Andrew Gaff

[Jaded No More 68,855]

23 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

Is it a little strange he's flown to Melbourne for the hearing when they could've held it in Perth via video conference or with local Tribunal judges? Wonder if he's planning to visit some of the Brayshaw family to apologise in person.

I think it's good that he has flown in, he isn't playing this week, so why not fly in and actually front up to what you did. It's admirable, and honestly I hope he goes in there, apologises, says what he did was inexcusable, cops his whack and moves on. 

If West Coast go in there with all guns blazing trying to defend his actions, I'll spew. 

Cop it, deal with it, show remorse, move on.

(Might also be down here to spend time with family, as he is clearly going to be out for a long time)

 

[Sir Why You Little 36,954]

24 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Did anyone hear Mathew Pavlich’s comments about Nisbett? Heard on the radio he had a good old dig at Trev about Gaff and Brayshaw never actually meeting let alone playing ?️‍

Where can i access that Zeph?

[Demonland 71,254]

25 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Did anyone hear Mathew Pavlich’s comments about Nisbett? Heard on the radio he had a good old dig at Trev about Gaff and Brayshaw never actually meeting let alone playing ?️‍

Here's the tweet. Note the golf emoji.

 

[Demonland 71,254]

Just now, Sir Why You Little said:

Where can i access that Zeph?

See above this post.

[Sir Why You Little 36,954]

1 minute ago, Demonland said:

Here's the tweet. Note the golf emoji.

 

Wow Nisbett is all over the shop, if that is correct. 

Meth Coke don’t care what they say. Never have

us against them

[Sir Why You Little 36,954]

6 minutes ago, Demonland said:

See above this post.

The comments underneath are worth a read to. 

 

[Willmoy1947 4,080]

4 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Wow Nisbett is all over the shop, if that is correct. 

Meth Coke don’t care what they say. Never have

us against them

With that if true, snowflake's chance in hell of him being there next year........

[Sir Why You Little 36,954]

1 minute ago, willmoy said:

With that if true, snowflake's chance in hell of him being there next year........

If a CEO is prepared to lie blatantly at a press conference over such a delicate matter (if Pavich is right) then it just shows how Meth Coke operate. 

Maybe Nesbitt should be asked to leave as well

Such a lack of respect. Imagine dealing business with him

[SaberFang 7,151]

Wait, so Brayshaw and Gaff never played golf and Nisbett made the whole thing up? Story gets more bizarre all the time.

And that comment from 'Ralphy' is absolute tripe. The media don't "get their shot and move on." Would've been an absolute circus with media speeding down the freeway tailgating Gaff's getaway car, filming him from their windows, filming him checking into his hotel, filming him through his hotel window, filming him leaving his hotel, filming him arriving at the Tribunal, filming him leaving the Tribunal, film him returning to his hotel... and on and on and on and on and on and...

His outrage that police and security are more concerned about protecting the thousands of passengers at the airport to, you know, catch a flight safely, rather than help a bunch of gutter-level vultures swamp a football player in the terminal, sums up the character of Australian "journalism."

[jnrmac 20,053]

Tom Bugg is the anti-Christ compared to Andrew Gaff or so it would seem from the comparative media coverage....

Edited August 7, 2018 by jnrmac

[Demonland 71,254]

Media Wars

 

[DV8 2,271]

54 minutes ago, Maxwell Edison MD said:

The more times I see the incident, the more I agree. Shouldn't of run off though, panic I suppose. 

H wouldn't have been aware of the damage.

[Diamond_Jim 12,520]

1 minute ago, jnrmac said:

Tom Bugg is the anti-Christ compared to Andrew Gaff or so it would seem from the comparative media coverage....

and did you expect anything else.

Young Saad gets done for 18 months for an energy drink on match day that is completely legal the day before and the day after (rules are rules say the media) and yet we have the Bomber victims.

Unfortunately it won't change while the media is itself an extension of the good guy footballer club.

