On 26/11/2019 at 06:29, kev martin said:

Many up market night places wouldn't let you in in a pair of jeans.

Could have been because I didn't have much spending money, (frugal and going without). 

I really didn't care what you were wearing, more interested in who you are.

I couldn't afford to be in competition in a material sense.

Also happier to be sitting around at friends places talking and playing music, then joining the crowd of rejectors and wannabees. 

Funny Kev I grew up in a not too dissimilar way.

Entre fee was a bootle of cheap red or a couple of long necks, and a good natured attitude which enabled the group to discuss almost everything e.g. Should we be in Vietnam. Oh and it was compulsory to play at least one Beatles LP.

  On 26/11/2019 at 06:33, daisycutter said:

i don't remember actually. but then i was an early boomer. i do remember when brand names started to be displayed on clothing and how we all thought how crass that was, and that it was only suitable for marketing give-aways.

i also don't like the so called generation wars. it's all bs mostly and just creates unnecessary divisions 

Do you remember dc that they used to give away clothing with emblems on them as a promotion of the brand. Now you pay 3 times as much to wear someone's advertising.

It was a simpler time for us.

  On 26/11/2019 at 06:40, kev martin said:

It was a simpler time for us.

There are lots of things I miss ( like departed friends) but I don't want to go back. 

  On 26/11/2019 at 06:48, old dee said:

There are lots of things I miss ( like departed friends) but I don't want to go back. 

Agree, the times are so, so interesting.

The good, the bad and the inbetween. 

Jesus, memory lane, I have the advantage, being born in Liverpool and brought up by Liverpudlian parents

First thing you are taught, boomer or not, is not to give a flying [censored] what anyone thinks of you

As for the Boom by the players, think that is Neal Bullen again to blame for that     and no training and official function, only time I interact with players

So for you music lovers

Have seen in no particular order

Hendrix at the Isle of Wught

Beefheart at 4.00am in the morning 

Pink Floyd doing Dark Side of the Moon including aircraft coming over heads of audience and crashing on stage

First Australian gig Angels at Bondi Lifesavers

First Melbourne gig, Rose Tattoo, Pete Wells version, Bombay Rock

First Aussie Rules game, some Aussie friend, decided as I was used to English soccer crowds, took me to Vic Park to see Collingwood v Carlton in 1978, an eye opener to say the least????

 

Edited November 26, 20195 yr by Satyriconhome

Hendrix and Beefheart, what dreams are made of!

All that is needed is to sit around with Ginsberg, kerouac, Hunter, Baldwin and Burroughs.

Or Robbins, Vonnegut, O'Rourke, Toole, Wolfe, Hesse.

Would also love some Satre, Rouseau, Dostoevsky and Kafta (other generations).

Entertainment, the opium of the masses.

 

Edited November 26, 20195 yr by kev martin

  On 26/11/2019 at 05:54, kev martin said:

We all want to be loved and desired.

They have to do it within the electronic revolution.

Entitlement with aspiration, many are go getters.   

I question the small community romantic sense of belonging. 

You belong in those places if you have kids or take the alcohol at the public bar.

I think most of us are still searching to belong.

The angst of separation is universal.

Except with our playing group this year that wouldn’t spread. The angst of non separation was universal on dl.

  On 26/11/2019 at 06:54, Satyriconhome said:

First Aussie Rules game, some Aussie friend, decided as I was used to English soccer crowds, took me to Vic Park to see Collingwood v Carlton in 1978, an eye opener to say the least????

So your friend taught you to hate C'wood and Carlton in one fell swoop. A friend indeed.

  On 26/11/2019 at 07:00, kev martin said:

Hendrix and Beefheart, what dreams are made of!

All that is needed is to sit around with Ginsberg, kerouac, Hunter, Baldwin and Burroughs.

Or Robbins, Vonnegut, O'Rourke, Toole, Wolfe, Hesse.

Would also love some Satre, Rouseau, Dostoevsky and Kafta (other generations).

Entertainment, the opium of the masses.

 

Heller, Nietzsche got a gig in those days,  Henry Miller, and some Australians started reading Patrick White...

Then there were the Stones at Kooyong, and Sunbury...

Edited November 26, 20195 yr by dieter

  On 26/11/2019 at 08:21, dieter said:

Heller, Nietzsche got a gig in those days,  Henry Miller, and some Australians started reading Patrick White...

Miller and White, tough stuff. Talk about open minded, though quite patriarchal in perspective. 

Love Heller,  Nietschke I'm still wading through. 

I think if they really want to get into the heads of Boomers then it is PJ O'Rourke or wade through 'the factory', Warhol. 

Did Patrick White have some of his books censored?  Haven't really read much of his. So retract the tough stuff and patriarchal label. 

Edited November 26, 20195 yr by kev martin

  On 26/11/2019 at 07:44, Mazer Rackham said:

So your friend taught you to hate C'wood and Carlton in one fell swoop. A friend indeed.

