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A close friend of mine knows Pert through being in the CFC coterie and personally before that. Some of the stories about that period at the filth are interesting to say the least. I'd like to think that he now feels like h has a point to prove and has learned from errors in the past.

I did not see this coming.

The mail doing the rounds is that PJ was shut out of the process, to the extent that he'd sought to background some scribes around town of the discontent amongst some with how the process was unfolding. 

That could prove to be apocryphal.

In any case, I'm willing to back in Bartlet's judgement until proven otherwise

 

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4 hours ago, hemingway said:

We may well find that the internal candidates who missed out would be considering their options. They may have to wait another 5 or more years for another opportunity at MFC.  That’s a lifetime these days. Perfect opportunity for another club to chase Mahoney.  Collingwood?  Eddie would love the [censored] for tat. 

The interesting thing about this situation is that everyone thought there was a PJ succession plan for an internal candidate. How come then there were 3 internal candidates not just one?  So if an internal  PJ candidate had got it there would have been 2 that missed out and be looking elsewhere anyway.  

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4 hours ago, Biffen said:

After getting Harry O and Mark Neeld from Collingwood what could possibly go wrong.

 

3 hours ago, SFebey said:

Dawes, Ben Kennedy.....

Jason Taylor ?

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10 minutes ago, the rolling fog said:

A close friend of mine knows Pert through being in the CFC coterie and personally before that. Some of the stories about that period at the filth are interesting to say the least. I'd like to think that he now feels like h has a point to prove and has learned from errors in the past.

I did not see this coming.

The mail doing the rounds is that PJ was shut out of the process, to the extent that he'd sought to background some scribes around town of the discontent amongst some with how the process was unfolding. 

That could prove to be apocryphal.

In any case, I'm willing to back in Bartlet's judgement until proven otherwise

 

We look forward. PJ has done his job magnificently and is always welcome to attend MFC functions. Pert has been head hunted as the best replacement...

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There was rumours of a rift between Jackson & Bartlett a year or so back.

I just hope Bartlett's ego is not getting the better of him here.

Melbourne Presidents don't have a good record of appointments.

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Posted
6 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Thanks. Membership exploded whilst Pert was there. 

Exactly what we need, from that we get exposure and better fixtures. 

To grow you must take carefully planned risks. Some may fail, but the wins can be huge. 

 

I'll reserve my judgment on this until I hear more, but I will say this...

Beware fool's gold.

Pert may have experience "growing Collingwood's membership numbers" but it was an issue of converting a largely dormant supporter base into paid up members. MFC is very different proposition, where our much smaller supporter base has a relatively high conversion rate.

The experience setting up a new training venue will be valuable, although it may be more difficult without Eddie pulling so many political strings and making use of his conflicting roles to the clubs advantage (Athletics Victoria, for instance).

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4 minutes ago, rjay said:

There was rumours of a rift between Jackson & Bartlett a year or so back.

I just hope Bartlett's ego is not getting the better of him here.

Melbourne Presidents don't have a good record of appointments.

It was AFL endorsed, that’s all that matters and beyond Bartlett imo 

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4 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

 

I'll reserve my judgment on this until I hear more, but I will say this...

Beware fool's gold.

Pert may have experience "growing Collingwood's membership numbers" but it was an issue of converting a largely dormant supporter base into paid up members. MFC is very different proposition, where our much smaller supporter base has a relatively high conversion rate.

The experience setting up a new training venue will be valuable, although it may be more difficult without Eddie pulling so many political strings and making use of his conflicting roles to the clubs advantage (Athletics Victoria, for instance).

Didn’t they bring in a heap of pet memberships around that time also?

Posted
14 minutes ago, Chook in Perth said:

Yarra Park training and admin base. Near Jolimont station. Lock it in, er, Perty

That would be a great outcome for those of us in the northern suburbs

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Posted
37 minutes ago, SFebey said:

It was AFL endorsed, that’s all that matters and beyond Bartlett imo 

Dill's AFL is a little bit flakey for me, I don't put a lot of store in their acumen.

For all his short comings AD did have a clue...

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8 minutes ago, rjay said:

Dill's AFL is a little bit flakey for me, I don't put a lot of store in their acumen.