 

[Sir Why You Little 36,954]

3 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Media Wars

 

Cool. Start throwing Barbs boys......

[Ethan Tremblay 30,818]

I think Gaff’s arrival into Melbourne and the way he was moved on was planned and handled very well. Sucked in trash media. 

[SFebes 4,884]

7 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Media Wars

 

Manure and Ralph are two of the worst, along with Stevens. Not that I follow them these days. I often hear Manure on SEN breaking a news story that had already been broken and they make a big deal of him. Cringeworthy.

[Sir Why You Little 36,954]

2 minutes ago, MSFebey said:

Manure and Ralph are two of the worst, along with Stevens. Not that I follow them these days. I often hear Manure on SEN breaking a news story that had already been broken and they make a big deal of him. Cringeworthy.

The Eagles are obviously happy to open a fat wallet. 

The Bill for this charade would not come cheap. 

I am more interested in what Pavlich had to say, and so should the media

[What 18,810]

12 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Media Wars

 

 

#teamcampbell

[SFebes 4,884]

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The Eagles are obviously happy to open a fat wallet. 

The Bill for this charade would not come cheap. 

I am more interested in what Pavlich had to say, and so should the media

They're a powerful club WCE. Was Nisbett at WCE when the drugs fiasco etc played out?

[Demonland 71,254]

2 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

 

#teamcampbell

Agree. Just because he works in the media doesn't mean he can't speak his mind about the media.

[Sir Why You Little 36,954]

2 minutes ago, MSFebey said:

They're a powerful club WCE. Was Nisbett at WCE when the drugs fiasco etc played out?

I think so, but not sure. 

Did he leave and come back? He seems to have been there since 1987!!

[Diamond_Jim 12,520]

8 minutes ago, MSFebey said:

They're a powerful club WCE. Was Nisbett at WCE when the drugs fiasco etc played out?

Trevor Nisbett

Achievements:  Football manager West Coast Eagles 1989-99; chief executive officer 1999-present; Service Award for 10 years’ service to West Coast 1999; Australian Sports Medal for service to Australian Football 2000; awarded inaugural AFL Graeme Samuel Scholarship 2003; life member West Coast Eagles Football Club 2004; West Coast Eagles board member 2002-present; AFL life member 2013

http://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/news/2014-08-09/trevor-nisbett

[McQueen 17,864]

5 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I think so, but not sure. 

Did he leave and come back? He seems to have been there since 1987!!

Have you even stopped to eat or sleep since this incident took place?

[chookrat 4,247]

1 hour ago, mrjonesandme said:

Gaff deserves some leniency.

It is not at all clear that he intended to strike Brayshaw in the head. And, Brayshaw's head naturally lowered at the time Gaff went to strike - Brayshaw's knees bent and he lowered his head slightly. 

I think it is plausible at this stage that Gaff's intention was to whack him in the upper body. 

I think his good record is a relevant consideration in understanding the offence.

 

I feel sympathy for Gaff while at the same time believe a significant penalty is in order if the AFL is serious about head injuries and assault. What I think should happen:

1.  Gaff should be suspended for a minimum 12 games, on the basis that he can demonstrate that he intended to hit AB in the body and not the head. If the Tribunal rules it was intentional then I think 12 month ban is appropriate. Saying this I dont view Gaff as a coward or gutless or any of these things, but rather a good player with a solid reputation who did something really silly that he would massively regret. 

2.  AFL must suspend any player who punches another player deliberately whether clenched fist or open palm and to the head, chest, stomach etc for at least 1 game. This action should have no place on the football field, can result in incidents like the Houli, Bugg and Gaff hits, and sets a terrible example to juniors.

Hearing about people whos lives have been affected by being hit in the head has toughened my stance on this and its not to punish Gaff but to use this as an opportunity to change atitudes re head injuries caused by assaults.

Football is dangerous enough without players punching each other off the ball.

[Sir Why You Little 36,954]

6 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Have you even stopped to eat or sleep since this incident took place?

What happens in Thailand, stays in Thailand Steve