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On 3/24/2019 at 3:31 PM, rjay said:

You're right 'Goody', it's no reason to overreact but that's now 4 poor games in a row.

That's a trend.

I think we can now put some things into perspective and act to fix what we can.

From my post after the JLT games...

"A lot of people wanting to put things into perspective from my readings....

...so here's my perspective.

We're not good enough to cruise through preseason games just yet...if these games are meant to tweak the game plan and fine tune for the first game then heaven help us.

That was a dogs breakfast.

No amount of perspective can change that."

In another post earlier in the year I also said that our continued improvement will be harder this year.

We've been on a steady upward climb and logic would see us drop off a bit somewhere.

Is this the year we drop back a bit? do we miss finals?

A bit early to call but on the evidence of the last 4 games we've got work to do.

I think our list is overrated by the media and of course us fans...there are holes and I'm sure the FD know this.

We lack quality small forwards, Jeffy is the only class one we have and he's super flakey...

Spargo is not up to it yet and I don't think he has the tricks to ever be. At his size he needs them big time.

ANB can fill a role but at the moment that's what all our small forwards are trying to do...he must hit the scoreboard to hold his place.

We had Sparrow in there yesterday for his first game and at least he put some pressure on but he's not a small forward.

Hunt's been tried but he's not one either.

So our small forwards are about pressure but none bring scoreboard pressure except Jeffy at times.

Our defence..Frost, should have been delisted.

Omac...the experiment is over. Time to put development into Petty alongside May & Lever.

Hibberd hasn't been the player he was in 2017, he's drifting by and not working anywhere near hard enough.

We miss Lever big time but I think we overpaid for him, one of those draft kids running around now adding a bit of class could have been handy.

Tommy Mac worries me, he's had a good season as a forward but has been very average as of late.

History shows he had a really good season and a bit as a defender then dropped off dramatically.

Let's hope it's just an aberration and he's up and firing again soon but the trend is remarkably similar.

Is Tommy getting ahead of himself or have the opposition worked him?

A big call but maybe Tommy could do with some Casey time with his brother.

Weid is a kid and he will get a bit more time. Expect him to be up and down but he needs to work harder when down.

Trac...undecided on him. I get the feeling he will never be the player we wanted but still be a good player. Just not a great one.

It's time to deliver young Trac, no more teasing.

The mids are a good group but they are believing their own publicity.

Thanks Gary Lyon, we all know Oliver is a star but he doesn't need to drink his own bathwater and he has recently.

Time for them to grow up and also time for Max to focus on his game, he's being pushed around too easily.

You're a big boy Max and you don't need everyone to like you.

Outside run, yeah we all know that. KK may provide some if he gets back to early career form but there's no guarantee there.

Being out of the early picks in the last 2 drafts has hurt and we need to pick some more talent.

Fritsch is class but is only a fringe player at the moment so he needs to give us more this year.

A side note to yesterday...they were up and about.

Did anyone notice how many players ran to Sparrow when he kicked his first AFL goal in his first game? not enough for my liking.

We weren't up for it.

So the question remains...the writing was on the wall for yesterdays game. Is it on the wall going forward?

Will we drop off this year?

 

 

 

Interesting how this thread has gone quiet in the light of the Geelong debacle and the consequential occupancy of 18th position on the ladder. The harsh reality has hit home hard presumably. A top tier of stars and very ordinary 'c graders' underneath them. Outside of Lever and the Van . . . there's really not much improvement available outside the current 22. Many tried and failed and the end is coming quick of one in particular. Back to the draft for us and trade out a top five pick for Josh Kelly and a 'b grader'. The benefit of 2019 . . . which is considerable . . . is getting games into Tracktor, The Weed and one or two others who have 200 games stamped all over them. Getting a premiership outta this lot of 'a graders' is still well and truly on the radar . . . it's just going to happen a lot slower than many pundits realise. 

 

 
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2 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

A top tier of stars and very ordinary 'c graders' underneath them. Outside of Lever and the Van . . .

That's the story 'Queanbeyan'...

We have a few 'B' graders but they drop away to 'C' and 'D' graders very quickly

Probably Harmes, Salem, Viney & Melk are the B's. Tommy Mac a 'B' if being kind but playing like a 'D' grader at the moment.

Stars are Oliver, Max and probably Brayshaw on the cusp.

We don't have one 'A' grade forward and our 2 'A' grade defenders are injured.

