1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

If and when Gaff plays AFL again, he will be a marked man. Players and Coaches now know that he has a breaking point. 

Like Jim O’dea 46 years ago this will not be forgotten. What Tom Bugg did was bad, but nowhere near as bad as what happened yesterday. 

Gaff knew exactly where his fist was going to land. 

He may need a new career 

Gaff was a marked man yesterday after the hit and he took it all on the chin and still walked off the ground with his head down. 

12 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

How can Adam Simpson come out and say he’s not sure that was an intentional hit? 

David King interviewed Gaff in the rooms and asked if it was a brain fade or an accident. Gaff didn’t make any excuses in reply, said he will be dealt with during the week.

What is the umpire signalling in the video? Surely not play on. Has he got tunnel vision?

 

 

19 minutes ago, Deevout said:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/clearly-it-is-an-assault-case-for-gaff-to-face-the-law-says-galbally-20180806-p4zvpv.html

Lots of talk about criminal charges for Gaff. It reinforces to me we can all have a moment of madness and what the consequences could be if you do.

To this point, after the game yesterday on the 2nd deck of the Southern Stand there were 2 Melbourne supporters involved in a push and shove and throwing verbal abuse at each other. They would have been in their 50’s. 

Not sure how it started but you’d think they would both be asking themselves later how did they get into that situation?  How could they make such fools of themselves?  What if things had gotten out of hand?

There’s a few ‘moments of madness’ that I’ve been involved in that I’m not proud of, but luckily no lasting impact on anyone else.

Passion, emotion, excitement, bravado and a whole bunch of other human foibles can result in situations that we regret and wish we could take back.  

Just give him his 10 weeks and move on.

6 minutes ago, MurDoc516 said:

Gaff was a marked man yesterday after the hit and he took it all on the chin and still walked off the ground with his head down. 

It wasn't Gaff that took it on the chin. Many posters here are almost condoning Gaff's thuggery. My real symphathy goes to the entire Brayshaw family. Hope this incident doesn't stop Angus from showing us his real talent.

On 8/5/2018 at 10:45 AM, ProDee said:

How confident are you he'll be a Dee next year ?

90% going on accuracy of previous mail.

I’m assured we’re not paying $1.2 or giving up any talent.

 

2 minutes ago, Bobby McKenzie said:

It wasn't Gaff that took it on the chin. Many posters here are almost condoning Gaff's thuggery. My real symphathy goes to the entire Brayshaw family. Hope this incident doesn't stop Angus from showing us his real talent.

Why would Angus be affected or do you mean Andrew?

I'm not saying what Gaff did isn't serious or he should get off. I'm just not prepared to call someone who has been a nice level headed guy for his entire career a thug or question his character because of a brain snap. It's how he reacts to this and by all accounts so far you see the remorse. 

I also share symphathy for the Brayshaw family.

14 minutes ago, MurDoc516 said:

Gaff was a marked man yesterday after the hit and he took it all on the chin and still walked off the ground with his head down. 

Yesterday is only the beginning. 

I am sure Brayshaw felt a lot worse

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Yesterday is only the beginning. 

I am sure Brayshaw felt a lot worse

I don't think Brayshaw and Gaff shared the same emotions. 

I don't think AFL teams are going to go after Gaff who only has ever snapped once in 200 games. Nor by the time he plays again anyone will remember/care. 

AFL legend Leigh Matthews says Andrew Gaff will be ‘mortally wounded for the rest of his life’

https://thewest.com.au/sport/west-coast-eagles/afl-legend-leigh-matthews-says-andrew-gaff-will-be-mortally-wounded-for-the-rest-of-his-life-ng-b88918880z

4 minutes ago, MurDoc516 said:

I don't think Brayshaw and Gaff shared the same emotions. 

I don't think AFL teams are going to go after Gaff who only has ever snapped once in 200 games. Nor by the time he plays again anyone will remember/care. 

