Post Game: Rd 5 v St. Kilda

[Wiseblood 24,637]

1 minute ago, Radar Detector said:

First Easter Bunny egg hunt for my son tomorrow. Puts things in perspective. 

I relate to indifference. 

You can't beat it.

How can I possibly let the outcome of the game affect the wonder and excitement that she will have in the morning when she sees the eggs on her little table?  Simple answer is that it won't.  The Dees won't factor into a thing tomorrow.  

I hope your son enjoys the Easter Egg hunt in the morning!

[Earl Hood 6,143]

27 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Yep....its the law of angry traded player that dictates they play a blinder against the club that traded them. Kent has a big heart but too m any injuries. Although Lever and May have had issues too. Lets face it....its a bloody crap shoot.

That reminds me of Brian Wilson kicking 6 against us in 91 and they beat us by a few points. Don’t think he played another game. That said Kent asked for a trade for more opportunities. We did the right thing by him, not sure about our club. 

[DV8 2,271]

33 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

This thread is going to be full of absolute gold.

Yeah, starting with yourself.  You line the outhouse in your own gold, every time you go there, wise. It's always the others with you...  get a mirror.  

Actually, get some shiny stainless steel.  It'll last.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,451]

2 hours ago, bing181 said:

You wonder at what point you write off the season  - though for me, we'd partly written it off before it started with so many players having compromised preseasons due to elective surgeries. Perhaps time to start investing in players like Sparrow and Petty, and seeing where we are with players like Keilty.

Careful, with talk like that we'll be done for not tanking again

To be honest I'm still confident we have the list to win a flag (obviously some changes will occur as they do every year) this just seems like the down year we had to have (a la Cats 06, Tigers 16 etc). We've improved every year since 2013, it's extremely hard to just keep going up up up until you win the flag. Now obviously most didn't think it would go this bad but maybe it has to before rebounding next year.

I'm still confident we will be in contention for the flag in 2020 and for a few years after. I think we may be looking at a cleanout of the assistants though to rejuvenate the players and the gameplan.

[DV8 2,271]

22 minutes ago, dieter said:

I hate boats, can't swim. was trying to be friendly...

Pearls and Swine...  'dieter'.

[DV8 2,271]

32 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I know, but honestly. He was one player who had a bloody go today and it frustrates me when there’s about 15 targets well worth potting that people just resort to their usual go-tos whether it’s warranted or not.

no 15 !!!  play on.

Those who do not defend well.  all game.   those who cannot run all game.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Just now, Dr. Gonzo said:

Careful, with talk like that we'll be done for not tanking again

To be honest I'm still confident we have the list to win a flag (obviously some changes will occur as they do every year) this just seems like the down year we had to have (a la Cats 06, Tigers 16 etc). We've improved every year since 2013, it's extremely hard to just keep going up up up until you win the flag. Now obviously most didn't think it would go this bad but maybe it has to before rebounding next year.

I'm still confident we will be in contention for the flag in 2020 and for a few years after. I think we may be looking at a cleanout of the assistants though to rejuvenate the players and the gameplan.

Good post, Doc.

I also think, and this reflects badly on those assistant coaches and medicos and so forth, that we were totally unprepared for a shorter pre-season.  We sent plenty of players off for surgery and never recovered.  We aren't fit enough to run out games and we don't have the ticker to run and chase and do all the things that made us a great side last year.  We look two steps behind everyone, and I think a large part of that is down to having a nightmare of a pre-season.

I agree that we still have a list that can push for a flag, but something has to change.  I think having some fresh eyes, thoughts and ideas around the physios, how we train, get fit etc will be really good, and I also think a change or two with our assistant's wouldn't go astray either.

[DV8 2,271]

27 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

Petracca isn’t the problem.

The problem is our game plan, it’s already super ceded , and I fear the players may have lost a bit of faith in it.

When Brayshaw says after round two that the players aren’t buying in, then something is not quite right.

And how do you think petracca will go, in a running game  'DZ'.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,451]

2 hours ago, ICU2 Jerry Jerry said:

The problem with the club is that there is no club. We're nomads. We have no spiritual home to walk the halls of after training. No tangible history to embrace, forget the G . . . It's just where we play.  We're like a start up club trying to create something out of nothing. The 12 flags count for nought. We have no soul. The players, staff, coaches can all change but in the end we don't stand for anything and we aren't anywhere.  

That's reality

How do you take you're kid down to "the club"? There is no club

Every other club in the league has a club, their club not a temporary share arrangement with 2 other teams

[censored]

 

What crap. This wasn't an issue last year was it? Every time we lose or start a run of bad form this seems to get rolled out.

[leave it to deever 17,593]

No doubt  all of us are pizzed off...angry....confused and or frustrated. We are trying to come to terms with the reality that last year seems to have been a false dawn.

Yea theres no point mentioning how long its been but it sure is infuriating when so many players  presented in the media about how good 2019 will be.

Maybe they really believed  it. 

Cant lump them altogether but look at the new kid Hore who put his body on the line today. Gameplan aside....there are mnny senior players that just dont have the passion this year.  

[Ungarie boy 233]

We play scared, we'll handball at the hint of a shadow; normally to someone who is to lazy to move away from their opponent. 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

BEST 22 WAYS YOU CAN DROWN YOUR SORROWS:

B:  RUM,  WHISKEY, VODKA

HB:  LIGHT BEER, RED WINE, GIN

C  SCOTCH, BOURBON, MID STRENGTH BEER

HF:  WHITE WINE, BEER, MOSCATO

FF:  UDL, PORT, JAGERMEISTER

R:  LEMON RUSKI, PALE ALE, STOUT

BENCH:  OUZO, MIDORI, BACARDI, BAILEYS

[DV8 2,271]

2 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

No doubt  all of us are pizzed off...angry....confused and or frustrated. We are trying to come to terms with the reality that last year seems to have been a false dawn.

