Demons Grand Plan for Yarra Park Training HQ

[drysdale demon 4,695]

12 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

Pert will have us positioned somewhere between Melbourne and Perth.

Dud.

Why does he go on triple m and talk about our game plan? He was removed from Collingwood for having too much involvement with the football department. 

He should be getting us the football facilities we need as CEO. Needs to learn his position.

He certainly wasn't a dud as a player. He would not have lasted 11 years at Collingwood as CEO if he was a dud, during that time they were successful on and off the field.I'm quite sure he he is well aware of his position at the MFC. Who do you think you are suggesting someone needs to learn their position.

[Sorry kids 635]

7 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Building over the rail lines would be $$$ but probably the most logical choice. All of that space that could be utilised and the NIMBYS wouldn’t be able to do a thing about it. It would simply add to the MCG sporting precinct.

Government land so need approvals.The Andrews Gov is against the plan.

[daisycutter 29,336]

2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

you win dc?

My original point was we won't be moving the club to Casey as (several hundred) admin staff (who live in all parts of Melbourne and often rely on public transport) would be more affected than players.  Still think that, even if it takes players an hour several times a week to get there.   Casey is not an option for a whole of club venue.

this i agree with. but i would like to know what the dorks will be doing at berwick. even though berwick is a little bit closer it is still a long trip and only getting worse  

[old dee 23,494]

1 hour ago, Sorry kids said:

Government land so need approvals.The Andrews Gov is against the plan.

Correct I would add all parties are against the plan. Also interesting that the MCC have never to my knowledge said anything about the plan.

[old dee 23,494]

Just now, daisycutter said:

this i agree with. but i would like to know what the dorks will be doing at berwick. even though berwick is a little bit closer it is still a long trip and only getting worse  

Dc aren't  they at Dingley?

[daisycutter 29,336]

1 minute ago, old dee said:

Dc aren't  they at Dingley?

haha yes. don't know why i said berwick. seniors brain fart

[old dee 23,494]

Just now, daisycutter said:

haha yes. don't know why i said berwick. seniors brain fart

What annoys me about our indecision is that the Hawks will build at Dingley and quickly become the favourite of that whole area of the metro area and the Dees  will still be dreaming of a home near the G.

[daisycutter 29,336]

1 minute ago, old dee said:

What annoys me about our indecision is that the Hawks will build at Dingley and quickly become the favourite of that whole area of the metro area and the Dees  will still be dreaming of a home near the G.

success on the field over a long time gives them advantages we don't have

they can play lots of home games in tassie and move the club to the boondocks and still the members keep climbing.......just because they are guaranteed winners

[old dee 23,494]

1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

success on the field over a long time gives them advantages we don't have

they can play lots of home games in tassie and move the club to the boondocks and still the members keep climbing.......just because they are guaranteed winners

Could not agree more.

Our indecision over half a century dc has us in our current position I.e. No flags and no home.

Will We ever make a decision and go with it 100%?

[daisycutter 29,336]

1 hour ago, old dee said:

Could not agree more.

Our indecision over half a century dc has us in our current position I.e. No flags and no home.

Will We ever make a decision and go with it 100%?

not if we continue as we have, od

[rjay 24,604]

10 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Building over the rail lines would be $$$ but probably the most logical choice. All of that space that could be utilised and the NIMBYS wouldn’t be able to do a thing about it. It would simply add to the MCG sporting precinct.

 

3 hours ago, Sorry kids said:

Government land so need approvals.The Andrews Gov is against the plan.

I think the poster meant the rail yards between the 'G' and the tennis centre.

I don't think Andrews has an opinion on this let alone being against it...

[Sir Why You Little 36,638]

12 hours ago, old dee said:

I keep asking where?

Serious Research needs to be undertaken. 

Gotta spend money to make money

This is what Gutnick did not do

[Diamond_Jim 12,359]

23 minutes ago, rjay said:

 

I think the poster meant the rail yards between the 'G' and the tennis centre.

I don't think Andrews has an opinion on this let alone being against it...

Covering the railyards has been the mythical solution for so long it's akin to finding the North West Passage.

To suggest that a Government would allow the significant rail disruption for a football club admin centre is just not on.

It would need to be part of something much bigger and it would be twenty years in the making.

If you want a left field solution how about an underground cut and cover facility in Yarra Park. Would probably fail due to the above ground trees but that's the kind of thing... and it needs to be green with cutting edge community benefits etc etc

[old dee 23,494]

9 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Serious Research needs to be undertaken. 

