MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - Round 16

[samcantstandya 966]

14 hours ago, 640MD said:

Like the Ins and outs,   hope Garlett gets his mojo back   and I think Petracca is very lucky that 5 changes would have seemed like panic stations.   Go Dees       fingers and legs crossed

I think u can add Melksham, Lewis, ANB & Jones 2 that list.

[drdrake 3,062]

Why can't a backman go in as your second ruck?

Most teams have a tall forward that goes in and try to catch sides out but going smaller up forward whilst ruckman rest usually on the bench.

Frost to ruck when the tall forward goes in, this keeps your forward structure.

The Ins, we picked players based on where we are playing and that is good.  Hopefully Kent has a ripping game at Casey next week, a forward line that has Spargo/Garlett/Kent it what we need

[shorty 233]

Good thing you guys aren't the FD, Wagner has played just 28 games, let's judge him at 50 , if he gets there. 

[Watts Jurrah Dunn? 735]

8 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

A few muddled mis-matches through the mid field early in the first quarter cost us one or two goals (like Hogan on Ablett where Ablett lost Hogan easily and ran into half forward at one point for the easy receive and goal) and the match against the Cats.  Maynard eventually went to Ablett for a short period mid way through the first and at least prevented him from causing any major damage while he was on.  Admittedly Maynard a big work in progress, especially kicking skills and lacks pace but his work rate / effort is there along with, contested/clearances and tackling.  The hip issue obviously a big set back.

Maynard is a delist.  We have 15 of his type, even if he does learn how to play footy.

1 hour ago, drysdale demon said:

So what you are saying is that you and others on this site know more than the football department, yeah sure pal.

Hahaha just because you're in the football department doesn't mean you're any good.  Have you thought that every MFC Football Department over the last 12 years have known what they were doing, because they must if they spend so much time with the players?   Spose Neeld knew best too did he?

Goodwin's selection mistakes have cost us 3 games this year.  Blind freddy could see Maynard and Wagner did nothing in the pre-season to justify a game against Geelong in what was an 8 point game.  The teams we selected against Port and St Kilda have been the biggest, slowest sides you could select, and to not play a quick crumbing forward when Richmond play a dozen of them raises some serious questions over the football department.

[Deemania since 56 6,329]

13 hours ago, D4Life said:

You meaning the glowing yellow muppets looking for their guide dogs!

The very ones, D4L, the very ones. At least we use words that are less offensive to the public to describe those miserable morons. ☺️

[PJ_12345 1,098]

59 minutes ago, timbo said:

Brilliant. I think this could have some mileage and become a game time ground entrance innovation. Players come onto the ground with the masks of their favourite GoT character donned. Or else, splashed across the banner.

Side 1: Frosty's namesake Night King.

Side 2: a combo "lower your eyes" and "don't be lazy" in font Comic Sans just to up the ante on the crazy

Whos John Snow??

[Smokey 4,212]

13 hours ago, binman said:

I can't understand how jeffy gets a game on the back of his vfl form. Watched tge second half last week and his effort was sub standard.

Squibbed at least two contests big time as well. 

Sends a strange message to players like bugg who bust a gut week in wdek out.

Can't understand what people see in Bugg. He gets a bit of footy but that's where it ends for mine. He's mostly wasteful in front of goal when it matters and simply speaking is certainly not in our best 22. He's not even in my best 30. He lost me when he made a decision to break someones jaw when they weren't looking. He can rot away in the VFL for the rest of his career for all I care because, aside from being a coward of a bloke, he simply isn't that good. He sits somewhere in between a good VFL player and a serviceable AFL player.      

At some point you have to strike a balance between rewarding effort and bringing in players with actual ability and more upside. Having a team full of people that try real hard at VFL level won't get us anywhere. At some point we need to bring in genuine ability. When Jeffy gets going we are a 2-3 goal better team. Bugg does not offer that whatsoever. 

 

[DeleteUser 638]

16 minutes ago, PJ_12345 said:

Whos John Snow??

I dunno, which player likes a bit of cave s3xy times with the allegedly feral free folk or having his lady fire arrows at him.

Or else burying himself under piles of dead bodies (aka opposition "stacks on" players). I'm not sure who I could see walking onto the ground with an ermine cloak. None of them are brooding enough.

[What 18,810]

13 hours ago, binman said:

I can't understand how jeffy gets a game on the back of his vfl form. Watched tge second half last week and his effort was sub standard.

S

All true,  but hes better at AFL level than VFL level and we are desperate for speed and a small forward.

[binman 39,542]

19 minutes ago, Smokey said:

Can't understand what people see in Bugg. He gets a bit of footy but that's where it ends for mine. He's mostly wasteful in front of goal when it matters and simply speaking is certainly not in our best 22. He's not even in my best 30. He lost me when he made a decision to break someones jaw when they weren't looking. He can rot away in the VFL for the rest of his career for all I care because, aside from being a coward of a bloke, he simply isn't that good. He sits somewhere in between a good VFL player and a serviceable AFL player.      

At some point you have to strike a balance between rewarding effort and bringing in players with actual ability and more upside. Having a team full of people that try real hard at VFL level won't get us anywhere. At some point we need to bring in genuine ability. When Jeffy gets going we are a 2-3 goal better team. Bugg does not offer that whatsoever. 

 

I wasn't advocating he be picked. Just that he puts in and jeffy has not at the VFL level.

I'm guessing jeffy was dropped because he was not putting enough forward pressure on - and his lack of goals would not have helped. From all reports his pressure in the VFL did not improve and he kicked few goals. So how does he get a gig?

