On 12/07/2016 at 11:27, braysure said:

None of the 12 will do that. Bank it. They will not disrespect essendon like that even after what they have been through.

That would only show that they were all complicit.

  On 12/07/2016 at 11:30, faultydet said:

That would only show that they were all complicit.

Not at all tbh. Poor generalisation.

I could get use to players wanting to be traded to us. 

  On 12/07/2016 at 11:31, braysure said:

Not at all tbh. Poor generalisation.

You must be an essenscum supporter.

 

The human mind doesnt work as a collective like that.

If they claim they were duped into taking illegal drugs that the club refuses to disclose, but they refuse to break from that club,  then they knew.

I don't consider it a generalisation at all.

  On 12/07/2016 at 11:23, braysure said:

Honestly Essendon won't settle for pick 27. Except a 2017 first rounder is not worth it. Maybe dodoro will try and incorporate a third party in order to satisfy his needs. Also Hurley will not leave essendon.

This is going to be a long stand off I think....and Im sure at least  the threat of him going as a free agent will be around. I also bet the AFL wont let that happen as they want the whole saga to disappear now . Whether that plays out in our favour or not I cant read.

Agree re Hurley. 

Can someone please copy and paste the article.

cheers.

  On 12/07/2016 at 11:37, faultydet said:

You must be an essenscum supporter.

 

The human mind doesnt work as a collective like that.

If they claim they were duped into taking illegal drugs that the club refuses to disclose, but they refuse to break from that club,  then they knew.

I don't consider it a generalisation at all.

That is disgusting I bleed blue and red. But I do feel sorry for essendon because of the ill-informed hatred they get from every other club's supporters. Too many people read a Herald Sun headline bagging essendon and they form that same view. It's just annoying to see stupid arguments proposed by non-essendon fans based on the dribble the herald sun write. 

  On 12/07/2016 at 11:27, braysure said:

None of the 12 will do that. Bank it. They will not disrespect essendon like that even after what they have been through.

So it's okay for the club to totally disrespect them and take away a year of their footballing careers, but it's not okay for them to be able to walk away from the club to play elsewhere?  What tosh.

  On 12/07/2016 at 11:41, braysure said:

That is disgusting I bleed blue and red. But I do feel sorry for essendon because of the ill-informed hatred they get from every other club's supporters. Too many people read a Herald Sun headline bagging essendon and they form that same view. It's just annoying to see stupid arguments proposed by non-essendon fans based on the dribble the herald sun write. 

Hahaha.

What about what the WORLD ANTI DOPING AGENCY said??????????

I dont read the herald sun, at all, ever.

And you feel sorry for them? Wow, words fail me. They deserve ZERO sympathy. They only deserve to be raped of their players.

  On 12/07/2016 at 11:27, braysure said:

None of the 12 will do that. Bank it. They will not disrespect essendon like that even after what they have been through.

Maybe, will be interesting to see. Goodwin might play hard ball, especially if Hibbert is offered significantly more by us. Melksham would be in his ear as well, I'm sure. Why would a player respect a club that hasn't respected them?

  On 12/07/2016 at 11:41, Wiseblood said:

So it's okay for the club to totally disrespect them and take away a year of their footballing careers, but it's not okay for them to be able to walk away from the club to play elsewhere?  What tosh.

Where did I say it is not okay for any of the 12 to ask to go via the psd. All i'm saying is it will not happen.

  On 12/07/2016 at 11:41, dazzledavey36 said:

Can someone please copy and paste the article.

cheers.

Dazzle:

The article says that we are feeling more confident of landing him.

They reckon the Bombers want a first rounder, but the one we have in play for the following season is off limits.  Our second rounder won't get it done.

Likely to be a stand off, and while he can do it, it's highly unlikely that he goes to the grievance tribunal to get to us as a delisted free agent.

Sources at the Bombers believe Hibberd is, at best, a 50/50 chance to stay at Essendon and is increasingly likely to want to come to Melbourne to reunite with Goodwin.

It's nothing new really, just that it seems more likely than not that he will request a trade to us at the end of the season.

  On 12/07/2016 at 11:45, braysure said:

Where did I say it is not okay for any of the 12 to ask to go via the psd. All i'm saying is it will not happen.

I wouldn't be so sure, bray.

