21 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Out currently having a coffee with some of the under 16's Murray Bushrangers development coaches to start planning for our up coming pre season.

Just got told that Demon recruiting officials are up in the North East Border and Golburn Valley region to interview a couple of bushies boys.

Lachlan Ash will most likely one of them and along side Ben Kelly and Cam Wild.

What are your thoughts on Ben Kelly as a prospect for us?

On 11/16/2019 at 9:47 AM, dazzledavey36 said:

Out currently having a coffee with some of the under 16's Murray Bushrangers development coaches to start planning for our up coming pre season.

Just got told that Demon recruiting officials are up in the North East Border and Golburn Valley region to interview a couple of bushies boys.

Lachlan Ash will most likely one of them and along side Ben Kelly and Cam Wild.

Ash would be a sensational pick up imho.  One of the best line breaker come ball users off HB along with Gould.   Anderson obviously the pick of the three but no chance for us.

Neither quite at the level of Young by foot over short / medium & long range and probably by hand either but still in their own rights very solid users.  Ashes read of the play and run would worry many opps even at this early stage i reckon.  A few years in the system and could be something very special.

Gould and Ash very courageous in the air also.

On 11/16/2019 at 9:47 AM, dazzledavey36 said:

Out currently having a coffee with some of the under 16's Murray Bushrangers development coaches to start planning for our up coming pre season.

Just got told that Demon recruiting officials are up in the North East Border and Golburn Valley region to interview a couple of bushies boys.

Lachlan Ash will most likely one of them and along side Ben Kelly and Cam Wild.

To me this suggest we might not be taking Young. I don't think we would take both Young and Ash.

2 hours ago, Dees247 said:

To me this suggest we might not be taking Young. I don't think we would take both Young and Ash.

Agree, it sounds more like a scenario where we take Jackson @ 3 and Ash @ 8.

 

8 hours ago, TRIGON said:

What are your thoughts on Ben Kelly as a prospect for us?

He's a 200cm defender who came back as an overage and was told to work on his intercept marking and offensive attributes by AFL clubs as he is quite quick for his size, but wasn't using it as much as he should have out on the footy field.

He'd be a good prospect for us because he can also swing into the ruck if need be but also take the big talls like McKay or Lynch who are around that 202cm marking forward. Good prototype defender.

2 hours ago, Dees247 said:

To me this suggest we might not be taking Young. I don't think we would take both Young and Ash.

No not at all.

Since draft camp, Melbourne are having multiple interview with prospects like Young, Jackson, Ash and Robertson.

It's not like Ash is out of the ordinary. Club is just getting all their formation in check now and doing their due diligence with a few draft prospects.

8 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Agree, it sounds more like a scenario where we take Jackson @ 3 and Ash @ 8.

 

Again, Melbourne are YET to make a decision at 3 and 8. Just doing what all clubs do around this time and just chase up more information and background checks.

You blokes are reading way too much into this.

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Again, Melbourne are YET to make a decision at 3 and 8. Just doing what all clubs do around this time and just chase up more information and background checks.

You blokes are reading way too much into this.

I believe you that we may be reading way too much into this, but how can you personally be sure that we haven't made a decision at 3 or 8 already?

3 minutes ago, Dees247 said:

I believe you that we may be reading way too much into this, but how can you personally be sure that we haven't made a decision at 3 or 8 already?

Because we are still 2 weeks away. Don't you think that is a bit extreme and silly to have  made your decision when the player you may want at 8 might not even be there.

I do know for a fact most clubs who are in the first round usually don't make their final decision until at least 48 hours until draft night.

Edited November 17, 20195 yr by dazzledavey36

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Again, Melbourne are YET to make a decision at 3 and 8. Just doing what all clubs do around this time and just chase up more information and background checks.

You blokes are reading way too much into this.

I just don't think that, with 10 days till the draft, you can state that there is no chance that we have locked in who we want at 3. It is possible, that's all I'm saying.

Edited November 17, 20195 yr by Dees247

2 minutes ago, Dees247 said:

I just don't think that, with 10 days till the draft, you can state that there is no chance that we have locked in who we want at 3. It is possible, that's all I'm saying.

It's a close decision and they will take all the time required to finalise it.

There's more than just pick three involved, there are other contingencies to consider.

I would be very worried if they haven't made up their minds on who they are goning to pick?

33 minutes ago, Dees247 said:

I just don't think that, with 10 days till the draft, you can state that there is no chance that we have locked in who we want at 3. It is possible, that's all I'm saying.

If the decision is between Young and Jackson whats exactly the rush? A lot can still change in 10 days. The recruiting team along with Goodwin and Matthew Egan will sit down over these next few days and have a few meetings over this and do more extensive back ground checks on both boys.

They will also decide whether they do place the bid on Tom Green also? If they do then then that's Jackson and Young gone, and completely throws a spanner in the work in the 1st round, especially if GWS don't match the bid.

Trust me, club hasn't made their decision as of yet.

 

I think Ash's draft range is about 6-15 and given trading pick 3 is still not out of the question and trading pick 8 is a distinct possibility he's a good chance to be on our board at multiple stages. 

I don't think follow up post exams interviews or further time with the coaches should change a recruiters decision on pick 3, Jason Taylor surely has a preference. Even a Charlie Curnow drink driving shouldn't change a pick now - if character was a concern they wouldn't be an option, if character wasn't a concern you'd pick them anyway. But the realities of a trade and a Tom Green bid mean there has to be contingencies even with the first live pick of the draft. 

When it gets to pick 8 there's going to need to be about 10 different contingency plans. If we took pick 3 and were seriously considering the Cats trade of 8 for 14/17 I wouldn't be surprise if we met with about a dozen players between the end of the exams and the draft. A few for the top pick and then up to about 10 who could come in to consideration at 8/14/17. 

I agree DS and 247, we'd be pretty set on pick 3 now and have half a dozen plans in place at pick 8 because live pick trading.

The clubs need to have both a ranking and rating for each player to work out if they are willing to split or move up the board. This would be tinkered with up until the draft. 

9 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Ash would be a sensational pick up imho.  One of the best line breaker come ball users off HB along with Gould.   Anderson obviously the pick of the three but no chance for us.

Neither quite at the level of Young by foot over short / medium & long range and probably by hand either but still in their own rights very solid users.  Ashes read of the play and run would worry many opps even at this early stage i reckon.  A few years in the system and could be something very special.

Gould and Ash very courageous in the air also.

Ash has a couple of things we don't have.  He has the Leg speed, poise and spacial awareness to cut at the right time, drawing opponents to him as he delivers the ball.  Taking important metres with pace, and setting up forwards.

He can also play wing and IMO, could play small forward flank, with these qualities.  I think he could become a dangerous half forward.

Edited November 17, 20195 yr by MyFavouriteMartian

8 hours ago, MyFavouriteMartian said:

Ash has a couple of things we don't have.  He has the Leg speed, poise and spacial awareness to cut at the right time, drawing opponents to him as he delivers the ball.  Taking important metres with pace, and setting up forwards.

He can also play wing and IMO, could play small forward flank, with these qualities.  I think he could become a dangerous half forward.

A bit like an Aussie Rules version of a running back MFM.  Will be exciting to watch wherever he ends up.