Personally i like him in the side but as i say it sends a strange message to all players.  The message is usually get dropped, go back and work on the reasons and fight your way back. Look at how Vince played last week. Instrumental in the Casey win. Picking a player who coasts at VFL after being dropped contradicts that message.

And on another note i have to say calling Bugg a coward is well uncalled for.

[SFebes 4,748]

2 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

All true,  but hes better at AFL level than VFL level and we are desperate for speed and a small forward.

You should change your username to Petraccaslack, thoughts?

[binman 39,542]

2 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

All true,  but hes better at AFL level than VFL level and we are desperate for speed and a small forward.

Agree with that. Also he is the sort of player who plays better in the seniors than in lower levels. Which makes it strange why they dropped him in the first place. I guess there could have been other issues at play that lead to him being dropped

[DeleteUser 638]

3 minutes ago, SFebey said:

You should change your username to Petraccaslack, thoughts?

Flattracca

Or Flattraccattack

Edited July 6, 2018 by timbo

[SFebes 4,748]

1 minute ago, timbo said:

Flattracca

Or Flattraccattack

He'll be right, another pre season and he'll be our next Petrakermanis

[picket fence 15,773]

53 minutes ago, PJ_12345 said:

Whos John Snow??

One of the most lethal fast bowlers in history! Hit Terry Jenner on the head with a rip snorting bouncer once!

[What 18,810]

21 minutes ago, SFebey said:

You should change your username to Petraccaslack, thoughts?

I'm backing him in to finish the year strong as we make the finals.   Yeah hes in a poor patch of form but lets not forget hes played only 52 games and hes 22.     

Definitely needs to improve his tank this offseason though.   

[hank 23]

Earn your place in the team with good form does not apply any more now that Garlett has been selected. If the game was not in Darwin he would not be there. Everybody should know the reason why and it is not good form.

[Demon Dynasty 16,353]

1 hour ago, Watts Jurrah Dunn? said:

Maynard is a delist.  We have 15 of his type, even if he does learn how to play footy.

Not arguing that WJ.  Just saying what happened in part of the first quarter of the Cats match that cost us a few goals and quite possibly the match.

[Demon Dynasty 16,353]

1 hour ago, samcantstandya said:

I think u can add Melksham, Lewis, ANB & Jones 2 that list.

If only we had that sort of depth Sam! 

[SFebes 4,748]

3 minutes ago, hank said:

Earn your place in the team with good form does not apply any more now that Garlett has been selected. If the game was not in Darwin he would not be there. Everybody should know the reason why and it is not good form.

I can definitely see why people are peeved at this, it sure does raise some eyebrows and I wonder what sort of message it sends to others, even Petty v Frost and Keilty etc, there have been a few examples this year.

I for one am in the we need Garlett camp and I hope he rips it up and kicks a bag, we are a better side with him in. A bad season for Garlett may be 30-35 goals, I can take his bad traits as he hits the scoreboard and is a match winner.

[Smokey 4,212]

33 minutes ago, binman said:

I wasn't advocating he be picked. Just that he puts in and jeffy has not at the VFL level.

I'm guessing jeffy was dropped because he was not putting enough forward pressure on - and his lack of goals would not have helped. From all reports his pressure in the VFL did not improve and he kicked few goals. So how does he get a gig?

Personally i like him in the side but as i say it sends a strange message to all players.  The message is usually get dropped, go back and work on the reasons and fight your way back. Look at how Vince played last week. Instrumental in the Casey win. Picking a player who coasts at VFL after being dropped contradicts that message.

And on another note i have to say calling Bugg a coward is well uncalled for.

What would you call a bloke that breaks someone's jaw with a punch when they aren't looking? Coward is one of the nicer words I'd use 

[beelzebub 22,719]

Regards Jeffy. A surprising selection to say the least.

It's often put that players are sent back to work on areas and refine their role. Maybe Jeff has. It might just not appear it to us.

Maybe it's last chance saloon ?

Maybe the FD is simply desperate for someone to do something ....other than play Superman in the fwd line ?

Maybe it's all of the above ?

[Demon Dynasty 16,353]

12 hours ago, kevin martin said:

Tyson could find it difficult to get back in team.
 

Barring injury to Tracc, Jones i can't see him returning either KM.  The only spot i can see him in is Melk's if he doesn't lift (or out injured).

[Demon Dynasty 16,353]

5 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Regards Jeffy. A surprising selection to say the least.

It's often put that players are sent back to work on areas and refine their role. Maybe Jeff has. It might just not appear it to us.

Maybe it's last chance saloon ?

Maybe the FD is simply desperate for someone to do something ....other than play Superman in the fwd line ?

Maybe it's all of the above ?

Spargo one side and Jeffy on the other with big bodies of Hulk and T-Mac crashing and contesting.  Tasty pickings for the speedy craftwork of an AFL quality crumber and finisher Bz!  He ain't bad over the first 10 meters and finding space on the lead either.  Only issue here is, is there anyone other than Fritsch capable of hitting?  Maybe Stretch & Melk (in horrible form though).

FD will no doubt want him to bring the defensive stuff but 2 to 3 goals along with some ground ball clean ups and creative involvements nearer the goal face would probably get him a solid pass!

[binman 39,542]

20 minutes ago, Smokey said:

What would you call a bloke that breaks someone's jaw with a punch when they aren't looking? Coward is one of the nicer words I'd use 

Sure it was a cowardly action. The distinction i'd make is as far as i am aware it is the only time he has he has hit someone like that. If he does it gain i'll be the first to agree he is coward

Leigh Matthews was a coward.