  On 12/07/2016 at 11:44, Moonshadow said:

Maybe, will be interesting to see. Goodwin might play hard ball, especially if Hibbert is offered significantly more by us. Melksham would be in his ear as well, I'm sure. Why would a player respect a club that hasn't respected them?

Fair point but one of melksham does not equate to the 30 or so essendon players doing the same thing. Indeed it will be interesting. I believe nobody will walk via psd because they all still love and want to play for the club.. it's just a matter of some players (hibberd) potentially wanting more money than essendon are willing to pay.

  On 12/07/2016 at 11:47, Wiseblood said:

I wouldn't be so sure, bray.

Funny and wise, yung blud

  On 12/07/2016 at 11:29, Seraph said:

He has the same manager as Watts and Melksham FYI

That doesn't mean he barracks for us Seraph.

 

Managers aim to do what is best for the Manager. Soulless vampires.

  On 12/07/2016 at 11:46, Wiseblood said:

Dazzle:

The article says that we are feeling more confident of landing him.

They reckon the Bombers want a first rounder, but the one we have in play for the following season is off limits.  Our second rounder won't get it done.

Likely to be a stand off, and while he can do it, it's highly unlikely that he goes to the grievance tribunal to get to us as a delisted free agent.

Sources at the Bombers believe Hibberd is, at best, a 50/50 chance to stay at Essendon and is increasingly likely to want to come to Melbourne to reunite with Goodwin.

It's nothing new really, just that it seems more likely than not that he will request a trade to us at the end of the season.

Good enough.. Thanks mate.

  On 12/07/2016 at 11:49, braysure said:

Fair point but one of melksham does not equate to the 30 or so essendon players doing the same thing. Indeed it will be interesting. I believe nobody will walk via psd because they all still love and want to play for the club.. it's just a matter of some players (hibberd) potentially wanting more money than essendon are willing to pay.

If they 'walk' via the Grievance Tribunal' procedure it is not to the psd.  Its is directly to the club of their choice as a DFA ie no draft picks of any sort are offered and Ess do not get a compensation pick either.  Ess. lose a player for no return, hence why they are smarting so much.

  On 04/07/2016 at 10:51, Demon Disciple said:

I would not mind Hibbard but not Hurley, I feel he is extremely over rated....we need to jeep our monies re to jeep our young list together .

Is Hibberd any good?

 

  On 12/07/2016 at 11:46, Wiseblood said:

Dazzle:

The article says that we are feeling more confident of landing him.

They reckon the Bombers want a first rounder, but the one we have in play for the following season is off limits.  Our second rounder won't get it done.

Likely to be a stand off, and while he can do it, it's highly unlikely that he goes to the grievance tribunal to get to us as a delisted free agent.

Sources at the Bombers believe Hibberd is, at best, a 50/50 chance to stay at Essendon and is increasingly likely to want to come to Melbourne to reunite with Goodwin.

It's nothing new really, just that it seems more likely than not that he will request a trade to us at the end of the season.

Given that Essendon is traditionally a difficult Club to deal with during Trade, a standoff with Goody is more than likely.

  On 12/07/2016 at 11:52, Lucifer's Hero said:

If they 'walk' via the Grievance Tribunal' procedure it is not to the psd.  Its is directly to the club of their choice as a DFA ie no draft picks of any sort are offered and Ess do not get a compensation pick either.

Fair point. That won't happen imo

  On 12/07/2016 at 11:52, dazzledavey36 said:

Good enough.. Thanks mate.

Sorry it's not the article, but I recall reading somewhere on here that copying and pasting articles was against the rules, although I may be wrong on that.

The article did deal in some 'could's' and 'likely's' though, such as saying this 'could' trigger a standoff between the clubs.  Who knows what is going on behind closed doors?  I have a feeling they would be annoyed at us for talking about him a few weeks back so it may go that way, and as we know the Bombers are a pain to deal with.  Plenty of water to go under the bridge yet.

I think more to the point is that the AFL will want Essendon to get something decent for losing players. They've lost face over the bans and will want Ess to bounce back and be competitive next year aiming for the finals. Gill will ensure they don't get screwed.

  On 12/07/2016 at 11:53, Roost It said:

Is Hibberd any good?

 

Is good and quite a handy player. Has an accurate penetrating kick and at his best takes contested marks. Just don't want to be paying overs but we all know how dodoro operates.