2 hours ago, Akum said:

Lever and ... ? Do you still think Gaff?

We still have to satisfy both clubs. I can't see, the way things stand at the moment, how we can satisfy both clubs.

If we can get pick 6 for Watts & pick 10, we might be able to add it to a third rounder for Lever and save a second rounder. But a mid-second-rounder won't be enough for Gaff, and apart from Hogan, I can't see who we've got that WCE would want. Kent and a second rounder is unders for Gaff.

If you wait one more year we can l presume get Gaff for much less,a high 2nd round pick l think. iTS WORTH THE WAIT.

1 hour ago, Demon Premonition said:

Effectively Watts, pick 10 and a third rounder for Lever. Pass

No he meant Watts(third rd) + pick 10 for Lever as an overall trade

Watts should not be traded. 

Popular clubman.  Loves the Dees. Loyal through tough times.

6’5 forward. Agile. Skilled.  Averages 1.7 goals 6 marks 16 disposals 3 tackles.  

Kicked the winner v Pies in QB game. 

 

Edited September 30, 20178 yr by spirit of norm smith
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We have lots of popular clubmen,we need currency know matter what even if we only get a 3rd rounder for him. Secondly if that's all he is worth then there is no great loss.

7 hours ago, jackaub said:

He should Pizz off back to the media 

It is not his place to comment

??

Commenting is precisely what the media's job is.

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Watts should not be traded. 

Popular clubman.  Loves the Dees. Loyal through tough times.

6’5 forward. Agile. Skilled.  Averages 1.7 goals 6 marks 16 disposals 3 tackles.  

Kicked the winner v Pies in QB game. 

 

Dropped from pre-season matches because of poor pre-season form and attitude.

Dropped to Casey for poor form/attitude.

Also ended the previous season at Casey due to poor form/attitude. 

2 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Watts should not be traded. 

Popular clubman.  Loves the Dees. Loyal through tough times.

6’5 forward. Agile. Skilled.  Averages 1.7 goals 6 marks 16 disposals 3 tackles.  

Kicked the winner v Pies in QB game. 

 

I agree. But fact is he's gone.Goody wants him gone. And if the coach doesn't want him, he's unlikely to want to change.

30 minutes ago, Akum said:

I agree. But fact is he's gone.Goody wants him gone. And if the coach doesn't want him, he's unlikely to want to change.

Think you'll find decisions like this aren't just made by the coach, but would involve the whole FD, even up to Board Level (depending on the player and other considerations)

3 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Watts should not be traded. 

Popular clubman.  Loves the Dees. Loyal through tough times.

6’5 forward. Agile. Skilled.  Averages 1.7 goals 6 marks 16 disposals 3 tackles.  

Kicked the winner v Pies in QB game. 

 

How do you think he would stand up in a grand final... 

Not worried if he is traded.

Not a rumour... But I think Connor Menadue would be a great get.

Quick, tall outside player and can win his own ball. Has x-factor. 3 years in the system and only 21.

10 minutes ago, Dee tention said:

Not a rumour... But I think Connor Menadue would be a great get.

Quick, tall outside player and can win his own ball. Has x-factor. 3 years in the system and only 21.

Next year's tigers will be this years bulldogs.

2 hours ago, bing181 said:

Dropped from pre-season matches because of poor pre-season form and attitude.

Dropped to Casey for poor form/attitude.

Also ended the previous season at Casey due to poor form/attitude. 

Negative. these are the facts 

Watts had a strong first 12-13 weeks.

Hurts hamstring v Bulldogs. 

Misses 3 weeks.  Has to come back due to MFC  slump.  

Gets dropped for 2 games. 

Named in best 5 in final game v Pies. One of very few who could hold his head up. 

Not sure why he is trade bait??? Salary??? Salem & Tyson would be ahead of Watts in my traceable suggestions. 

57 minutes ago, faultydet said:

Next year's tigers will be this years bulldogs.

Right now i don't think any of them would care all too much.