Trac looks like being an ok player, maybe a 'B' but has this year to turn it on if he's going to be the star he promised to be otherwise it's not going to happen.

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Not overreacting Goody and good fans.

...but that's 6 in a row.

The Prelim, 2 JLT games and 3 AFL games in 2019.

We've played like a dogs breakfast in each of them.

The writing is now on the wall.

Some domestic duties to take care of now but will come back to this later...

 
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Sorry' @Smokey' but our midfield are drinking their own bathwater....

They wouldn't know 2 way running if it bit them on the a......

Laziest, least effective midfield in the competition on recent form.

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On 3/24/2019 at 3:31 PM, rjay said:

You're right 'Goody', it's no reason to overreact but that's now 4 poor games in a row.

That's a trend.

I think we can now put some things into perspective and act to fix what we can.

From my post after the JLT games...

"A lot of people wanting to put things into perspective from my readings....

...so here's my perspective.

We're not good enough to cruise through preseason games just yet...if these games are meant to tweak the game plan and fine tune for the first game then heaven help us.

That was a dogs breakfast.

No amount of perspective can change that."

In another post earlier in the year I also said that our continued improvement will be harder this year.

We've been on a steady upward climb and logic would see us drop off a bit somewhere.

Is this the year we drop back a bit? do we miss finals?

A bit early to call but on the evidence of the last 4 games we've got work to do.

I think our list is overrated by the media and of course us fans...there are holes and I'm sure the FD know this.

We lack quality small forwards, Jeffy is the only class one we have and he's super flakey...

Spargo is not up to it yet and I don't think he has the tricks to ever be. At his size he needs them big time.

ANB can fill a role but at the moment that's what all our small forwards are trying to do...he must hit the scoreboard to hold his place.

We had Sparrow in there yesterday for his first game and at least he put some pressure on but he's not a small forward.

Hunt's been tried but he's not one either.

So our small forwards are about pressure but none bring scoreboard pressure except Jeffy at times.

Our defence..Frost, should have been delisted.

Omac...the experiment is over. Time to put development into Petty alongside May & Lever.

Hibberd hasn't been the player he was in 2017, he's drifting by and not working anywhere near hard enough.

We miss Lever big time but I think we overpaid for him, one of those draft kids running around now adding a bit of class could have been handy.

Tommy Mac worries me, he's had a good season as a forward but has been very average as of late.

History shows he had a really good season and a bit as a defender then dropped off dramatically.

Let's hope it's just an aberration and he's up and firing again soon but the trend is remarkably similar.

Is Tommy getting ahead of himself or have the opposition worked him?

A big call but maybe Tommy could do with some Casey time with his brother.

Weid is a kid and he will get a bit more time. Expect him to be up and down but he needs to work harder when down.

Trac...undecided on him. I get the feeling he will never be the player we wanted but still be a good player. Just not a great one.

It's time to deliver young Trac, no more teasing.

The mids are a good group but they are believing their own publicity.

Thanks Gary Lyon, we all know Oliver is a star but he doesn't need to drink his own bathwater and he has recently.

Time for them to grow up and also time for Max to focus on his game, he's being pushed around too easily.

You're a big boy Max and you don't need everyone to like you.

Outside run, yeah we all know that. KK may provide some if he gets back to early career form but there's no guarantee there.

Being out of the early picks in the last 2 drafts has hurt and we need to pick some more talent.

Fritsch is class but is only a fringe player at the moment so he needs to give us more this year.

A side note to yesterday...they were up and about.

Did anyone notice how many players ran to Sparrow when he kicked his first AFL goal in his first game? not enough for my liking.

We weren't up for it.

So the question remains...the writing was on the wall for yesterdays game. Is it on the wall going forward?

Will we drop off this year?

 

 

 

 

Great post thats currently ageing like a fine wine.

Edited by Petraccattack


1 hour ago, rjay said:

Not overreacting Goody and good fans.

...but that's 6 in a row.

The Prelim, 2 JLT games and 3 AFL games in 2019.

We've played like a dogs breakfast in each of them.

The writing is now on the wall.

Some domestic duties to take care of now but will come back to this later...

I'm not sure the prelim is all that relevant, the best team in the comp ambushed us after a big couple of finals. There's some tactical things with teams hitting the 45 switch that the Eagles did very well and teams doubling up Gawn but really we were smashed in the midfield and not good enough elsewhere, which we knew all along.

