3 hours ago, The Chazz said:

The thing I find most distressing is that every article that I have read states how many games he has played in his career.  172?  It's criminal to think that he's played that many.

And we turned him into Bayley Fritsch.   Good times.

2 hours ago, Soidee said:

Many here are missing the point!  Idiots who let themselves get filmed doing this stuff deserve what gets thrown at them.  Personally Ido not give a rats what he does in his private time, however, there is an issue here about behaviour towards women.  It’s a bad look and society is trying to change attitudes like this.  Lesson 101 do not get filmed!!!!

how is this an attitude towards women issue? she was consenting to it all. so its just 2 people having a bit of fun on the Oktoberfest. Its people like you that make this PC ridiculous culture we're in. 

 

1 hour ago, ProDee said:

Craig isn't wrong.

1 hour ago, Dr.D said:

how is this an attitude towards women issue? she was consenting to it all. so its just 2 people having a bit of fun on the Oktoberfest. Its people like you that make this PC ridiculous culture we're in. 

So true. He is on holidays 

that is a nice way to spend it

people are laughing and having fun

CHILL THE F$&@ OUT PEOPLE....

 

The Port forums are a thing of beauty. They are finding it really difficult to determine which year ‘last October’ falls under, October 2017 or October 2018.

The conversation is really engrossing, but I still walk away confused by them. 

1 hour ago, Dr.D said:

how is this an attitude towards women issue? she was consenting to it all. so its just 2 people having a bit of fun on the Oktoberfest. Its people like you that make this PC ridiculous culture we're in. 

Ive had my fair share of fun in my 60 years pal!  I bet if you ask that girl whether she was having fun, the answer might surprise you.  People like me pal may just have seen more of life than you.  The difference was, I was never stupid enough to be filmed.  If you don’t get the bad look issue, you never will.  

3 minutes ago, Soidee said:

Ive had my fair share of fun in my 60 years pal!  I bet if you ask that girl whether she was having fun, the answer might surprise you.  People like me pal may just have seen more of life than you.  The difference was, I was never stupid enough to be filmed.  If you don’t get the bad look issue, you never will.  

Yes for Jack to allow this to be filmed on a smartphone is just beyond stupid, and he will cop whatever he gets. 

As i said earlier, i was blessed to be young before the technology was available. 

You can’t do anything now with any privacy. 

How much further will it go??

1 minute ago, Soidee said:

Ive had my fair share of fun in my 60 years pal!  I bet if you ask that girl whether she was having fun, the answer might surprise you.  People like me pal may just have seen more of life than you.  The difference was, I was never stupid enough to be filmed.  If you don’t get the bad look issue, you never will.  

How could she be having fun, only men like sex, poor women they are forced by men to doing anything that involves anything sexualized, yes us men force them to do these things, no way no women would ever what a man to touch them, he must of forced her. The job of these women is to encourage men.

Whatever your value judgement on the incident, the majority of people including AFL footballers would not behave this way. Watts can now say it "looks bad". Yes it does, but he did it.  Whatever the substance, Jack looks the worse for wear.  Was the waitress consenting ? She was not objecting, but do you think she was getting a lot of fun out of it? I suspect not, but a bunch of Aussie lads on holiday (as if that makes any difference) wanted to have a bit of fun at the expense of the waitress. 

Its demeaning and sexist. 

The majority of men including AFL players would not have behaved this way.  Its not Jack Trengove, a team mate and friend of Watts.

Watts is clearly a party boy who likes the social limelight but lacks the commitment and discipline to be a top footballer.

But we are not talking about football, but an attitude and action that is inappropriate and ill disciplined whoever the person be and another case of men behaving badly towards women.   

The fact that Watts says it looks bad, simply means "he looks bad." It's all about him.

What about the young woman? Any reference or apology . No of course not. I forgot, she was obviously having fun.  

19 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Whatever your value judgement on the incident, the majority of people including AFL footballers would not behave this way. Watts can now say it "looks bad". Yes it does, but he did it.  Whatever the substance, Jack looks the worse for wear.  Was the waitress consenting ? She was not objecting, but do you think she was getting a lot of fun out of it? I suspect not, but a bunch of Aussie lads on holiday (as if that makes any difference) wanted to have a bit of fun at the expense of the waitress. 

