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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - MICHAEL HIBBERD

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1 hour ago, binman said:

This might be a stupid question but are you saying the deal is done on hibberd and if so what is the deal?

Our 2nd round pick.

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    1 hour ago, binman said:

    This might be a stupid question but are you saying the deal is done on hibberd and if so what is the deal?

    just shadowing Red scribblings really

    Hibberd is supposedly coming to us for a second round pick....my Gos says that it is not fixed what that pick actually is...i.e, not necessarily the one we have now.

    All my son's mate is prepared to say is  its not the song and dance some would suggest. Hibberd is gone. I dont think Efc have that much leverage this time round ;)

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    3 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    Our 2nd round pick.

    or *a* 2nd rounder I hear....just saying

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    1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

    just shadowing Red scribblings really

    Hibberd is supposedly coming to us for a second round pick....my Gos says that it is not fixed what that pick actually is...i.e, not necessarily the one we have now.

    All my son's mate is prepared to say is  its not the song and dance some would suggest. Hibberd is gone. I dont think Efc have that much leverage this time round ;)

    My mail is after Hurley, Hooker etc and Watson to come, the Bombers had to offload someone and Hibberd is the one. We made an offer to him and Bombers declined to even match it, in either years or amount. That is why there is such love between the parties. This is a unanimous deal, with ex club and player happy.

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    6 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    My mail is after Hurley, Hooker etc and Watson to come, the Bombers had to offload someone and Hibberd is the one. We made an offer to him and Bombers declined to even match it, in either years or amount. That is why there is such love between the parties. This is a unanimous deal, with ex club and player happy.

    70K a year less at Essendon. They offered a trigger clause to activate a 4th year.

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    5 minutes ago, AngryAtCasey said:

    70K a year less at Essendon. They offered a trigger clause to activate a 4th year.

    Just enough to make him feel unwanted and financially disadvantaged.

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    32 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    Just enough to make him feel unwanted and financially disadvantaged.

    And just about the average worker's yearly salary.

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    My thinking is we only need a halfway ok 2nd rnd pick. Efc are in New turf here.

    Tis warm and fuzzy stuff

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    9 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

    My thinking is we only need a halfway ok 2nd rnd pick. Efc are in New turf here.

    Tis warm and fuzzy stuff

    So we don't have a first round pick and we are going to trade our second round pick as well, wonderful. Or are we trading a player for a second round pick?

    Whatever, we always seem to get shafted, we don't fight hard enough and seem happy to pick up GWS scraps.

     

     

     

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    8 minutes ago, Dante said:

    So we don't have a first round pick and we are going to trade our second round pick as well, wonderful. Or are we trading a player for a second round pick?

    Whatever, we always seem to get shafted, we don't fight hard enough and seem happy to pick up GWS scraps.

     

     

     

    We haven't started wheeling and dealing yet

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    1 hour ago, Redleg said:

    Just enough to make him feel unwanted and financially disadvantaged.

    I reckon he would want to prove something.

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    1 hour ago, Redleg said:

    My mail is after Hurley, Hooker etc and Watson to come, the Bombers had to offload someone and Hibberd is the one. We made an offer to him and Bombers declined to even match it, in either years or amount. That is why there is such love between the parties. This is a unanimous deal, with ex club and player happy.

    Efc have figured they can Moneyball some players. The trick is only a few.we tried the lot :unsure:

    My mail is if they can get to 9-11 in 2017 then all is good.

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    31 minutes ago, Dante said:

    So we don't have a first round pick and we are going to trade our second round pick as well, wonderful. Or are we trading a player for a second round pick?

    Whatever, we always seem to get shafted, we don't fight hard enough and seem happy to pick up GWS scraps.

     

     

     

    You're a bit of a wet blanket at the moment, Dante. Calm down, please. Thank you.

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    3 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

    Efc have figured they can Moneyball some players. The trick is only a few.we tried the lot :unsure:

    My mail is if they can get to 9-11 in 2017 then all is good.

    9-11 not good numbers.

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    9-11 sounds ominous??

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    11 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

    9-11 sounds ominous??

    I know .. planes 9.  11.  

    Didn't end well :unsure:

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    13 hours ago, SaberFang said:

    And just about the average worker's yearly salary.

    And therefore one less year he has to work for the average worker's salary after footy.  

    These are the sorts of things professional football players would have to think about if they've got any sense.  The extra 70k would make stuff all difference to their existing lifestyle, but has massive future implications.  That's why I'm hesitant to ever refer to footballers who seek good salaries "greedy".

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    1 hour ago, Nasher said:

    And therefore one less year he has to work for the average worker's salary after footy.  

    These are the sorts of things professional football players would have to think about if they've got any sense.  The extra 70k would make stuff all difference to their existing lifestyle, but has massive future implications.  That's why I'm hesitant to ever refer to footballers who seek good salaries "greedy".

    Shifty?

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    14 hours ago, A F said:

    You're a bit of a wet blanket at the moment, Dante. Calm down, please. Thank you.