I hope Goodwin and Co are disappointed but I also think they'd be pretty understanding of where the issues are right now.

A dominant midfield side has lost it's edge - none of Viney, Oliver or Brayshaw look fully up to speed with their work around the contest and particularly with their spread. Harmes looks like the only midfielder who is really covering the ground - both in close and when spread out.

The wingers are struggling even more and the forward line is a mess, with one of our most likely goal kickers being a back flanker added to the list only a few weeks ago.

All of that said I think the one big list improvement we made was Steve May and if he was fully fit and not suspended for rounds 1 and 3 we might be sitting at 2-1 on the ladder.

 

2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

I'm not sure the prelim is all that relevant, the best team in the comp ambushed us after a big couple of finals. There's some tactical things with teams hitting the 45 switch that the Eagles did very well and teams doubling up Gawn but really we were smashed in the midfield and not good enough elsewhere, which we knew all along.

I hope Goodwin and Co are disappointed but I also think they'd be pretty understanding of where the issues are right now.

A dominant midfield side has lost it's edge - none of Viney, Oliver or Brayshaw look fully up to speed with their work around the contest and particularly with their spread. Harmes looks like the only midfielder who is really covering the ground - both in close and when spread out.

The wingers are struggling even more and the forward line is a mess, with one of our most likely goal kickers being a back flanker added to the list only a few weeks ago.

All of that said I think the one big list improvement we made was Steve May and if he was fully fit and not suspended for rounds 1 and 3 we might be sitting at 2-1 on the ladder.

 

Yeah, pretty ridiculous to expect a 27 year old former captain to show up to a pre season in shape.

Combine his lack of fitness with Dave Misson and look what happens, despite the claims his last injury is unrelated, I find it pretty hard to trust any of their management given the Joel Smith saga.

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11 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

I'm not sure the prelim is all that relevant

It's very relevant, we haven't recovered from it and we haven't learnt from it...

 
48 minutes ago, rjay said:

It's very relevant, we haven't recovered from it and we haven't learnt from it...

I think it was always a case of deciding whether we'd continue to back in our system (and that maybe we just had an off day in the Prelim) or it was about making some tweaks to the system to ensure that the control style wouldn't win out against us. Unfortunately, it seems we haven't made any adjustments and that's pretty incredible when you think of what the FD are paid and the professionalism required in the AFL. 

It was interesting seeing even Essendon try the control style / keepings off a bit tonight and actually, usually it came unstuck due to their own terrible disposal, but it's pretty clear that the league has worked out that control over chaos football will eventually win out. And certainly, this is the key to beating us, because our defence is so poor, we have very little ability to properly counter-attack.

I think the answer to short to mid term success is a mixture of both styles. I liked that we started going backwards and sideways off some of our centre clearances. This showed a greater value for possession, which I called for at the end of last week, but we simply didn't do it enough.

I'm thinking we need to do this more, not all the time, but where appropriate, we need to use the wings or the increased space afforded in the centre square due to the 6-6-6 rule, to ensure we get the most value for our midfield dominance and from our centre clearances in general.

If we start playing more tempo and control off some clearances, I think we'll get better conversion and it'll mean the opposition has less time to impact on the scoreboard going the other way. So there's a bit of a twofold improvement possibility there.

It's also pretty clear that the zone defence and aggressive press is a double-edged sword. We're not quick enough to play the bombing it long and crumbing chaos style that Richmond made so successful across 2017 and 2018, but we're also too slow not to play at least a soft zone defence to cover for runners out the back. 

Defensively, I'm at a loss as to how to solve the lack of 1v1 wins, but if we tidy up our offence, that will become a form of defence, because teams won't be able to slingshot on us as easily.

I'm wondering where the inventive mind of Craig Jennings has gone. 

The Melbourne brand of footy ...

As designed by the FD

I see similarity... except....a Camel is actually useful.

Imho...a lot of our situation is by decree.

We've set out to play a particular style. It invariably ignores/over-rides/ dispenses-with any inherent footy nous of our players and replaced it with a draconian nonsense that is easily picked apart.

Some players are indeed woeful, but many are simply incapable of playing a game style which itself is incapable of sustainability.

We play rubbish.....by design.

 

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"The damage is not fatal" You gotta love the positivity dont you from Goody. 

Then what the frig is it goody?

We have been picked apart over the off- season,  but we didn't need to review the West Coast game. 