Yea theres no point mentioning how long its been but it sure is infuriating when so many players  presented in the media about how good 2019 will be.

Maybe they really believed  it. 

Cant lump them altogether but look at the new kid Hore who put his body on the line today. Gameplan aside....there are mnny senior players that just dont have the passion this year.  

Its a Murphy's season. 2019.

[DeeZee 7,445]

4 minutes ago, DV8 said:

And how do you think petracca will go, in a running game  'DZ'.

How will Clarry go?

How will Jetta go?

how will Jones go?

How will Viney go DV8?

[Jaded No More 68,975]

41 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Fair suck of the sav. Petracca close to the 6 DL POTY votes IMO, if I could be bothered voting. 

His kicking, not just for goal, is very ordinary. That after 6 (?) years in the system he still hasn’t got the tank to play midfield is also a real letdown. Imagine him on the wing instead of Lewis *groan*

34 minutes ago, Vineytime said:

Heard May speak in the Lindsay Hassat room this afternoon, club doesn’t know what is actually wrong with his groin, nothing showed up in scan...

I got the feeling he could be out for a while. 

Superb. What an absolute fail. 

 

I just can’t believe (or can I?) that it’s season over in round 5. Again. How is this possible? 

Our coaching and structures are deplorable. Goodwin seems completely lost and his players don’t look much better. Who came up with the idiotic idea of playing Lewis on the wing? Our backline is crumbling and Lewis is playing wing? 

Salem is the only player this year who has improved. The rest have gone backwards to the point where some of them should not be playing. Hibbo and TMac at the top of that list. Combine that with a good handful of very ordinary list fillers currently covering for May, AVB, Lever and May and you have the sort of embarrassing performance we have seen so far this season.   

Goodwin has never been someone I felt confidence in and I maintain he should not have got an extension so early. He has to work out things and do it fast because this club cannot survive another 4 years of losing. 

[deebug 1,754]

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

BEST 22 WAYS YOU CAN DROWN YOUR SORROWS:

B:  RUM,  WHISKEY, VODKA

HB:  LIGHT BEER, RED WINE, GIN

C  SCOTCH, BOURBON, MID STRENGTH BEER

HF:  WHITE WINE, BEER, MOSCATO

FF:  UDL, PORT, JAGERMEISTER

R:  LEMON RUSKI, PALE ALE, STOUT

BENCH:  OUZO, MIDORI, BACARDI, BAILEYS

Now that's a team.

[leave it to deever 17,593]

15 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

That reminds me of Brian Wilson kicking 6 against us in 91 and they beat us by a few points. Don’t think he played another game. That said Kent asked for a trade for more opportunities. We did the right thing by him, not sure about our club. 

Even Watts played well in round one.

[Cards13 9,117]

1 hour ago, DeeZee said:

I’d pay Weideman 700k a year.

Doesnt mark or kick goals, but his second efforts are good.

I’m on record on here of being bullish on Weid and still think he will be a good player. In saying that ffs he runs under the ball at almost ever opportunity and then seems to just finger tip marking opps. 

Maybe he needs OPSM?

[bing181 9,425]

8 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

this reflects badly on those assistant coaches and medicos and so forth, that we were totally unprepared for a shorter pre-season.  We sent plenty of players off for surgery and never recovered. 

Or were they? I would suggest that internally, we knew the risks that we were taking, but went ahead now anyway, on the assumption (correct in my view) that this was never going to be our year for a flag, but next year might be.

[Nasher 33,617]

7 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

What crap. This wasn't an issue last year was it? Every time we lose or start a run of bad form this seems to get rolled out.

Oddly enough, those rambling posts that always make out that the club is rotten to the core always make me feel a little bit better. I would hate to be so damaged that every time we went off track that it felt like it was just part of some huge, insurmountable problem spanning decades. It’s not. If it was, I’d probably have given up long ago. It’s just this year’s problem.

[Laughing Goat 308]

oh dear!

Our 2 Inclusions this week in Lewis & Jetta both had ZERO tackles.

that doesn't sound good to me......

 

[Wrecker45 3,378]

2 hours ago, Beetle said:

They weren’t even trying. Something stinks at the club.

Pert.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

1 minute ago, bing181 said:

Or were they? I would suggest that internally, we knew the risks that we were taking, but went ahead now anyway, on the assumption (correct in my view) that this was never going to be our year for a flag, but next year might be.

And you may well be right, bing.  If that was the case then the club can't exactly be forthcoming with the information, but I still firmly believe our list is more than strong enough to challenge for a flag in the coming years.  These results don't change that.

[Nasher 33,617]

1 minute ago, Laughing Goat said:

oh dear!

Our 2 Inclusions this week in Lewis & Jetta both had ZERO tackles.

that doesn't sound good to me......

 

Is Jetta right? He got up a couple of times holding the knee that was strapped up and looked very ginger. Looks a long way off fit to me. 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,451]

1 hour ago, Clintosaurus said:

If it was then the rest of the game pans out differently. If Melk was paid the obvious one against the Bummers we would have been 20 up and probably win. The ones not paid have a greater impact on the result and we are not being paid them.  

Why? If the AFL was rigging games we would be on the beneficial end, they want us (and Saints, GWS) to win a flag. It doesn't make sense other than the typical supporters think they're getting a bad run from the umpires.