10 hours ago, SaberFang said:

It's a bloody sad state of affairs when I would actually rather [censored] GWS to win a premiership over either alternative (Geelong or Sydney).

I can't stomach either of these teams winning yet another bloody premiership.

Dont then jump on the doggies wagon. Im hoping to hell the dogs win against the giants. I hope the cats win as well. I could not stomach a gws/swans GF. 

26 minutes ago, america de cali said:

Peter Daicos says hi. 250 games and 549 goals.

Hi Peter. I wouldn't say your numbers were close to the Wiz or Betts. You kicked quite a few more goals.

adc if you could relay please.

12 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Two minutes of the third quarter is enough for me, Spectre it is.

I watched The Gift with Jason Bateman and Joel Edgerton. Creepy movie. Then I watched ex-machina. Would recommend both as substitutes for boring football games. 

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/eddie-mcguire-hits-back-at-alastair-clarkson-declaring-hawks-threepeat-better-than-pies-fourpeat/news-story/6ae534301a431e92e07840843c5c13c2

Looks like Eddie is getting extra sensitive - having a go at Clarkson for saying his 3- peat is better than pies 4 in a row!  Brave words by Clarkson. He said:  “They talk about Collingwood and four in a row. And it was a fantastic achievement, but honestly. They won two of those losing a preliminary final, Collingwood.”

Very funny seeing Eddie upset over the jibes coming his way, firstly from our PJ now from Clarkson. 

Anyone know what Clarkson meant by Coll winning 2 flags on the back of prelim final losses.  Did he mean the 2nd semi or was the prelim something different in 1927-1930?  Just curious.

Edited September 19, 20169 yr by Lucifer's Hero

Wonder if something's happened behind the scenes? Seems like Eddie's ruffled someone's feathers...

10 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

Wonder if something's happened behind the scenes? Seems like Eddie's ruffled someone's feathers...

Certainly doesn't like it when someone ruffles his!! 

He took a beating with his Board after the 'Caro drowning' episode.  It nearly cost them the Holden sponsorship.  Now his 'captain's call' with Grubby Allen may have backfired having lost Balme and upsetting Derek Hine, not to mention his favourite son/coach is struggling. 

Cracks are appearing at Holden stadium on and off the field!

 

Edited September 19, 20169 yr by Lucifer's Hero

On 9/17/2016 at 10:08 PM, Ted Fidge said:

Another match with rampant throwing.

It boggles the mind how the umps dept can't work out that having been so red hot on calling frees for anything remotely resembling deliberate out of bounds, that the same approach would work for throwing. As in, if it's not absolutely a clear cut handball, call it as a throw. Then watch as throwing is eradicated in less than one round.

Why they decided they needed to crack down on this "scourge" of deliberate OOB when we routinely have throwing, short kicks, and holding off the ball on a weekly basis beats me.

Totally agree. Really get angry which means that I am angry most of the time! 

The only thing to be said is that it has been going on for a long time and the more successful clubs have used the umpires leniency on throwing to great advantage to ensure quick ball movement. The two handed flick out has been perfected to the point that the old fashioned handball is almost a thing of the past. I can only think that this is a direction from the top to ensure a fast flow on style of game is maintained and is a way of avoiding the congestion and huddles around the ball. However, I find myself shouting at the TV when I watch the blatant throwing taking place in every game. At times, handball resembles a flick pass, and, at its worst, a rugby pass. The Hawks and the Cats are expert but other sides are catching up. 

The word handball should be replaced by the word handpass and the change in interpretation of the rule acknowledged or the rule changed.  

20 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/eddie-mcguire-hits-back-at-alastair-clarkson-declaring-hawks-threepeat-better-than-pies-fourpeat/news-story/6ae534301a431e92e07840843c5c13c2

Looks like Eddie is getting extra sensitive - having a go at Clarkson for saying his 3- peat is better than pies 4 in a row!  Brave words by Clarkson. He said:  “They talk about Collingwood and four in a row. And it was a fantastic achievement, but honestly. They won two of those losing a preliminary final, Collingwood.”

Very funny seeing Eddie upset over the jibes coming his way, firstly from our PJ now from Clarkson. 

Anyone know what Clarkson meant by Coll winning 2 flags on the back of prelim final losses.  Did he mean the 2nd semi or was the prelim something different in 1927-1930?  Just curious.

Clarko was right, they had a bizaare finals system back then. In 1929, Collingwood got smashed in the 2nd semi, but still went straight through to the GF (avoided the prelim) because they were minor premiers. In 1930, they lost the GF to Geelong (called prelim for the record), but again because they were the minor premiers, they had a rematch against Geelong, which they won.

Reference: VFL Finals book not my memory.

 

25 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/eddie-mcguire-hits-back-at-alastair-clarkson-declaring-hawks-threepeat-better-than-pies-fourpeat/news-story/6ae534301a431e92e07840843c5c13c2

Looks like Eddie is getting extra sensitive - having a go at Clarkson for saying his 3- peat is better than pies 4 in a row!  Brave words by Clarkson. He said:  “They talk about Collingwood and four in a row. And it was a fantastic achievement, but honestly. They won two of those losing a preliminary final, Collingwood.”

Very funny seeing Eddie upset over the jibes coming his way, firstly from our PJ now from Clarkson. 

Anyone know what Clarkson meant by Coll winning 2 flags on the back of prelim final losses.  Did he mean the 2nd semi or was the prelim something different in 1927-1930?  Just curious.

rules were different back then. i seem to remember that last year's premier had the right to challenge this year's premier to a grand final-final. maybe, without researching this one specifically it was under this rule?  

1 minute ago, mo64 said:

Clarko was right, they had a bizaare finals system back then. In 1929, Collingwood got smashed in the 2nd semi, but still went straight through to the GF (avoided the prelim) because they were minor premiers. In 1930, they lost the GF to Geelong (called prelim for the record), but again because they were the minor premiers, they had a rematch against Geelong, which they won.

Reference: VFL Finals book not my memory.

 

 

Just now, daisycutter said:

rules were different back then. i seem to remember that last year's premier had the right to challenge this year's premier to a grand final-final. maybe, without researching this one specifically it was under this rule?  

Thanks guys. 

Bizzare rules . So if a team were the minor premiers they had all these special privileges - lose the 2nd semi, no problem go thru to the GF; get beaten in the GF, no problem just challenge the winner. 

Makes our reign of the 1955 to 1960 seem massive.

On 16 September 2016 at 8:50 PM, monoccular said:

Free kick Hawthorn

 

But the Dogs have kicked themselves out of the contest.  No way they can get back from here.

mea culpa

Humble Hawk pie is tasting delicious.  

2 hours ago, hemingway said:

Totally agree. Really get angry which means that I am angry most of the time! 

The only thing to be said is that it has been going on for a long time and the more successful clubs have used the umpires leniency on throwing to great advantage to ensure quick ball movement. The two handed flick out has been perfected to the point that the old fashioned handball is almost a thing of the past. I can only think that this is a direction from the top to ensure a fast flow on style of game is maintained and is a way of avoiding the congestion and huddles around the ball. However, I find myself shouting at the TV when I watch the blatant throwing taking place in every game. At times, handball resembles a flick pass, and, at its worst, a rugby pass. The Hawks and the Cats are expert but other sides are catching up. 

The word handball should be replaced by the word handpass and the change in interpretation of the rule acknowledged or the rule changed.  

Maybe the "Mitchell special" 8-10 metre passes being paid as marks is part of the same thing.  Avoid a congested stoppage.

Or, maybe, just crap umpiring and leaning towards a top team.