Watts is gone because well get something for him now but nothing in 2, years. Also he's contracted so the club holds the aces. Grow up folks this game is about Premierships. Even the players are over Watts. Popular clubman my arse

Aren't footy clubs sacred institutions anymore?  Watts veins flow red and blue

yes we all belong to an institution following them for as many yrs as we have but reallY, ask him!  does he really want to be at the club next year and beyond?  And why?

if he says no then fine (tells you something we already know may still be a very open wound at our footy club) , if he says yes then says something about his belief and his spirit in yanking us up the ladder.   Our chains have been pulled for a many yrs granted but let's get on with it and who the [censored] knows;  a reasonable draw, way fewer injuries than we copped up the ?️‍? this yr and some good depth on our list most certainly, lets see how we fare.  Salem is tradable at this point foR mine.   We know Goodies has his mates  and still persists with Vince for e.g. But don't throw the baby out with the bath water in JackW just yet

8 hours ago, Is Dom Is Good said:

I'm happy with it. He sets standards and what he wants a player to put in. The crows have zero top 10 picks and they are in a Grand Final. They've built that on club culture which trumps talent every day of the week.

Technically true, but a bit deceptive.  They have a player who went ahead of the no. 1 pick in Crouch (taken outside the draft as a 17 year old through the GWS startup concessions) and Tex Walker who was a zone pick and again taken outside the draft.  Tom Lynch was a first round pick, as were Lever and Talia.  They also have a number of developing first round players who were not played today. 

3 hours ago, Cards13 said:

How do you think he would stand up in a grand final... 

Not worried if he is traded.

Watts would stand up in a GF.

WATCH THE 2017 QB GAME !!

Kicks straight. Finds targets. Does not over possess the footy. 

 

8 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Watts would stand up in a GF.

WATCH THE 2017 QB GAME !!

Kicks straight. Finds targets. Does not over possess the footy. 

 

It's a shame the people rarely describe Jack as having a ferocious attack on the ball, or as a manic tackler or even committed to the contest. 

He'd need to change his spots to be able to be an asset in a final or GF. 

Edited September 30, 20178 yr by PaulRB

7 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Watts should not be traded. 

Popular clubman.  Loves the Dees. Loyal through tough times.

6’5 forward. Agile. Skilled.  Averages 1.7 goals 6 marks 16 disposals 3 tackles.  

Kicked the winner v Pies in QB game. 

 

NEELD CRUCIFIED WATTS  AND GOODWIN HASN'T HELPED HIS CASE BY not picking him in the practice games  at the start of the season . However Goodwin  went one better and dropped him for poor form when there were worse players than Watts. now he doesn't want him????????????????? Could not help but think that this drama is not going to help our team morale. hmmmmmmm.

 

26 minutes ago, PaulRB said:

It's a shame the people rarely never describe Jack as having a ferocious attack on the ball, or as a manic tackler or even committed to the contest. 

He'd need to change his spots to be able to be an asset in a final or GF. 

The last 9 years proves he just doesnt have it in him to be a contested beast. When other players tackle, Jack prefers a nice cuddle.

Marshmallows are harder.

Beautiful kick, but thats not enough for the coaches any more.

He finds hunger for the contest or he finds a new home. Thats just the way it is.

Bout time.

 

3 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Watts would stand up in a GF.

WATCH THE 2017 QB GAME !!

Kicks straight. Finds targets. Does not over possess the footy.

You are comparing a QB game to a grand final...lol

3 hours ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

You are comparing a QB game to a grand final...lol

It's our grand final.... 

I only hope that the concept of trading either Watts or Hogan (both of whom have been mentioned) is sounded out with our major sponsors in case there are ramifications! ?

27 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

It's our grand final.... 

it's a home and away game worth 4 points, not a grand final, nor a final. Calling the QG game our GF needs to be a thing of the past.

3 minutes ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

it's a home and away game worth 4 points, not a grand final, nor a final. Calling the QG game our GF needs to be a thing of the past.

Wasn't being serious...