"AFL.com.au understands the settlement involved Melbourne terminating Lumumba's contract for the 2017 season, meaning the club can not elevate a rookie player to replace the 223-gamer on its primary list.

If Lumumba had remained a contracted player it is believed under AFL guidelines the Demons would have had the option of placing him on their long-term injury list and promoting a rookie."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-12-22/no-rookie-replacement-for-melbournes-heritier-lumumba
 

Sounds more like the fault of the club rather than Lumumba or the AFL. But don't let me get in the way of the lynch mob.

 

2 minutes ago, stuie said:

 

Sounds more like the fault of the club rather than Lumumba or the AFL. But don't let me get in the way of the lynch mob.

 

...Or the financial payout that was negotiated was less than the financial cost of keeping him on the list for another 12 months..

Just now, george_on_the_outer said:

...Or the financial payout that was negotiated was less than the financial cost of keeping him on the list for another 12 months..

Not arguing that at all, that would be the obvious reason, I'm merely trying to point the gun in the right direction about the rookie upgrade.

 

30 minutes ago, stuie said:

Sounds more like the fault of the club rather than Lumumba or the AFL. But don't let me get in the way of the lynch mob.

 

Or it may be no one's fault since we can assume the club was well aware of the alternative of keeping him on the list as a LTI and decided that on balance what they did was the best thing to do. As usual, and not unreasonably, we are not privy to the details.

1 minute ago, sue said:

Or it may be no one's fault since we can assume the club was well aware of the alternative of keeping him on the list as a LTI and decided that on balance what they did was the best thing to do. As usual, and not unreasonably, we are not privy to the details.

No win situation for anyone, you're right Sue. Was just trying to bring some balance back the other way I guess.

 

Maximum list 47 players. So we go into the season minus our 47th best player, or an injured Prince that would not play. Move on.

 

Edit:- If we have no injuries we are unlikely to need an upgraded rookie, if we have injuries we can. Simple. 

Edited December 23, 20168 yr by ManDee

That Prince fella.... been a right royal pain in the bum as it turns out.

Hope his journey of self discovery goes well.......goes well down any road and as far from this club as possible. 

I can recommend the Buddhist temple at Tengboche. The mornings are super quiet . He can contemplate his life, his self , his navel all in eyeshot of a brooding Everest. The German Bakery does a ripper Strudel and coffee to boot.

Go find it Harry 

He can get in touch with his shakra

Come to think of it he already has that in hand

11 minutes ago, ManDee said:

Maximum list 47 players. So we go into the season minus our 47th best player, or an injured Prince that would not play. Move on.

 

Edit:- If we have no injuries we are unlikely to need an upgraded rookie, if we have injuries we can. Simple. 

Missing one player is getting to be habit forming. Melksham in 2016, Lumumba in 2017. Wonder who it will be in 2018.

Personally, I think it's no big deal and I just don't understand the vitriol directed towards him. That he didn't play many games is not much different to other recruits over the journey, whether they were drafted or traded in.

Can't wait to see his Documentary. Apparently he has been working on it for a couple of years. 

"Everyone is a Star"

Ray Davies...

8 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Can't wait to see his Documentary. Apparently he has been working on it for a couple of years. 

"Everyone is a Star"

Ray Davies...

It's a documentary about him, not by him.

So much hate and so few facts in this thread.

 

The guy is a [censored]. Why any love for him at all? Does it make people feel better about themselves to pot posters for disliking him.

His attitude has been disgraceful. Seriously ........ grieving for Muhammed Ali, and now this concussion contradiction. A greedy self entitled grub.

 

Edited December 23, 20168 yr by whers_jacka_now

24 minutes ago, stuie said:

It's a documentary about him, not by him.

So much hate and so few facts in this thread.

 

H has also been working on it Stewart...

13 hours ago, Fitz Fitzpatrick said:

Bollocks

A post of alarming succinctness and brevity, says more about you, 

6 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Story on FB that Harry Obrien to star in a documentary that covers his struggle for identity.

What a ......

Yawn. Would rather watch paint dry.

Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

 

1 hour ago, whers_jacka_now said:

The guy is a [censored]. Why any love for him at all? Does it make people feel better about themselves to pot posters for disliking him.

His attitude has been disgraceful. Seriously ........ grieving for Muhammed Ali, and now this concussion contradiction. A greedy self entitled grub.

 

The same could be said for posters who are busily denigrating him, does it make you feel better?

Muhammed Ali was not only a boxer, he stood up for personal freedom and against bigotry and racism, could ring a few bells for H

The contradiction about the concussion is on fan forums, well known breeding grounds for misinformation and conspiracy theories

His time at MFC didn't work out, like a lot of other players, so why is he singled out?

1 hour ago, stuie said:

It's a documentary about him, not by him.

So much hate and so few facts in this thread.

 

I think the timing of the documentary is another curious coincidence. 

I suppose he's not getting paid.......  and it wasn't talked about before his retirement.......

Just now, Vogon Poetry said:

I think the timing of the documentary is another curious coincidence. 

I suppose he's not getting paid.......  and it wasn't talked about before his retirement.......

They've been working on it for 2 years, that's some kind of evil plan if you really think it was all timed for this.

 

1 minute ago, Satyriconhome said:

His time at MFC didn't work out, like a lot of other players, so why is he singled out?

No, his circumstances are pretty unique. 

1 minute ago, stuie said:

They've been working on it for 2 years, that's some kind of evil plan if you really think it was all timed for this.

 

Hmmm, okay.  That in itself should have raised concerns.  Is it all about him?

1 minute ago, Vogon Poetry said:

No, his circumstances are pretty unique. 

Not really, there's been plenty of players retire due to concussion.

 

1 minute ago, Vogon Poetry said:

Hmmm, okay.  That in itself should have raised concerns.  Is it all about him?

It's about his journey from the slums of Rio to winning an AFL Grand Final, sounds like a story worth telling to me.

 

1 minute ago, stuie said:

Not really, there's been plenty of players retire due to concussion.

 

Not without being seen to be hit.

Just now, stuie said:

Not really, there's been plenty of players retire due to concussion.

 

Steady Stuie, even though it has been reported on all media outlets including the club website, the concussion is not real