Guess what Goody and Co the whole friggen competition did and guess what, your now staring down the barrel of 0-3.

You reckon it might have been an idea to look at it Goody?

We are a [censored] shambles. 

Last year was a dream.

15 hours ago, rjay said:

It's very relevant, we haven't recovered from it and we haven't learnt from it...

We haven't recovered from a long season going a month longer than the bottom sides and 3 tough finals, not just the one we lost.

We haven't successfully implemented game plan changes but I don't think that means we didn't learn from the Eagles game.

14 hours ago, A F said:

I think it was always a case of deciding whether we'd continue to back in our system (and that maybe we just had an off day in the Prelim) or it was about making some tweaks to the system to ensure that the control style wouldn't win out against us. Unfortunately, it seems we haven't made any adjustments and that's pretty incredible when you think of what the FD are paid and the professionalism required in the AFL. 

It was interesting seeing even Essendon try the control style / keepings off a bit tonight and actually, usually it came unstuck due to their own terrible disposal, but it's pretty clear that the league has worked out that control over chaos football will eventually win out. And certainly, this is the key to beating us, because our defence is so poor, we have very little ability to properly counter-attack.

There has been a shift if more possession retention but the Cats are the form team of the comp playing far quicker and more aggressively than they did for most of 2018. They've got fresh legs in Rohan, Dahlhaus and Atkins up forward and added something new to their midfield in Constable and Parfitt and are vastly improved (for now). 

I just think the sample size is a bit too early to really get a read on what we are trying to do. The first quarter against Port looked great. Then we chased tail for 3/4's. Geelong is a narrow ground in the wet, so we bombed it in and tried to press up, that's a strategy that's worked for us before down there. Against the Bombers we had the excellent patch in the 2nd quarter that used the ball nicely to get some high percentage inside 50's. The rest of the game the midfield defensive work and backline were so bad there's nothing we could do.

We made some clear list changes - May in, Kolodjashnij replacing Tyson, Fritsch in on a wing, Joel Smith as a mobile marking/spread the field forward, adding in 4 small forward/flank options in Lockhart, C Wagner, Bedford, Chandler. I think those moves were focused on a stronger backline, more outside run and spread. We are getting little to nothing from those additions so far as well as so many of our best players being down or out.

I'm not a Lewis fan but he's spent the last 2 years as our backline organiser who controls the uncontested touches and has been missing. I agree on the need to use the wings from centre clearances but on way it goes to Jones who can't free space and the other way it goes to KK who can't do anything. And most of the time the mids could barely keep track of their opponents yet alone break in to space to hit up a forward on a lead (in our outside 50).

On 3/24/2019 at 3:31 PM, rjay said:

You're right 'Goody', it's no reason to overreact but that's now 4 poor games in a row.

That's a trend.

I think we can now put some things into perspective and act to fix what we can.

From my post after the JLT games...

"A lot of people wanting to put things into perspective from my readings....

...so here's my perspective.

We're not good enough to cruise through preseason games just yet...if these games are meant to tweak the game plan and fine tune for the first game then heaven help us.

That was a dogs breakfast.

No amount of perspective can change that."

In another post earlier in the year I also said that our continued improvement will be harder this year.

We've been on a steady upward climb and logic would see us drop off a bit somewhere.

Is this the year we drop back a bit? do we miss finals?

A bit early to call but on the evidence of the last 4 games we've got work to do.

I think our list is overrated by the media and of course us fans...there are holes and I'm sure the FD know this.

We lack quality small forwards, Jeffy is the only class one we have and he's super flakey...

Spargo is not up to it yet and I don't think he has the tricks to ever be. At his size he needs them big time.

ANB can fill a role but at the moment that's what all our small forwards are trying to do...he must hit the scoreboard to hold his place.

We had Sparrow in there yesterday for his first game and at least he put some pressure on but he's not a small forward.

Hunt's been tried but he's not one either.

So our small forwards are about pressure but none bring scoreboard pressure except Jeffy at times.

Our defence..Frost, should have been delisted.

Omac...the experiment is over. Time to put development into Petty alongside May & Lever.

Hibberd hasn't been the player he was in 2017, he's drifting by and not working anywhere near hard enough.

We miss Lever big time but I think we overpaid for him, one of those draft kids running around now adding a bit of class could have been handy.

Tommy Mac worries me, he's had a good season as a forward but has been very average as of late.

History shows he had a really good season and a bit as a defender then dropped off dramatically.