I think you are wrong. Players will remember and they will care. Many a tagging job has been given out, and Gaff cracked in a big way. 

The next Derby will be very heavy if Gaff lines up for Meth Coke

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I think you are wrong. Players will remember and they will care. Many a tagging job has been given out, and Gaff cracked in a big way. 

The next Derby will be very heavy if Gaff lines up for Meth Coke

That's fine, but what happens when Gaff doesn't react like he has done every other game of his career. Waste of time and energy.

Just now, MurDoc516 said:

That's fine, but what happens when Gaff doesn't react like he has done every other game of his career. Waste of time and energy.

He doesn’t have to react. The verbals will remind him

He doesn’t have to lash out again. Footsteps from behind could well play on his mind

Looking at the pictures of Brayshaw, you've just got to feel for the poor kid, he would've been scared and in agony. Poor mum has had her worries with the boys.

I got king hit once on the footy field in my short career.  Suffered a broken nose and a cracked wrist when I fell. The culprit later apologised and we got on fine after that. Everyone’s different but who knows how this will pan out.

Edited August 6, 20186 yr by america de cali

I don't know if it's been mentioned earlier in this thread but in my opinion it's pretty clear that the swinging arm was directed at Brayshaws chest but right at that moment when Gaff started the swing, Brayshaw dipped enough that he weared it flush in the mouth. I expect this to be argued in his defence.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was the knuckle on the index finger that did the damage either as the fist would've struck more from that side of the hand.

one of the options discussed a week or so ago is that the penalty includes at least one week against the team whom the incident happened against.

i.e 6 weeks and a week when the Derby rolls around again.

Edited August 6, 20186 yr by Damo

1 minute ago, McQueen said:

I don't know if it's been mentioned earlier in this thread but in my opinion it's pretty clear that the swinging arm was directed at Brayshaws chest but right at that moment when Gaff started the swing, Brayshaw dipped enough that he weared it flush in the mouth. I expect this to be argued in his defence.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was the knuckle on the index finger that did the damage either as the fist would've struck more from that side of the hand.

Doubt there will be a defence. With Gaff's record and the past incident being similar in weeks he will plead guilty and apologise and take 6-7 weeks. I agreed with Bartel and Lloyd, i don't think the AFL would want him to potentially play in a GF after this incident so 8 weeks down to 7 with a good record is my guess.

27 minutes ago, MurDoc516 said:

I don't think Brayshaw and Gaff shared the same emotions. 

 

I am sure they didn’t. 

Brayshaw will recover in time, but he will know the inside of a dental surgery intimately. 

Gaff will be haunted and reminded of what he did, in his own mind and by others regularly 

So, given all of that, do we still want him?

8 minutes ago, MurDoc516 said:

Doubt there will be a defence. With Gaff's record and the past incident being similar in weeks he will plead guilty and apologise and take 6-7 weeks. I agreed with Bartel and Lloyd, i don't think the AFL would want him to potentially play in a GF after this incident so 8 weeks down to 7 with a good record is my guess.

Not a defence as such but a view that he didn't mean to knock his teeth out should be put forward.

11 minutes ago, Damo said:

one of the options discussed a week or so ago is that the penalty includes at least one week against the team whom the incident happened against.

i.e 6 weeks and a week when the Darby rolls around again.

Bad. Im sure the freo boys would want him out there... they were trying to kill him after the incident.

1 minute ago, buck_nekkid said:

So, given all of that, do we still want him?

He's an elite footballer.

We're in the business of winning premierships.

He will help that cause.

I still want him.

1 minute ago, McQueen said:

Not a defence as such but a view that he didn't mean to knock his teeth out should be put forward.

The fact that he ran away from Brayshaw after the hit, won’t look good in any hearing. 

You think he missed, i don’t

So I guess a couple of questions remain unanswered which are of more interest to us:

1. Has Gaffs price tag just gone down?

2. Will the club keep pursuing him considering the image it will have on the club?

I still want him.

Edited August 6, 20186 yr by MSFebey