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  On 08/09/2018 at 10:02, big_red_fire_engine said:

We need more mobility if anything at all against Hawthorn. Bernie cant run any more. 

A few weeks off may have helped. Though it is his leadership to set up our structures, kicking in after a point, he likes hitting and hurting the opposition, reads the play well and the team love him.

I think his only chance would be if injuries.

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      On 08/09/2018 at 05:51, rjay said:

    Spargo showed no signs of being overawed.

    He didn't fumble and used the ball well when he had it.

    He's a smart footballer

    I think his only problem last night was he didn't get a lot of the ball, and lacks penetration in his kicking. That's not being overawed that's just a kid developing.

    That is the Big one rjay. His kicking simply is not AFL standard. Anything beyond 30 metres is doubtful. He barely makes the distance when kicking for goal from 40 metres. 

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      On 08/09/2018 at 10:09, DV8 said:

    They're a good side. 

    Under the radar,,,,  the Hawks this year.

    Coming off a loss.

    Backline disrupted with Stratton out.

    Looks like it is a change of guard in the AFL. The teams who have dominated the past decade may have ended.

    Jordans inside knowledge.

    No superstars. Mitchell not a big influencer for the amount of ball he gets. The others are impact players.   

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      On 08/09/2018 at 10:16, 000 said:

    Coming off a loss.

    Backline disrupted with Stratton out.

    Looks like it is a change of guard in the AFL. The teams who have dominated the past decade may have ended.

    Jordans inside knowledge.

    No superstars. Mitchell not a big influencer for the amount of ball he gets. The others are impact players.   

    Yep, underestimate them, at our Peril.

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      On 08/09/2018 at 09:26, DV8 said:

    he's a distributor. and clever.

    what is his personal win loss record?  Seems to be a winner more often than not.

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      On 08/09/2018 at 09:50, DV8 said:

    Who are you concern players, we need to cover ?

    I think you asked did we have injuries. 

    Wouldn't know, just a punter.

    Hoping for no niggles.

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      On 08/09/2018 at 07:57, JTR said:

    Purely a hypothetical, but if Hogan & Lever were both fit, had match fitness & form, do they both come in? And for whom?

    Hogan on a wing for Tyson, Lever down back. Push Fritsch forward and Spargo goes out.

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      On 08/09/2018 at 10:00, 000 said:

    I looked at their list and think they have 10 players who we should close down.

    Sicily, Impey, Burgoyne, O'mera, Mitchell, Isac Smith, Gunston, Breust, Puopolo and Roughhead.

     

     

    This is no easy one

    hawks have class on every line 

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      On 08/09/2018 at 10:28, DV8 said:

    Yep, underestimate them, at our Peril.

    I don't underestimate them. I was looking at their weaknesses.

    Hoping for a change of the guard.

    They control the ball well. 

    Have good outside runners.

    Good distribution of goal kickers.

    Fast movers of the ball.

    Good leg speed and endurance runners.

    A tough team that can hurt their opposition. 

    Are well coached and can change their structures quickly and effectively. 

    Good front runners.

    Can take a game apart and be ruthless.

     

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      On 08/09/2018 at 07:35, big_red_fire_engine said:

    I do wonder about anyone who thinks Garlett would be a good in in a final. If Kent happened to become available it might make things interesting though. 

    I honestly don’t trust Kent’s body. He is constantly injured. Imagine taking him into a game and he goes down again in the first few minutes. It’s too risky. 

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      On 08/09/2018 at 09:23, 000 said:

    Wouldn't know who to drop. 

    Bernie Vince could be an in with his experience and possibly last games. He has a beautiful kick and we saw what experience can give with the example of Jordan.

    Another being Joel Smith who brings a little x-factor with his marking and flexibility to play back and forward,  though the step up with final pressure may be too much to expect. 

    Jay Kennedy-Harris for his pressure acts, run and ability to be in contest.

    We have some players who can cover if there are injuries.

    Yes - nice dilemma to have.

      On 08/09/2018 at 09:28, daisycutter said:

    no selwood staging charges? i'm surprised

    "no selwood staging charges? i'm surprised - really?"      

     No surprise whatsoever for me.

      On 08/09/2018 at 10:00, 000 said:

    I looked at their list and think they have 10 players who we should close down.