Let's hope it's just an aberration and he's up and firing again soon but the trend is remarkably similar.

Is Tommy getting ahead of himself or have the opposition worked him?

A big call but maybe Tommy could do with some Casey time with his brother.

Weid is a kid and he will get a bit more time. Expect him to be up and down but he needs to work harder when down.

Trac...undecided on him. I get the feeling he will never be the player we wanted but still be a good player. Just not a great one.

It's time to deliver young Trac, no more teasing.

The mids are a good group but they are believing their own publicity.

Thanks Gary Lyon, we all know Oliver is a star but he doesn't need to drink his own bathwater and he has recently.

Time for them to grow up and also time for Max to focus on his game, he's being pushed around too easily.

You're a big boy Max and you don't need everyone to like you.

Outside run, yeah we all know that. KK may provide some if he gets back to early career form but there's no guarantee there.

Being out of the early picks in the last 2 drafts has hurt and we need to pick some more talent.

Fritsch is class but is only a fringe player at the moment so he needs to give us more this year.

A side note to yesterday...they were up and about.

Did anyone notice how many players ran to Sparrow when he kicked his first AFL goal in his first game? not enough for my liking.

We weren't up for it.

So the question remains...the writing was on the wall for yesterdays game. Is it on the wall going forward?

Will we drop off this year?

 

 

 

Sadly this is where we are after 3 matches and looks like we could be blasted back to a few years ago. 

Cant disagree with any of this post .

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On 3/24/2019 at 3:31 PM, rjay said:

You're right 'Goody', it's no reason to overreact but that's now 4 poor games in a row.

That's a trend.

I think we can now put some things into perspective and act to fix what we can.

From my post after the JLT games...

"A lot of people wanting to put things into perspective from my readings....

...so here's my perspective.

We're not good enough to cruise through preseason games just yet...if these games are meant to tweak the game plan and fine tune for the first game then heaven help us.

That was a dogs breakfast.

No amount of perspective can change that."

In another post earlier in the year I also said that our continued improvement will be harder this year.

We've been on a steady upward climb and logic would see us drop off a bit somewhere.

Is this the year we drop back a bit? do we miss finals?

A bit early to call but on the evidence of the last 4 games we've got work to do.

I think our list is overrated by the media and of course us fans...there are holes and I'm sure the FD know this.

We lack quality small forwards, Jeffy is the only class one we have and he's super flakey...

Spargo is not up to it yet and I don't think he has the tricks to ever be. At his size he needs them big time.

ANB can fill a role but at the moment that's what all our small forwards are trying to do...he must hit the scoreboard to hold his place.

We had Sparrow in there yesterday for his first game and at least he put some pressure on but he's not a small forward.

Hunt's been tried but he's not one either.

So our small forwards are about pressure but none bring scoreboard pressure except Jeffy at times.

Our defence..Frost, should have been delisted.

Omac...the experiment is over. Time to put development into Petty alongside May & Lever.

Hibberd hasn't been the player he was in 2017, he's drifting by and not working anywhere near hard enough.

We miss Lever big time but I think we overpaid for him, one of those draft kids running around now adding a bit of class could have been handy.

Tommy Mac worries me, he's had a good season as a forward but has been very average as of late.

History shows he had a really good season and a bit as a defender then dropped off dramatically.

Let's hope it's just an aberration and he's up and firing again soon but the trend is remarkably similar.

Is Tommy getting ahead of himself or have the opposition worked him?

A big call but maybe Tommy could do with some Casey time with his brother.

Weid is a kid and he will get a bit more time. Expect him to be up and down but he needs to work harder when down.

Trac...undecided on him. I get the feeling he will never be the player we wanted but still be a good player. Just not a great one.

It's time to deliver young Trac, no more teasing.

The mids are a good group but they are believing their own publicity.

Thanks Gary Lyon, we all know Oliver is a star but he doesn't need to drink his own bathwater and he has recently.

Time for them to grow up and also time for Max to focus on his game, he's being pushed around too easily.

You're a big boy Max and you don't need everyone to like you.

Outside run, yeah we all know that. KK may provide some if he gets back to early career form but there's no guarantee there.

Being out of the early picks in the last 2 drafts has hurt and we need to pick some more talent.

Fritsch is class but is only a fringe player at the moment so he needs to give us more this year.

A side note to yesterday...they were up and about.

Did anyone notice how many players ran to Sparrow when he kicked his first AFL goal in his first game? not enough for my liking.

