Trade rumours

[Redleg 41,717]

1 hour ago, Nasher said:

Ess: Francis & 23 for Stringer & 27

Adel: Cameron & 16 for Francis & 12

Dogs: Stringer & 27 for Schache & 23

Lions: Schache & 12 for Cameron & 16

Seems reasonable but a lot of stuffing around with small position shuffles. I reckon the four club reps would have walked away happy but with headaches trying to keep track of all that!

Pity if true that we couldn't get Schache. 

2 minutes ago, CBDees said:

It might suit both us and Geelong though.

If Cats get high compo for Motlop say 21, they will offer it to us for Watts and keep 20.

[Gator 17,608]

6 minutes ago, martin said:

I came away with the completely opposite view.

I find that extraordinary.

What did he specifically say for you to form that view ?

I'm sure you'll remember, otherwise you wouldn't be so certain.

Thanks.

[DeeZee 7,445]

It's going to depend on what compensation pick they get for Motlop

[Gator 17,608]

1 minute ago, Redleg said:

Pity if true that we couldn't get Schache. 

What have you seen in Schache that you like ?

[Wiseblood 24,637]

I'd be interested in Schache if the Lions were happy with a second round pick, but I doubt we're all that keen.  We've got Weideman waiting in the wings to play alongside Hogan, plus the addition of Lever means there is a higher chance of Tom McDonald playing forward as well.

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

2 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

It's going to depend on what compensation pick they get for Motlop

The Cats compensation will either be start of second round or end of second round, based on the rumoured contract to Motlop.

Will be interesting what the cats do. I assume Cats will use that pick on Ablett not Watts

 

[DeeZee 7,445]

3 minutes ago, Unleash Hell said:

The Cats compensation will either be start of second round or end of second round, based on the rumoured contract to Motlop.

Will be interesting what the cats do. I assume Cats will use that pick on Ablett not Watts

 

Yes , and I think this is the dilemma the cats face, Ablett, Watts or Stringer

[Redleg 41,717]

Just now, ProDee said:

What have you seen in Schache that you like ?

Saw a few games he played and went through his highlights on you tube. 

He is young 20, big and strong 199cm and 96 kgs. Clearly has done the gym work looking at his guns. Has a good straight kick. Knows how to lead and does. Reasonable hands in the marking contest. Was a number 2 draft pick only 2 years ago. Has his best footy in front of him. Could also in time do a bit of ruck work as relieving 2nd ruck. He will be cheap as that mooted trade shows. 

Downside is some emotional issues that hopefully can be overcome now that he is back in Victoria and with some assistance. 

If Hogan leaves or tMac as a FA or Weid fails to come on, he would be there. Pedo will be gone in a year as well.  

I just see a good opportunity here.

[Redleg 41,717]

7 minutes ago, Unleash Hell said:

The Cats compensation will either be start of second round or end of second round, based on the rumoured contract to Motlop.

Will be interesting what the cats do. I assume Cats will use that pick on Ablett not Watts

 

Suns want a player not a pick and want part of that players' salary paid by Cats. 

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

9 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Suns want a player not a pick and want part of that players' salary paid by Cats. 

Agree but if no one wants to go to GC, my gut feel is picks.

I hope GC play hard ball as well but they could also use the picks to chase another player.

My assumption is Ablett is no.1 target fot cats. Hence why Wells said it would be hard to see Cats satisfying Dees.

I'm just guessing from what I've heard 

Edited October 12, 2017 by Unleash Hell
Still.haven't mastered my stupid phone keyboard

[Gator 17,608]

22 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Saw a few games he played and went through his highlights on you tube. 

He is young 20, big and strong 199cm and 96 kgs. Clearly has done the gym work looking at his guns. Has a good straight kick. Knows how to lead and does. Reasonable hands in the marking contest. Was a number 2 draft pick only 2 years ago. Has his best footy in front of him. Could also in time do a bit of ruck work as relieving 2nd ruck. He will be cheap as that mooted trade shows. 