    Sicily, Impey, Burgoyne, O'mera, Mitchell, Isac Smith, Gunston, Breust, Puopolo and Roughhead.

     

     

    How about letting them worry about us?

    I would be concerned were we to get over negative.

      On 08/09/2018 at 10:08, CityDee said:

    Who’s home game is it? 

     

    As the higher end of season finisher I think it will be WhoreThorn's home game.

    Still, no clash that I could envisage so hopefully we will be wearing our real jumpers.

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      On 08/09/2018 at 10:39, pinkshark said:

    what is his personal win loss record?  Seems to be a winner more often than not.

    My impression is he gets to good spots when he hasn't the ball, to receive or to defend,,, and he has a go.  he positions to receive & relieve pressure from our ball carrier, and then spots targets.

    I don't understand his stats, but from what my eyes see, he's a beauty.

    Our forward half seems to function well when hes in.

     

      On 08/09/2018 at 10:47, 000 said:

    I think you asked did we have injuries. 

    Wouldn't know, just a punter.

    Hoping for no niggles.

    no, opposition.

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      On 08/09/2018 at 10:54, 000 said:

    I don't underestimate them. I was looking at their weaknesses.

    Hoping for a change of the guard.

    They control the ball well. 

    Have good outside runners.

    Good distribution of goal kickers.

    Fast movers of the ball.

    Good leg speed and endurance runners.

    A tough team that can hurt their opposition. 

    Are well coached and can change their structures quickly and effectively. 

    Good front runners.

    Can take a game apart and be ruthless.

     

    Yep I think a good match-up of sides.

    It'll be an interesting game.

    Roughy could trouble our defenders. clever.

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      On 08/09/2018 at 05:16, DubDee said:

    Tom Mitchell won't be getting much sleep this week!!

    viney, vanders, gus and Clarry will be waiting my little friend

    pretty close to the most over rated footballer in the comp

     

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      On 08/09/2018 at 11:17, Queanbeyan Demon said:

    pretty close to the most over rated footballer in the comp

     

    His only support are O'mera and Sheils, who I think are a bit soft and can easily be bundled away. Their inside players are all going to have nightmares. Don't forget Jetts and Hibbs when they are close to their 50. Or Traccs and Tom near our 50.

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      On 08/09/2018 at 10:13, old dee said:

    That is the Big one rjay. His kicking simply is not AFL standard. Anything beyond 30 metres is doubtful. He barely makes the distance when kicking for goal from 40 metres. 

    Puopolo ain't no big kick, either. Most small forwards aren't. Garlett could hardly crack 40 himself. Spargo gets the ball in good positions, his hands and vision are great, and for a kid with under 20 games, being the smallest on the ground, with no finals experience, he played like a 50 gamer with a flag under his belt.

    I see no reason why he should be dumped. And I don't understand the logic behind calls to.

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      On 08/09/2018 at 11:04, monoccular said:

    How about letting them worry about us?

    I would be concerned were we to get over negative.

    I was replying to a question from DV8.

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      On 08/09/2018 at 11:04, monoccular said:

    How about letting them worry about us? 

    I would be concerned were we to get over negative. 

     

      On 08/09/2018 at 11:34, 000 said:

    I was replying to a question from DV8.

    Now i see.  Not being negative mono. I just want us to show due respect and not get ahead and become the front runners of old. Arrogance is only an intruder.  Don't fall for that trap.

    respect allows us to be ready...  cockiness only leads to poor preparation & failure.

     

    Also we do not want to get 'too high', too far from the big game.  business as usual, this week.

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      On 08/09/2018 at 11:51, Ante_Up said:

    No change

    hunt no thanks

    garlett? I'll literally spew 

    HaHaHa, is that you terry?

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      On 08/09/2018 at 11:51, Ante_Up said:

    No change

    hunt no thanks

    garlett? I'll literally spew 

     

      On 08/09/2018 at 12:07, Ante_Up said:

    Who is terry?

    TWallace

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    I watched the whole match again on replay today.  

    Probably no change. 

    But Spargo did miss some tackles and contests.  Looks tired. 

    Love to have an inform Garlett right now 

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    We also have Cam Pederson if we need some height and a strong body.

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