    Not at all, I just get sick of us going after second tier players and paying top price for them. I'm not sure what Hibberd is like but I don't see us fighting off competition and like Melksham I get the feeling that Essendon are not happy to lose him.

    We seem to continually go after players like Dawes, H, BenKen, Michie and Newton who are not quite good enough. Which of the players that we've drafted, apart from Tyson and Frosty, over the last 5 years have been regular players? 

    There are others that have simply been horrendous, like Byrnes, Gillies, Terlich etc. that are either gone or are about to go.  We don't do well on scraps and that's all we seem to want.

     

     

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    25 minutes ago, Dante said:

    Not at all, I just get sick of us going after second tier players and paying top price for them. I'm not sure what Hibberd is like but I don't see us fighting off competition and like Melksham I get the feeling that Essendon are not happy to lose him.

    We seem to continually go after players like Dawes, H, BenKen, Michie and Newton who are not quite good enough. Which of the players that we've drafted, apart from Tyson and Frosty, over the last 5 years have been regular players? 

    There are others that have simply been horrendous, like Byrnes, Gillies, Terlich etc. that are either gone or are about to go.  We don't do well on scraps and that's all we seem to want.

    I believe Bernie won last year's B&F.  

    You may not have noticed but when we were winning 2 games a year with a percentage of 50% we weren't a destination club.

    Even though we have improved our attractiveness, we don't have a lot of currency to trade this year.  We traded our 1st rounder to get Weidemann to the club who has now had a pre-season and 3 AFL games.  

    We can make further incremental improvement with Hibberd and natural improvement in our young players and play finals in 2017.  We can land a "big fish" to ice the flag cake when the time comes in a couple of years.

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    15 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

    I believe Bernie won last year's B&F.  

    You may not have noticed but when we were winning 2 games a year with a percentage of 50% we weren't a destination club.

    This year we traded our 1st rounder to get Weidemann to the club who has now had a pre-season and 3 AFL games.  Even though we have improved our attractiveness, we don't have a lot of currency to trade this year.

    We can make further incremental improvement with Hibberd and natural improvement in our young players and play finals in 2017.  We can land a "big fish" to ice the flag cake when the time comes in a couple of years.

    Yes I forgot Bernie and would have to say I was really happy when we got him because he was quality, however, what about the other ones I mentioned, how do you think they've gone?

    As for Weed, I don't consider any part of my post referred to swapping draft picks for draftees, it was all about trading draft picks for average, at best, footballers like some of the ones I mentioned. I understand that we had to use this years number one selection for Weed but I question using our number 2 as well.

    I understand that we haven't been a destination club so we won't attract top liners and under this circumstances we should be looking at better options in the draft. I don't mind BenKen but I understand that he's going to struggle to get a regular game with us and Michie and Newton have hardly fired a shot in their time with us, Dawes cost us a top pick and he's been injured most of the time he's been with us. It was known that he had issues before he was drafted by us.

    Hibbered is 26 - 27 so when we are in a position to challenge he will be on the verge of retirement, unless he is an exceptional athlete and can continue in to his 30's, is he worth a top 30 pick, is he better than what we would get in the draft, a player that may have 10 years with us, or not.

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    18 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

    I believe Bernie won last year's B&F.  

    You may not have noticed but when we were winning 2 games a year with a percentage of 50% we weren't a destination club.

    Even though we have improved our attractiveness, we don't have a lot of currency to trade this year.  We traded our 1st rounder to get Weidemann to the club who has now had a pre-season and 3 AFL games.  

    We can make further incremental improvement with Hibberd and natural improvement in our young players and play finals in 2017.  We can land a "big fish" to ice the flag cake when the time comes in a couple of years.

    There's no evidence of that. And if a big fish did nominate us, we'd find a way to get the deal done.

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    Amazing that the price for Hibberd with his 80 odd so-so games (none for over a year), is about the same as what we paid for Vince (a former B&F winner at Adelaide). All you need is one bad decision (ie overpaying for Melksham last year), and that becomes the new normal.

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    1 minute ago, mo64 said:

    There's no evidence of that. And if a big fish did nominate us, we'd find a way to get the deal done.

    10 wins 90+% is more attractive than 2 wins 50% - I'm keen to hear your argument against this?

    We don't have a 1st round pick, our 2nd round pick is destined for the Hibberd trade and we don't have any players with obvious value that we'd be prepared to trade, therefore we don't have a lot of currency to trade.

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    Just now, Fifty-5 said:

    10 wins 90+% is more attractive than 2 wins 50% - I'm keen to hear your argument against this?

    We don't have a 1st round pick, our 2nd round pick is destined for the Hibberd trade and we don't have any players with obvious value that we'd be prepared to trade, therefore we don't have a lot of currency to trade.

    There's no evidence of a high profile player nominating us as a preferred destination, hence you can't say that we've improved our attractiveness.

    Collingwood don't have a 1st round pick yet are gunning for O'Meara. There's always ways of getting the deal done, but you have to land the fish first.

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