We weren't up for it.

So the question remains...the writing was on the wall for yesterdays game. Is it on the wall going forward?

Will we drop off this year?

 

 

 

Another loss... pretty much the same as the others...we have enough problems without carrying Jordan (Mike Brierley) Lewis, Tommy MAC & Spargo.

Another question. Did the club overrate the list & believe the hype about being in the window.?Some recruiting/trade decisions would point that way...

On a positive, The future number one pick looked good today for the Australian U18's

 

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Game style is done. Time to change tact. We don't have the personnel or coaching nous to make chaos footy work on the most important ground in the game.

2019 is done and dusted. Start trying some things for 2020 and play man on man, throw the press out and start again.

I'll back Goodwin to turn it around, but if he sticks with the game style we won't be getting off the bottom of the ladder. The forward 50 efficiency was disgraceful today.

41 minutes ago, A F said:

 

2019 is done and dusted. Start trying some things for 2020 and play man on man, throw the press out and start again.

 

Yup.  We are stuffed...  scary thing is we havent even hit the hard part of the fixture yet. 

40 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Yup.  We are stuffed...  scary thing is we havent even hit the hard part of the fixture yet. 

Yep, I dread to think what Richmond and Hawthorn will do to us the next two weeks.

The imbalance between inside power and outside run/speed is killing us. Port, Freo and Geelong fixed it in the last draft but we did nothing. 666 was always going to adjust the balance a little towards the outside part, but we continued on the inside road. Now here we are. Shithouse again.

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On 3/25/2019 at 12:15 AM, Pates said:

I stopped reading at the suggestion of dropping TMac.

What do you think now Pates???? maybe you would like to read a bit further.

We haven't addressed the Prelim final and it shows...

By the way this is what I said about Tommy after round 1 and nothing has changed since...

 

"Tommy Mac worries me, he's had a good season as a forward but has been very average as of late.

History shows he had a really good season and a bit as a defender then dropped off dramatically.

Let's hope it's just an aberration and he's up and firing again soon but the trend is remarkably similar.

Is Tommy getting ahead of himself or have the opposition worked him?

A big call but maybe Tommy could do with some Casey time with his brother."

 

The only thing I would change in that now is it's no longer a big call...he needs to go back. He's doing exactly what he did as a defender.

With a forward line of Tommy, Weid and the Big P...we can only take 2 and P is the only one with his hand up at the moment...

The forward line is a debacle...the set up is all wrong, the starting positions are all wrong.

I know we talk about defence but F...me. No defensive pressure and believe me it's not delivery into the forward half that's at fault.

Being at the game, the set up is wrong, the forwards when they deem to move go to the wrong places and non of the keys can catch a cold.

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Read this comment from a Hawks supporter on Facebook.

A pretty good summation I would think....

"Not a dees supporter (Hawks supporter), but have watched all their games this year. Your team has no connection up forward. Trying to play players in the forward line who are not forwards. Midfield is very good, but appears to have no confidence in the forward line. Another major problem is your defensive structure as they zone off way too far and allowed some real easy goals. Not rubbing it in, just putting my thoughts on it. It is a long way back for this year, but think they will bounce back, but need to play players in their natural positions."

43 minutes ago, rjay said:

Read this comment from a Hawks supporter on Facebook.

A pretty good summation I would think....

"Not a dees supporter (Hawks supporter), but have watched all their games this year. Your team has no connection up forward. Trying to play players in the forward line who are not forwards. Midfield is very good, but appears to have no confidence in the forward line. Another major problem is your defensive structure as they zone off way too far and allowed some real easy goals. Not rubbing it in, just putting my thoughts on it. It is a long way back for this year, but think they will bounce back, but need to play players in their natural positions."

The post is spot on, but obvious.

 
1 hour ago, Clintosaurus said:

The imbalance between inside power and outside run/speed is killing us. Port, Freo and Geelong fixed it in the last draft but we did nothing. 666 was always going to adjust the balance a little towards the outside part, but we continued on the inside road. Now here we are. Shithouse again.

Hence we are sponsored by No Balance.

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On 3/24/2019 at 8:37 PM, nosoupforme said:

Like to know your response after Round 7,  RJ.

2 to go and looking worse...let's see.


