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Just delisted by EFC, is he a better FWD -Ruck option than Spencer? 

196cm    99kg  Born  01/09/1990

Season 2016 Totals/Averages
 
  GM K HB D M G B T HO FF FA AF * SC *
 Total 6 44 21 65 20 4 1 8 41 4 7 315 306
 Average 6 7.3 3.5 10.8 3.3 0.7 0.2 1.3 6.8 0.7 1.2 52.5 51.0

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Posted
Just now, Is Dom Is Good said:

I doubt he would be best 22 so I'd rather see us pick up a genuine back up ruck such as Brooksby or Minson in case Gawn goes down.

Minson would be best 22?

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, billy2803 said:

That's clearly not what he's saying.

Oh you're his interpreter?

Pretty clearly he's saying don't take McKernan be cause he's not best 22, but take Minson instead.

So surely even you can understand why it would seem pointless to take Minson if you're following the logic.

 

Posted (edited)
13 minutes ago, stuie said:

Oh you're his interpreter?

Pretty clearly he's saying don't take McKernan be cause he's not best 22, but take Minson instead.

So surely even you can understand why it would seem pointless to take Minson if you're following the logic.

 

He's saying that McKernan isn't best 22 as forward/ruck, so if we are wanting to pick up someone as back-up for Gawn that won't be best 22, that we're better off picking a genuine ruck, which is what Minson is.

Not an interpreter, Stuart, just a bloke that a) can understand what someone in meaning with their post, and b ) not someone that's always looking for an argument.

 

 

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Changed some wording to avoid a warning/ban...
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McKernan has a great set of hands and is a wonderful mark, but that's it. His awareness, disposal, running, tap work are  all only just VFL standard. I always  felt he should have made it but he remained a good mark, and never developed the rest of his game. A big no from me. 

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I thought he was going to be a gun when he got drafted. Didn't do much at the crows, and couldn't hold on to his spot at the dons. I think he is a great vfl footballer, and might find his was onto a rookie list. I just don't think he offers us anything we don't already have.

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3 hours ago, billy2803 said:

He's saying that McKernan isn't best 22 as forward/ruck, so if we are wanting to pick up someone as back-up for Gawn that won't be best 22, that we're better off picking a genuine ruck, which is what Minson is.

Not an interpreter, Stuart, just a bloke that a) can understand what someone in meaning with their post, and b ) not someone that's always looking for an argument.

 

 

Cheers Billy.

At least someone can comprehend a post.....

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So which contracted player are we going to pay out and delist to bring in McKernan or (apparently) Minson?

At least someone can comprehend a list...

Posted
3 hours ago, Adzman said:

I thought he was going to be a gun when he got drafted. Didn't do much at the crows, and couldn't hold on to his spot at the dons. I think he is a great vfl footballer, and might find his was onto a rookie list. I just don't think he offers us anything we don't already have.

As an Irishman, I want to know if he is a connoisseur of the Noble Taitie?

Posted
44 minutes ago, stuie said:

So which contracted player are we going to pay out and delist to bring in McKernan or (apparently) Minson?

At least someone can comprehend a list...

Who are you asking this question to? Nobody has suggested putting him on the main list.

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Posted
43 minutes ago, stuie said:

So which contracted player are we going to pay out and delist to bring in McKernan or (apparently) Minson?

At least someone can comprehend a list...

We have spots available on the rookie list if it were decided that we would look at any DFA, so no need to delist anyone, Stuart.

Personally, I think there is zero chance that they would be looking at any of the DFAs for any spot on our primary list (as I think we have made all the changes we want to make), or the rookie list (as I think they will try their luck with a couple of project players that aren't "proven" at AFL level.

Posted
50 minutes ago, stuie said:

So which contracted player are we going to pay out and delist to bring in McKernan or (apparently) Minson?

At least someone can comprehend a list...

None if we rookie him. We only have two live picks (47&69) in the main draft after promoting Wagner but we have rookie pics.

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Slightly bigger (if no more athletic) than Pedersen and 3 years younger. 

I could see him fighting for or taking the 2nd ruck spot in 2016 and maybe holding it for a year or so. 

But that's assuming we don't think some combination of Watts or Weideman can do that job for us in the short to medium term. And it doesn't help us find the long term solution either.

So I'd rather use the spot on a guy we think can be a long term solution. If there's no one better and we think we desperately need depth then I wouldn't hate the idea. He's bad but not completely useless. But there's a few state league and young tall prospects who are genuine ruck size/athleticism and have at least some forward ability as well. 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Night Crawler said:

Who are you asking this question to? Nobody has suggested putting him on the main list.

No mention of the rookie list and was said to be a "better FWD -Ruck option than Spencer" (who is on the main list in case you didn't know).

No one suggested putting him on the rookie list...

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Night Crawler said:

Who are you asking this question to? Nobody has suggested putting him on the main list.

 

1 hour ago, billy2803 said:

We have spots available on the rookie list if it were decided that we would look at any DFA, so no need to delist anyone, Stuart.

Personally, I think there is zero chance that they would be looking at any of the DFAs for any spot on our primary list (as I think we have made all the changes we want to make), or the rookie list (as I think they will try their luck with a couple of project players that aren't "proven" at AFL level.

 

1 hour ago, CBDees said:

None if we rookie him. We only have two live picks (47&69) in the main draft after promoting Wagner but we have rookie pics.

 

7 hours ago, stuie said:

We only have space for rookies now don't we? Can't see us taking a 26 year old in the draft.

 

Right, so I was actually the one to mention the rookie list... Not sure if you guys read before having a crack.

 

Posted
30 minutes ago, stuie said:

 

 

 

Right, so I was actually the one to mention the rookie list... Not sure if you guys read before having a crack.

 

If you could be so kind to point out where I "had a crack" regarding the above, that would be appreciated.

What I did have a crack at you about was your inability to comprehend what Is Dom Is Good was implying when bringing up the Minson example, resulting in you beine guilty of derailing a thread for the umpteenth time.

Poor form, champ. Poor form.

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