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Posted
57 minutes ago, Demon from Sydney said:

Finally someone else sees it.Id take anything from Freo just to move the mummies boy on. He hasnt bought into the club so take what we can now,as either way hes gone in the end

I'll trade him, but only for a deal that helps us get May. Pick 11 doesn't do that.

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Posted
21 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

If you think they’re offering rubbish now just wait 12 months.

 

That’s next year. A lot changes in 365 days. I am interested in next season. 

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Posted
38 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Pascal was the inventor of game theory.. (mind you it was not called that at the time).

Game theory works on the concept that both sides will take the probability that seems to give them the best outcome.

A belief in God was the example he used to demonstrate his theory in that it is better to believe that he exists because you can never be disappointed when you find out he doesn't.

Yeah OK I get that.  Now how does it apply specifically to this thread?

Posted
56 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

works only if Freo are near enough to the bottom to ensure no other club takes him first.

If Hogan rejects the offer he doesn't play.

Big stakes and in a way a silly deal from Hogan's perspective in the sense that the picks are inter club... he's only interested in the length of contract and dollars per year.

So in short unless Freo end up bottom any deal from this year is on the table next year if not better.

As an aside I cannot understand why Hogan does not want to go to WCE at the end of next year instead of to the perennial cellar dweller that Freo could be destined to become.

Maybe it’s an ego thing? At Freo he would be a marquee player, best paid on the list and set up for life post-career. That’s leaving aside the other commercial opportunities he’s likely to get as face of the club. Freo will be rebuilding for a few years at least, and barring Fyfe & Walters, the players on their list would not be very highly paid, they’ve more space in the salary cap than we’re likely to have especially if Petracca, Gus & Oliver continue their upward trajectories and demand larger contracts in 2-3 years time. I also believe there would be less pressure on him, odd as that may sound; his potential team mates can’t hold a candle to him in talent terms, and their dysfunctional midfield will likely be blamed if he fails to eclipse his goal-scoring achievements at the MFC. 

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One thing that player managers of potential and current Fremantle players should take into account are the new restrictions re trainers on the field. With Ross Lyon’s game plan dehydration becomes a serious WH&S risk!

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Posted
28 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Dockerland is at 20 pages on this subject and we are at 312.

Does this say anything about either team's following or is it just that weather in Perth is too good to be worried about such matters?

It's because Jesse Hogan is our star player and we are much more personally invested in him than Freo fans are.  He's reality to us and theory to them.

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Posted
30 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Dockerland is at 20 pages on this subject and we are at 312.

Does this say anything about either team's following or is it just that weather in Perth is too good to be worried about such matters?

just says a lot about their level of literacy and/or dyslexia  

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

That’s next year. A lot changes in 365 days. I am interested in next season. 

Me too. I want a backline capable of standing up in prelim and grand finals. 

We can win the premiership without an uncommitted, wantaway Jesse Hogan. 

I’ve yet to hear, feel or see anything from this player that he’s 100% committed to the cause of the red & blue. 

One foot in, one foot out. Now desperate to leave. Why would you want that bad energy on your list? Brings the joint down.

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What would people think of this scenario  (in the spirit of getting the deal done):

Brisbane trade Pick 5 to us & 32 to Fremantle 

Fremantle trade Lachie Neale to Brisbane & Pick 23 to us

We trade Hogan to Fremantle & Pick 46 to Brisbane 

Means Brisbane loose Picks 5 & 32 but get Neale & Pick 46

Fremantle loose Neale & Pick 23 but get Hogan & Pick 32

We loose Hogan & Pick 46 but gain Picks 5 & 23.

Fremantle can then trade Picks 11 & 49 to GWS for Lobb & Pick 25.

We trade Pick 5 & future 3rd Round Pick to Gold Coast for May & KK.

Finally knowing we have picks 54, 62 & 65 up out sleeve to match any bids from 30+ for Bedford, we package picks 23 & 36 to Richmond for Pick 17 & a late pick.

Net Gains

OUT: Hogan, Tyson, Kent, Pick 36, 46 & future 3rd Round Pick 

IN: May, KK, Preuss, Pick 17, Pick 62, Pick 65

That reads ok to me.

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Posted
Just now, EnterTheDragon said:

Me too. I want a backline capable of standing up in prelim and grand finals. 

We can win the premiership without an uncommitted, wantaway Jesse Hogan. 

I’ve yet to hear, feel or see anything from this player that he’s 100% committed to the cause of the red & blue. 

One foot in, one foot out. Now desperate to leave. Why would you want that bad energy on your list? Brings the joint down.

Where is the “uncommitted Hogan” i am yet to hear this spoken anywhere except on this site. NOTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE LAST NIGHT. 

 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, MadAsHell said:

What would people think of this scenario  (in the spirit of getting the deal done):

Brisbane trade Pick 5 to us & 32 to Fremantle 

Fremantle trade Lachie Neale to Brisbane & Pick 23 to us

We trade Hogan to Fremantle & Pick 46 to Brisbane 

Means Brisbane loose Picks 5 & 32 but get Neale & Pick 46

Fremantle loose Neale & Pick 23 but get Hogan & Pick 32

We loose Hogan & Pick 46 but gain Picks 5 & 23.