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    Follow all the action from every Round 13 clash excluding the Dees as the 2025 AFL Premiership Season rolls on. With Melbourne playing in the final match of the round on King's Birthday, all eyes turn to the rest of the competition. Who are you tipping to win? And more importantly, which results best serve the Demons’ finals aspirations? Join the discussion and keep track of the matches that could shape the ladder and impact our run to September.

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  • PREVIEW: Collingwood

    Having convincingly defeated last year’s premier and decisively outplayed the runner-up with 8.2 in the final quarter, nothing epitomized the Melbourne Football Club’s performance more than its 1.12 final half, particularly the eight consecutive behinds in the last term, against a struggling St Kilda team in the midst of a dismal losing streak. Just when stability and consistency were anticipated within the Demon ranks, they delivered a quintessential performance marked by instability and ill-conceived decisions, with the most striking aspect being their inaccuracy in kicking for goal, which suggested a lack of preparation (instead of sleeping in their hotel in Alice, were they having a night on the turps) rather than a well-rested team. Let’s face it - this kicking disease that makes them look like raw amateurs is becoming a millstone around the team’s neck.

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  • CASEY: Sydney

    The Casey Demons were always expected to emerge victorious in their matchup against the lowly-ranked Sydney Swans at picturesque Tramway Oval, situated in the shadows of the SCG in Moore Park. They dominated the proceedings in the opening two and a half quarters of the game but had little to show for it. This was primarily due to their own sloppy errors in a low-standard game that produced a number of crowded mauls reminiscent of the rugby game popular in old Sydney Town. However, when the Swans tired, as teams often do when they turn games into ugly defensive contests, Casey lifted the standard of its own play and … it was off to the races. Not to nearby Randwick but to a different race with an objective of piling on goal after goal on the way to a mammoth victory. At the 25-minute mark of the third quarter, the Demons held a slender 14-point lead over the Swans, who are ahead on the ladder of only the previous week's opposition, the ailing Bullants. Forty minutes later, they had more than fully compensated for the sloppiness of their earlier play with a decisive 94-point victory, that culminated in a rousing finish which yielded thirteen unanswered goals. Kicks hit their targets, the ball found itself going through the middle and every player made a contribution.

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  • REPORT: St. Kilda

    Hands up if you thought, like me, at half-time in yesterday’s game at TIO Traeger Park, Alice Springs that Melbourne’s disposal around the ground and, in particular, its kicking inaccuracy in front of the goals couldn’t get any worse. Well, it did. And what’s even more damning for the Melbourne Football Club is that the game against St Kilda and its resurgence from the bottomless pit of its miserable start to the season wasn’t just lost through poor conversion for goal but rather in the 15 minutes when the entire team went into a slumber and was mugged by the out-of-form Saints. Their six goals two behinds (one goal less than the Demons managed for the whole game) weaved a path of destruction from which they were unable to recover. Ross Lyon’s astute use of pressure to contain the situation once they had asserted their grip on the game, and Melbourne’s self-destructive wastefulness, assured that outcome. The old adage about the insanity of repeatedly doing something and expecting a different result, was out there. Two years ago, the score line in Melbourne’s loss to the Giants at this same ground was 5 goals 15 behinds - a ratio of one goal per four scoring shots - was perfectly replicated with yesterday’s 7 goals 21 behinds. 
    This has been going on for a while and opens up a number of questions. I’ll put forward a few that come to mind from this performance. The obvious first question is whether the club can find a suitable coach to instruct players on proper kicking techniques or is this a skill that can no longer be developed at this stage of the development of our playing group? Another concern is the team's ability to counter an opponent's dominance during a run on as exemplified by the Saints in the first quarter. Did the Demons underestimate their opponents, considering St Kilda's goals during this period were scored by relatively unknown forwards? Furthermore, given the modest attendance of 6,721 at TIO Traeger Park and the team's poor past performances at this venue, is it prudent to prioritize financial gain over potentially sacrificing valuable premiership points by relinquishing home ground advantage, notwithstanding the cultural significance of the team's connection to the Red Centre? 

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  • PREGAME: Collingwood

    After a disappointing loss in Alice Springs the Demons return to the MCG to take on the Magpies in the annual King's Birthday Big Freeze for MND game. Who comes in and who goes out?

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  • PODCAST: St. Kilda

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 2nd June @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we have a chat with former Demon ruckman Jeff White about his YouTube channel First Use where he dissects ruck setups and contests. We'll then discuss the Dees disappointing loss to the Saints in Alice Springs.
    Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
    Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/

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