Downside is some emotional issues that hopefully can be overcome now that he is back in Victoria and with some assistance. 

If Hogan leaves or tMac as a FA or Weid fails to come on, he would be there. Pedo will be gone in a year as well.  

I just see a good opportunity here.

Fair enough.

I'm not a fan.  I don't see the competitive traits required to dominate at AFL level.

[Redleg 41,717]

17 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Fair enough.

I'm not a fan.  I don't see the competitive traits required to dominate at AFL level.

I know I would be in the minority, but I just see more upside than downside with the kid.

A cheap price paid helps.

He wouldn't be the first failure for us in a pick, but if it is a lower pick, then less hurt if it ends as a bust.

[martin 727]

1 hour ago, ProDee said:

I find that extraordinary.

What did he specifically say for you to form that view ?

I'm sure you'll remember, otherwise you wouldn't be so certain.

Thanks.

He was asked about further trades but the interviewer muddled the question by asking if we'd consider trading JKH and others. Mahoney definitely said no to that, indicated our interest in Balic but no reference at all was made to further future trades in this period. Certainly did not rule out the possibility as some are suggesting.

[Gator 17,608]

Just now, martin said:

He was asked about further trades but the interviewer muddled the question by asking if we'd consider trading JKH and others. Mahoney definitely said no to that, indicated our interest in Balic but no reference at all was made to further future trades in this period. Certainly did not rule out the possibility as some are suggesting.

So it was the "vibe" ?

[DeeZee 7,445]

What did he say in reference to the Mabo decision?

[martin 727]

Just now, ProDee said:

So it was the "vibe" ?

That is open to interpretation. I am certain we will be involved in other trades.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Is Balic any good or will he just be another Michie/Newton/Kennedy/Riley?

Because I'm getting really sick of these type of players.

[McQueen 17,867]

3 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Is Balic any good or will he just be another Michie/Newton/Kennedy/Riley?

Because I'm getting really sick of these type of players.

I think what makes that difficult to answer is because he’s not played a lot of senior footy due to injury and homesickness.

He’s showed some handy form for Peel in the WAFL on occasions but his overall portfolio of evidence is pretty limited.

[chook fowler 19,665]

25 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Is Balic any good or will he just be another Michie/Newton/Kennedy/Riley?

Because I'm getting really sick of these type of players.

Not to mention our own Bail, McKenzie, Matt Jones

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Just now, chook fowler said:

Not to mention our own Bail, McKenzie, Matt Jones

I'm talking more about depth players from other teams who we trade for that ultimately add nothing to our side.

[binman 44,174]

31 minutes ago, martin said:

That is open to interpretation. I am certain we will be involved in other trades.

You may well be right about us being involved in other trades. But you are dead set wrong about the interview.

His exact words escape me but the gist was  Balic was the only player they are looking to trade in and are not looking at other trades. I remember it because i was surprised that he would be so clear about it, rather than saying something along the lines of:

'we are open to other trades, have some picks in hand now and but nothing has presented itself yet'

 

[DistrACTION Jackson 9,564]

1 minute ago, Clint Bizkit said:

I'm talking more about depth players from other teams who we trade for that ultimately add nothing to our side.

If it's costing pick 46 or 65 in a seemingly weak draft what does it matter?

I'd say we've got a better chance at taking a punt on Harley than a kid at that pick.

[Redleg 41,717]

1 hour ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Is Balic any good or will he just be another Michie/Newton/Kennedy/Riley?

Because I'm getting really sick of these type of players.

I think we can assume that our FD think he might be ok.

Not sure if they are prepared to give personal guarantees.

[rolling fog 1,208]

It's like herding cats down at Geelong right now (pun very much intended).

There's too many moving parts until Motlop nominates a club, which is apparently going to happen tomorrow. 

[Moonshadow 17,678]

27 minutes ago, the rolling fog said:

It's like herding cats down at Geelong right now (pun very much intended).

There's too many moving parts until Motlop nominates a club, which is apparently going to happen tomorrow. 

Is there trading on a Saturday?