Its demeaning and sexist. 

The majority of men including AFL players would not have behaved this way.  Its not Jack Trengove, a team mate and friend of Watts.

Watts is clearly a party boy who likes the social limelight but lacks the commitment and discipline to be a top footballer.

But we are not talking about football, but an attitude and action that is inappropriate and ill disciplined whoever the person be and another case of men behaving badly towards women.   

The fact that Watts says it looks bad, simply means "he looks bad." It's all about him.

What about the young woman? Any reference or apology . No of course not. I forgot, she was obviously having fun.  

That of course is your opinion....

6 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

That of course is your opinion....

Absolutely Sir, as are all the "opinion pieces" on this site.

My first line referred to the words value judgement.  Each to their own.

I do object to the excuse that it's all just a bit of fun.  That's opinion as well. 

12 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

That of course is your opinion....

c'mon wyl, you can't have it both ways, you have complained loudly before how bad culture at a football club shouldn't be tolerated and it's not as though jack has a lot of credits in the bank

3 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Absolutely Sir, as are all the "opinion pieces" on this site.

My first line referred to the words value judgement.  Each to their own.

I do object to the excuse that it's all just a bit of fun.  That's opinion as well. 

Your use of the words majority and minority i find interesting. 

I can assure you having been there, albeit a long time ago, the majority of both Males and Females at Oktoberfest were getting right off on having fun. 

Not like what is now allowed in Victoria 

Sad really. Having fun is being outlawed slowly, just like Orwell said it was going to be

3 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

c'mon wyl, you can't have it both ways, you have complained loudly before how bad culture at a football club shouldn't be tolerated and it's not as though jack has a lot of credits in the bank

He is not doing anything wrong. It’s during the holidays

the AFL should shut up during the off season. There lies the real problem

2 hours ago, Dr.D said:

how is this an attitude towards women issue? she was consenting to it all. so its just 2 people having a bit of fun on the Oktoberfest. Its people like you that make this PC ridiculous culture we're in. 

She looked so bored, It was probably  the 20th time she had done it that day for the annoying tourists.  And I bet she makes a killing from it too.

More power to the lass.

9 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Your use of the words majority and minority i find interesting. 

I can assure you having been there, albeit a long time ago, the majority of both Males and Females at Oktoberfest were getting right off on having fun. 

Not like what is now allowed in Victoria 

Sad really. Having fun is being outlawed slowly, just like Orwell said it was going to be

I am obviously a dag, as Oktoberfest and fun are antonyms to me.  My standards are not that high but they would preclude me from going to this drunken swill and putting my nose between a girls breasts!  

If a Male did that to my daughter or wife I would break his nose. 

Edited February 4, 20196 yr by hemingway

2 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

She looked so bored, It was probably  the 20th time she had done it that day for the annoying tourists.  And I bet she makes a killing from it too.

More power to the lass.

Part of the job. Good luck to her. 

Probably pays for University for the year

4 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

He is not doing anything wrong. It’s during the holidays

the AFL should shut up during the off season. There lies the real problem

so culture is like a tap, huh?

wonder why jack said he was embarrassed for his parents and sister if it was just a question of fun

3 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

She looked so bored, It was probably  the 20th time she had done it that day for the annoying tourists.  And I bet she makes a killing from it too.

More power to the lass.

now that's the most disingenuous post today. 

1 minute ago, hemingway said:

I am obviously a dag, as Oktoberfest and fun are antonyms to me.  My standards are not that high but they would preclude me from going to this drunken swill and putting my nose between a girls breasts!  

If a Male did that to my daughter or wife I would break their nose. 

Ahh yes. You see I preferred “Clockwork Orange” whilst you were watching “The Sound of Music”

 

I just wonder what his mum said to him. 

2 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

so culture is like a tap, huh?

wonder why jack said he was embarrassed for his parents and sister if it was just a question of fun

The Standardised AFL doorstop apology...

”Say this Jack...”

Seen it all before and had to cut videotape stories on the same apologies. 

It shouldn’t have been filmed.