Marty Hore and Jay Lockhart

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

On 5/6/2019 at 2:06 PM, hemingway said:

Agree, 

If selectors think that a player is good enough to get a game in the ones, then the player should be given a number of consecutive games to prove their worth. At least a minimum of 2 games and maybe 3 or 4.  Totally opposed to selecting a player for their first game and dropping them a week later.  It damages the players confidence and almost says'to everyone that the player should not have been selected in the first place. Sure there are players who put in a shocker in their first game, but that normally tells you that the player should not have been selected in the first place. Petty is an example.  

Spot on. Roosy used to play them for two games even if they were a ghost in the first.

[Rob Mac...... 638]

Lockhart’s going well, but a few very bad disposals by foot and hand cost us. 

[IvanBartul13 2,564]

7 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Lol.. rich coming from you mate where you throw all these sub VFL standard players in every trade period.

 

Agree biggest time waster on Demonland.  Does not have a clue!

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10 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

  Neither are naturally gifted.

I disagree.  Lockhart is a very natural footballer.  Hore reads the ball in the air as well as any we have on the list.

Both have some physical limitations but both are natural footballers.

[dazzledavey36 55,855]

11 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Battlers by my intentions was players not versed with natural skills but they battle on.  Big hearts.  Battle on.  Key going despite adversity.  Neither are naturally gifted.  

Petracca and a few more could learn from them about the struggle to realise your dream and then finally have it.   I was a fan of them both as VFL Players.  So DD LOL you caveman. 

Rubbish

[Moonshadow 17,678]

What the hell does "not naturally gifted" even mean?

Does it mean that they aren't as good as other footballers on our list? Of course they're not.

Is it that they weren't high draft picks?

Or that they don't look as classy as Oliver or Salem?

I'd say they are excellent role players who are still developing.  They'll never be stars, but they are already showing some good value to the team. 

Happy with that. 

[Ethan Tremblay 31,243]

24 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

What the hell does "not naturally gifted" even mean?

I was about to ask the same thing, I’m not even sure what it means. Is Dangerfield naturally gifted or does he rely on his size and burst speed? Because he’s a very average field kick. 

[What 18,810]

53 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Rubbish

Rubbish indeed DD.  Maybe SONS would like us to get in some more naturally gifted players like Morton, Watts and Toumpas. 

Hore and Lockhart are going beautifully.

[spirit of norm smith 16,615]

That’s my opinion.  Plenty of trolls on here ready to shoot you down for an opinion. Both Lockhart and Hore have had to work hard to get into AFL and it shows in how they play.

My point is plenty of low draft picks seem to be naturally talented (yes like Morton, Toumpas and Petracca even) but their work rate.  

Hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work hard.  

[Ugottobekidding 1,242]

On 5/6/2019 at 2:24 PM, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Couldn't find a spot for Salem?

Id have salem before Frost

[Ugottobekidding 1,242]

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

That’s my opinion.  Plenty of trolls on here ready to shoot you down for an opinion. Both Lockhart and Hore have had to work hard to get into AFL and it shows in how they play.

My point is plenty of low draft picks seem to be naturally talented (yes like Morton, Toumpas and Petracca even) but their work rate.  

Hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work hard.  

To be fair... tracs has been playing ok the last two games... been a bit more pressure in his game. I get the feeling that trac has taken over from Watts.

[dimmy 1,308]

18 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Wonderful goal that really capped Hore’s rapid improvement in disposal since round 1. Sticking his tackles too. Well done.

Lockhart just does some real footballer things - holds some good marks, bursts from packs, reads the bouce of the ball. A bit down from last week and he has to hit more targets to do more damage but he’s such a change from the rest of our battlers who usually get the half forward jobs.

It is good to see a couple of "neglected"players bob up and are starting to adjust to the tempo. THey both seem to be learning each week. Locckart's last couple of weeks have  been more productive in that he is gaining confidence and getting more of the ball. Marty Hore seems to be able to read the play and be in the right position a lot of the time. Great to see.

[TGR 1,367]

Hore seemed happy with himself after slotting through the winner.

Edited May 13, 2019 by TGR

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On 5/12/2019 at 12:52 PM, Ugottobekidding said:

To be fair... tracs has been playing ok the last two games... been a bit more pressure in his game. I get the feeling that trac has taken over from Watts.

Think some people on here are missing the huge amount of work Trac has been doing on the inside.

[Redleg 41,934]

On 5/12/2019 at 9:33 AM, Moonshadow said:

What the hell does "not naturally gifted" even mean?

Does it mean that they aren't as good as other footballers on our list? Of course they're not.

Is it that they weren't high draft picks?

Or that they don't look as classy as Oliver or Salem?

I'd say they are excellent role players who are still developing.  They'll never be stars, but they are already showing some good value to the team. 

Happy with that. 

Me too.

If we can develop the young blokes we drafted this year, I'd be happy with that too.

If we can draft and trade in some more skill and pace, I'd be happy with that too.

If we can reduce our injury list and get the blokes we need back on the park, I'd be happy with that too.

If we can stop fumbling and learn to pass to our forwards, not their opponents, I'd be happy with that too.

You can see it doesn't take much to make me happy.

Edited May 13, 2019 by Redleg

[Redleg 41,934]

2 hours ago, TGR said:

Hore seemed happy with himself after slotting through the winner.

Thanks Raymond.