I couldn't believe the Pies supporters spitting on the Carlton players as they came down the race

@kev martin   Liverpudlian remember, not a very high opinion of anything American at all

Spike Milligan,  Dennis Potter, Tom Stoppard, John Betjeman, Ivor Cutler

  On 26/11/2019 at 08:34, Satyriconhome said:

I couldn't believe the Pies supporters spitting on the Carlton players as they came down the race

@kev martin   Liverpudlian remember, not a very high opinion of anything American at all

Spike Milligan,  Dennis Potter, Tom Stoppard, John Betjeman, Ivor Cutler

I sort Spike wuz a Irishman

  On 26/11/2019 at 08:34, Satyriconhome said:

I couldn't believe the Pies supporters spitting on the Carlton players as they came down the race

@kev martin   Liverpudlian remember, not a very high opinion of anything American at all

Spike Milligan,  Dennis Potter, Tom Stoppard, John Betjeman, Ivor Cutler

Yes, not much humour in my lot. Closest is the quirkyness of some.

Talk about Quirky, Milligan's name just makes me laugh. His part in my downfall. 

Edited November 26, 20195 yr by kev martin

Yes, I am probably more influenced by Americans and Central and eastern Europeans. 

Not much from Australia other than our impressionists painters and scientific endeavors.

There is probably lots I don't know about. I am bad about acknowledging those from Australia.  

Berlin and New York, I'm told were amazing.

Most British stuff for me is a bit funny. I've got a bit of a block in the old brain.

The country kicked my family out then some came here and got the tenures in the influential position within Australia. 

A bit like MFC. Wished we were better at developing the draft selections.

Edited November 26, 20195 yr by kev martin

  On 26/11/2019 at 09:00, kev martin said:

Yes, I am probably more influenced by Americans and Central and eastern Europeans. 

Not much from Australia other than our impressionists painters and scientific endeavors.

There is probably lots I don't know about. I am are bad about acknowledging those from Australia.  

Berlin and New York, I'm told were amazing.

Most British stuff for me is a bit funny. I've got a bit of a block in the old brain.

The country kicked my family out then some came here and got the tenures in the influential position within Australia. 

A bit like MFC. Wished we were better at developing the draft selections.

I think you need a holiday Kev - i can no longer comprehend your training reports

Worst training thread ever!

  On 26/11/2019 at 09:10, Neil Crompton said:

I think you need a holiday Kev - i can no longer comprehend your training reports

I think your right!

Got caught up in the boom.

Edited November 26, 20195 yr by kev martin

  On 26/11/2019 at 09:10, Cards13 said:

Worst training thread ever!

What you don't realise is to stop training threads being derailed, the reporters have developed a secret code to discuss the training with a select few who have been given the key

To obtain this key you must at least attempt to do the following

Grow your hair to at least collar length, if unfortunately you are one of those afflicted with early onset balding, you need to shave your head

After a few drinks, promise never to sing along hoarsely to 'Working Class Man' with that faux Scotsman Barnes ever again

To own at least one shirt that is patterned like the chintz curtains your Gran used to have

  On 26/11/2019 at 09:00, kev martin said:

Yes, I am probably more influenced by Americans and Central and eastern Europeans. 

Not much from Australia other than our impressionists painters and scientific endeavors.

There is probably lots I don't know about. I am bad about acknowledging those from Australia.  

Berlin and New York, I'm told were amazing.

Most British stuff for me is a bit funny. I've got a bit of a block in the old brain.

The country kicked my family out then some came here and got the tenures in the influential position within Australia. 

A bit like MFC. Wished we were better at developing the draft selections.

Kev, after your holiday visit the Grainger museum at the Uni in Parkville, reckon he was an unacknowledged MFC support coz he was into self flagellation

  On 26/11/2019 at 02:28, durango said:

You also realise baby boomers saw 6 premierships to the others none.

It’s actually 7.

  On 25/11/2019 at 09:24, Josh said:

Agreed, weid building a frame like Tomahawk, took him a few years to get coming, could be a similar player?

If only ... one can but dream (Weed = Tomohawk)

  On 25/11/2019 at 23:23, dworship said:

A person from the baby boomer generation or really anyone who is older than the person using the word, usually used if said person is being annoying or talking shiet about a younger generation. Sometimes used in a joking way among friends. 

The Baby Boom generation is most often defined as those individuals born between 1946 and 1964.

Many of the individuals on here born in that era would also identify a "Boomer" as a large male Kangaroo. A number of AFL players have answered to that nickname.

 

  On 26/11/2019 at 02:28, durango said:

You also realise baby boomers saw 6 premierships to the others none.

I think that is actually 7.  
48,55,56,57,59,60,64

???????

  On 26/11/2019 at 06:48, old dee said:

There are lots of things I miss ( like departed friends) but I don't want to go back. 

The features of that era I miss are Red n Blue premierships. 

Edited November 26, 20195 yr by monoccular

  On 26/11/2019 at 09:52, Satyriconhome said:

Kev, after your holiday visit the Grainger museum at the Uni in Parkville, reckon he was an unacknowledged MFC support coz he was into self flagellation

Aye yes, laughing. 

No pain, no gain, the sins of the past, in suffering we unite.

As the Shia ashura, or the matryed saints, we carry Norm, Barassi and the board.

Till the curse is broken we hurt.

Edited November 26, 20195 yr by kev martin

Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.

 

  On 26/11/2019 at 09:47, Satyriconhome said:

What you don't realise is to stop training threads being derailed, the reporters have developed a secret code to discuss the training with a select few who have been given the key

To obtain this key you must at least attempt to do the following

Grow your hair to at least collar length, if unfortunately you are one of those afflicted with early onset balding, you need to shave your head

After a few drinks, promise never to sing along hoarsely to 'Working Class Man' with that faux Scotsman Barnes ever again

To own at least one shirt that is patterned like the chintz curtains your Gran used to have

Hurry up round 1.