For all his short comings AD did have a clue...

Good point and agree, Gil should just [censored] off, game has deteriorated since he came in and too many changes 

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1 hour ago, Mach5 said:

 

I'll reserve my judgment on this until I hear more, but I will say this...

Beware fool's gold.

Pert may have experience "growing Collingwood's membership numbers" but it was an issue of converting a largely dormant supporter base into paid up members. MFC is very different proposition, where our much smaller supporter base has a relatively high conversion rate.

The experience setting up a new training venue will be valuable, although it may be more difficult without Eddie pulling so many political strings and making use of his conflicting roles to the clubs advantage (Athletics Victoria, for instance).

We have a huge dormant supporter base.Stop thinking we are a small club forever. This is great timing, My respect for Bartlett has just risen substantially. He has had a long term since he arrived  (New York Yankees) I have wondered whether phase 2 would happen. 


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2 hours ago, the rolling fog said:

A close friend of mine knows Pert through being in the CFC coterie and personally before that. Some of the stories about that period at the filth are interesting to say the least. I'd like to think that he now feels like h has a point to prove and has learned from errors in the past.

I did not see this coming.

The mail doing the rounds is that PJ was shut out of the process, to the extent that he'd sought to background some scribes around town of the discontent amongst some with how the process was unfolding. 

That could prove to be apocryphal.

In any case, I'm willing to back in Bartlet's judgement until proven otherwise

 

I'm smelling an AFL push around these matters. 

Ans since PJ was saying he would stay on 12 months if necessary, to mentor the incumbent.  Now it seems October is the deadline?

Somewhow I don't feel like this, is all our boards walk?

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16 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

You've got to love a bitter Mick Malthouse taking pot shots at Pert already, claiming they never really 'got along', although you would believe that Pert wouldn't be the first or the last person not to get along with angry Mick.  

As I said to my old man, I'd be worried if Malthouse had endorsed Pert. I remember what happened the last time he endorsed someone that came to our club from Collingwood. The bloke is a doddering old gronk. 

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Posted
8 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Just found these tweets.  It seems Tom Browne has backtracked a bit on his comment about our President 'thumbing his nose' at Jackson:

 

And

So last night's media ooh, aah stuff was probably just a knee jerk reaction to give themselves something to write about as they missed the scoop.  Today, wiser heads prevail

Or someone at AFL House said "settle down, Tom".

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Posted
9 hours ago, red and blue forever said:

I am sure "Keeping your nose out of the footy department" would have been one of the first criteria stated to pert when interviewing him for the job...

 

What gives you such confidence? The history of our board ensuring such? And backing in the footy department when meddling has occurred?

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Talk of PJ being ‘shut out’ of, or unhappy with the process might be ‘fugazi’ or there may be some substance.  I don't know. 

But before we get hung up about it, it is worth looking at a typical Executive Search process - Bartlett/Board engages Russell Reynolds who use their network to identify, interview and profile candidates from which a short list is compiled to give to Barlett.  He (and nominees eg another Board member, AFL rep) choose which to interview and who to recommend to the Board.  The process happens at RR premises or other neutral venues.

RR would have strict confidentiality protocols precluding them from discussing candidates/short list with anyone outside this process (and certainly not with the boss or referee of a candidate). 

So on a rational level I can see how the process by its nature, excludes an incumbent CEO/boss of multiple candidates ie PJ, from the loop. 

I can also see all sorts of things that may displease a candidate or PJ during that process but I would only be speculating to write them here.

However, on an emotional level, if I was in PJ’s shoes I would desperately want to have a say in who takes over the care of my ‘foster child’ and push for ‘my guy’ or 'guys' to carry on my work.   Which of course is exactly why independent executive search firms are engaged.

It would be a very sad day,  if PJ was to leave us on a downer as he deserves to go in a blaze of glory.   So I will assume the talk of him not being happy is just 'fugazi'. 

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During PJ's time the President and board have pretty much remained in the background.

This year they have had to tick off on 3 big calls...selling off poker machine money, selecting a new CEO and developing a new home base.

I'm sure many share my trepidation as previous boards/presidents don't imbue me with confidence but with these decisions best of 3 won't win.

All 3 must be winners.

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