Gotta spend money to make money

This is what Gutnick did not do

Under PJ's reign it was done, they spent over $100k on a study of everything within 10 km of the G.

result nothing was of suitable size.

That is what hatched the Yarra park dream. 

The simple fact is there is no land available in inner melbourne except for the docklands.

IMO it is the docklands or outer surburbs.

[old dee 23,494]

34 minutes ago, rjay said:

 

I think the poster meant the rail yards between the 'G' and the tennis centre.

I don't think Andrews has an opinion on this let alone being against it...

That would make the Hawks plan at Dingley look cheap at $100 million.

[Sir Why You Little 36,638]

28 minutes ago, old dee said:

Under PJ's reign it was done, they spent over $100k on a study of everything within 10 km of the G.

result nothing was of suitable size.

That is what hatched the Yarra park dream. 

The simple fact is there is no land available in inner melbourne except for the docklands.

IMO it is the docklands or outer surburbs.

Yes that is your opinion. We all know it

But everything has a price, if we want to build near the ‘G it will cost $$$’s. 

You want an answer tomorrow, but i am prepared to be patient to find the right place

[old dee 23,494]

31 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Yes that is your opinion. We all know it

But everything has a price, if we want to build near the ‘G it will cost $$$’s. 

You want an answer tomorrow, but i am prepared to be patient to find the right place

Good luck. 

[DV8 2,271]

14 hours ago, PaulRB said:

Ideal spot is over the train lines to the west of the MCG..? 

12 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Building over the rail lines would be $$$ but probably the most logical choice. All of that space that could be utilised and the NIMBYS wouldn’t be able to do a thing about it. It would simply add to the MCG sporting precinct.

no station next door.

[old dee 23,494]

14 minutes ago, DV8 said:

no station next door.

Why is that a problem DV8?

The players, staff and FD won't be arriving by train and it is no further than current from train stations. The members will only be there very occasionally if ever.

[Wrecker45 3,378]

6 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

He certainly wasn't a dud as a player. He would not have lasted 11 years at Collingwood as CEO if he was a dud, during that time they were successful on and off the field.I'm quite sure he he is well aware of his position at the MFC. Who do you think you are suggesting someone needs to learn their position.

Do you think the CEO should be involved in the game plan?

[Sir Why You Little 36,638]

1 hour ago, old dee said:

Good luck. 

Pert said it was a long term project. That is exactly what i expect it to be. 

You gave up years ago

[old dee 23,494]

19 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Pert said it was a long term project. That is exactly what i expect it to be. 

You gave up years ago

On that time table I will be in the ground before the first aid is turned. As I said good luck.

[DV8 2,271]

1 hour ago, old dee said:

Why is that a problem DV8?

The players, staff and FD won't be arriving by train and it is no further than current from train stations. The members will only be there very occasionally if ever.

Having our own home base is most important for our supporters connection to the club/team.  this is why a home base is SO important. 

This is what grows a club and produces fan loyalty and the connection between players and fans and the kids.

this is what keeps the players feet on the ground, "earthed".

When the team/players win,  they spread the  joy at the club and receive it back from the supporters. promoting energy for all.  When the players are on a losing trot,  the emotions they receive from fawning kiddies helps to lift them from wallowing in self pity.

 

All in all its a natural healthy interaction between players with plenty,  and supporters with little...  It helps to address any imbalances in players focus.  Maintaining a Communal feel.

Gives them something tangible to fight for (others less fortunate),   rather then a self-driven exercise.   If your getting beaten up on, sometimes its easier to backaway,  than to keep on fighting...  but when your fighting for someone else's welfare,  it becomes a whole different scene.  especially for kiddies and for the more vulnerable.

 

This is what the club has missed since the 60's.

... that communal feel of fighting for a higher reason.    $$$$ just don't cut it... without that emotional charge to get through the highs and the Lows... and to keep on going when others give up.

[daisycutter 29,336]

1 hour ago, DV8 said:

no station next door.

huh? jolimont couldn't be more than 5 mins walk max. even flinders st station would just be a stroll

[DV8 2,271]

7 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

huh? jolimont couldn't be more than 5 mins walk max.

You want the station adjoining the building...  to get those who are in-between, should i go home now (from work)...  or should I drop in to the club, same on match-days.  before and after.

Every little bit helps,  'dc'.

Do you drive to games,  or taxi,  or tram ???

7 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

even flinders st station would just be a stroll

...  now what about the people who are carrying stuff from the game and with kids,  who have to jump on a train and get to say, Pakenham, or Seymour...  Or uncle bitters with his handbag full of makeup and trinkets,  who has to get to Romsey ?

 

Edited May 10, 2019 by DV8