Fremantle can then trade Picks 11 & 49 to GWS for Lobb & Pick 25.

We trade Pick 5 & future 3rd Round Pick to Gold Coast for May & KK.

Finally knowing we have picks 54, 62 & 65 up out sleeve to match any bids from 30+ for Bedford, we package picks 23 & 36 to Richmond for Pick 17 & a late pick.

Net Gains

OUT: Hogan, Tyson, Kent, Pick 36, 46 & future 3rd Round Pick 

IN: May, KK, Preuss, Pick 17, Pick 62, Pick 65

That reads ok to me.

I'd be happy enough, provided we also got pick 24 or 29 with May.

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Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Where is the “uncommitted Hogan” i am yet to hear this spoken anywhere except on this site. NOTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE LAST NIGHT. 

 

He’s at a club on the verge of sustained finals success and possible premierships but to quote Mahoney is “happy to be traded back to WA”. 

If that doesn’t blare “uncommitted” to you, what does?

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4 minutes ago, MadAsHell said:

What would people think of this scenario  (in the spirit of getting the deal done):

Brisbane trade Pick 5 to us & 32 to Fremantle 

Fremantle trade Lachie Neale to Brisbane & Pick 23 to us

We trade Hogan to Fremantle & Pick 46 to Brisbane 

Means Brisbane loose Picks 5 & 32 but get Neale & Pick 46

Fremantle loose Neale & Pick 23 but get Hogan & Pick 32

We loose Hogan & Pick 46 but gain Picks 5 & 23.

Fremantle can then trade Picks 11 & 49 to GWS for Lobb & Pick 25.

We trade Pick 5 & future 3rd Round Pick to Gold Coast for May & KK.

Finally knowing we have picks 54, 62 & 65 up out sleeve to match any bids from 30+ for Bedford, we package picks 23 & 36 to Richmond for Pick 17 & a late pick.

Net Gains

OUT: Hogan, Tyson, Kent, Pick 36, 46 & future 3rd Round Pick 

IN: May, KK, Preuss, Pick 17, Pick 62, Pick 65

That reads ok to me.

So given our retirements and delistings how do we fill the list vacancies to bring us up to the required number? 

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1 minute ago, EnterTheDragon said:

He’s at a club on the verge of finals success and possible premierships but to quote Mahoney is “happy to be traded back to WA”. 

If that doesn’t blare “uncommitted” to you, what does?

and also happy to stay if a deal cannot be reached. You forgot that bit 

The kid lost his Dad and had Testicular Cancer this year. He is allowed to weigh up options. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

and also happy to stay if a deal cannot be reached. You forgot that bit 

The party line.

If he was happy to stay he’d have inked a three year extension months ago.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

So given our retirements and delistings how do we fill the list vacancies to bring us up to the required number? 

Reckon we'll go with 38 senior list, 4 rookie list & 2 category B rookies for the year.

8 retirements/delistings and 3 trades out creates 11 vacancies.

We've already got Bradtke & Walker coming in as Cat B rookies takes 2 spots.

Trade in May, KK & Preuss makes 5.

Use 4 Picks at the National Draft is 9.

One Pick in the Rookie Draft is 10.

One delisted free agent = 11.

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This thread is getting just a little bit Weird But shows a high level of care for our Club and Player...........!!!!!!!!!!

Posted
6 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

The party line.

If he was happy to stay he’d have inked a three year extension months ago.

He may well do it after his plane lands too. 

Fremantle are throwing rubbish, so the deal is off unless their attitude changes. 

Jesse Hogan has said nothing...

Posted
3 minutes ago, MadAsHell said:

Reckon we'll go with 38 senior list, 4 rookie list & 2 category B rookies for the year.

8 retirements/delistings and 3 trades out creates 11 vacancies.

We've already got Bradtke & Walker coming in as Cat B rookies takes 2 spots.

Trade in May, KK & Preuss makes 5.

Use 4 Picks at the National Draft is 9.

One Pick in the Rookie Draft is 10.

One delisted free agent = 11.

I'm 90% sure Cat B rookies don't count as players on your main 44 man squad

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

He may well do it after his plane lands too. 

Fremantle are throwing rubbish, so the deal is off unless their attitude changes. 

Jesse Hogan has said nothing...

hes said nothing to YOU !!...or me..  I dont think it really counts SWYL ;)

im just guessing a bit gets said behind doors...all hush hush nudge nudge wink wink....need I say more ?

 

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Posted
1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

hes said nothing to YOU !!...or me..  I dont think it really counts SWYL ;)

im just guessing a bit gets said behind doors...all hush hush nudge nudge wink wink....need I say more ?

 

You are guessing. As you have done for days now...

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Posted
12 minutes ago, MadAsHell said:

Reckon we'll go with 38 senior list, 4 rookie list & 2 category B rookies for the year.

8 retirements/delistings and 3 trades out creates 11 vacancies.

We've already got Bradtke & Walker coming in as Cat B rookies takes 2 spots.

Trade in May, KK & Preuss makes 5.

Use 4 Picks at the National Draft is 9.

One Pick in the Rookie Draft is 10.

One delisted free agent = 11.

Think we might use 36 for Bedford, and I doubt cat B's are on main list.

Might take 2 or 3 DFAs to get the numbers. Menzel here we come! ?

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