Simon Goodwin

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This article is about Melksham but it gives a good insight into Goodwin as a coach from the player's view: http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2015-12-08/melksham-ready-to-make-mark-at-melbourne

'In describing Goodwin, Melksham said the first word that came to mind about the Adelaide great was that he was “driven”...“Everything he does, he commits 100 per cent … he believes in what he’s doing and he’s come from a successful background. He’s played in a few flags at Adelaide and he’s been there and done it, so you trust what he’s saying,” he said...“The club’s in very good hands and speaking with the players over the last few weeks, they’re really excited to have him on board with Roosy (Paul Roos). He’s brought a little bit of change to the club as well and I think this transition phase in the next year will be really smooth.”

These echo comments related in the op.  The underlined parts are terrific qualities in a coach to get his team on board and go on the journey with him.  

I don't think the stories about Goodwin are 'feel goods' to appease supporters in the off season.  Of course only on-field performance will be the telling.  Like Melksham says 'we are in good hands' and given where we have been that is quite something.  

Edited December 8, 2015 by Lucifer's Hero

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2 minutes ago, ManDee said:

HT, my comment was tongue in cheek. If the players love Goodwin so much that they win each game by 100 points then Roos says you no longer need me as coach. NOT LIKELY, but one can dream. I agree we need to keep him at the club in some capacity as long as possible.

Well then ManDee, my 'tongue-in-cheek detection unit' must be in need for a complete overhaul - at the very least, a major service. 

 

 

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Refreshing to read something so positive on here.

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5 minutes ago, nrc73 said:

Refreshing to read something so positive on here.

It will change.

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1 hour ago, Devil is in the Detail said:

It will change.

Of course

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Goody has a reputttion for being an amazing game day coach, i think when he takes over he will have a Macca-Berveridge type impact.

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16 minutes ago, Unstable Dees fan said:

Goody has a reputttion for being an amazing game day coach, i think when he takes over he will have a Macca-Berveridge type impact.

not disbelieving you, but how do you arrive at that conclusion when he's never been a senior coach?

naturally i hope it is true

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On 12/6/2015, 11:00:39, PaulRB said:

Just to counter  balance the "negative Nancy's", feeding the doubt about Goodwin, Roos' last handover had the recipient (John Longmire) win a flag within two years, in 2012...

Just say'n...  

  

There's no real reason to be negative IMO, but Sydney were coming from a very different base. I don't think it's totally implausible for the same or a similar outcome from Goodwin within two or three years though.

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That Roos has done it before, successfully, and learnt much out of the first time, fills me with confidence that we're in good hands.

Are there other coaches in the AFL who have successfully apprenticed their successor?

Shows great character and class from all parties.

 

Edited December 8, 2015 by PaulRB

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On 12/7/2015, 11:43:14, rjay said:

Sometimes.

I think you like a lot of posters have a bit of selective memory happening here. In the 2015 season we started to address this problem and when sides came back at us we steadied and then pushed on for the win...sometimes, not always of course and there were some bad results. This is part of a growing team.

I'm not as concerned about this now with the turnover of the list, the quality of kids in the team and the maturity of the FD...it sure was a problem though.

Good post, mate.

Just one more year of turning over the list and I'll be happy. Matt Jones, Grimes and Terlich still to go. Obviously, it won't stop there and shouldn't, but the D graders will be gone then and it will be a testament to the FD and Roos that in his three years he will have managed to completely transform the list again. Not only that, but the culture is on the improve and this will pave the way perfectly for our man Goodwin.

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2 hours ago, Unstable Dees fan said:

Goody has a reputttion for being an amazing game day coach, i think when he takes over he will have a Macca-Berveridge type impact.

Let's hope that prediction is true.  We have no idea yet.

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On 12/8/2015, 3:22:55, daisycutter said:

not disbelieving you, but how do you arrive at that conclusion when he's never been a senior coach?

naturally i hope it is true

He has been a highly rated assistant for a few years now, must have thrown up some good match day suggestions to gain this reputation, a bit like Adam Simpson, he is fresh enough out of playing to know the game pretty well but unlike Hird, Buckley and Voss he has the experience as an assistant.

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23 minutes ago, Unstable Dees fan said:

He has been a highly rated assistant for a few years now, must have thrown up some good match day suggestions to gain this reputation, a bit like Adam Simpson, he is fresh enough out of playing to know the game pretty well but unlike Hird, Buckley and Voss he has the experience as an assistant.

It's fair to say Bucks at least had 2 years as an assistant under Mick M....though neither was stoked about the arrangements!

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On 6 December 2015 at 11:00 PM, PaulRB said:

Just to counter  balance the "negative Nancy's", feeding the doubt about Goodwin, Roos' last handover had the recipient (John Longmire) win a flag within two years, in 2012...

Just say'n...  

  

Comparing Sydney then with Melbourne now isn't exactly apples with apples Paul.

Longmire coached to a flag not long after they had played in GFs and won a flag with Roos.

That is being a realist, not a Negative Nancy.

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I can see it now.

We smash all three teams in the NAB challenge games under Goodies coaching.

Season proper starts and we perform miserably under Roos.

Demonland erupts in chorus that Roos must hand over to Goodwin immediately.

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11 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Comparing Sydney then with Melbourne now isn't exactly apples with apples Paul.

Longmire coached to a flag not long after they had played in GFs and won a flag with Roos.

That is being a realist, not a Negative Nancy.

But what's your point ?

Is it some revelation that no-one knows ?

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1 hour ago, ProDee said:

But what's your point ?

Is it some revelation that no-one knows ?

It's pretty simple hannibal, not a revelation. Comparing theRoos/Longmire handover at Sydney with Roos/Goodwin handover at Melbourne is a long stretch IMO 

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On 12/6/2015 at 11:40 PM, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Great point,

Great question,

I think the younger players have led the way along with Jones and Vince.. Garland, Howe, Watts, Dawes and The Prince all went missing for large parts of the season.

Grimes tries but....

Dunn had his moments. 

Some will tell you they haven't been coached properly because apparently you need a top line coach to have a bit of self respect. 

Its a killer when your getting flogged and losing the tackle count.

Garland no. Was solid last season.

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3 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

It's pretty simple hannibal, not a revelation. Comparing theRoos/Longmire handover at Sydney with Roos/Goodwin handover at Melbourne is a long stretch IMO 

No doubt a point well made. 

List talent and Goodwin's acumen will determine the club's success going forward. 

 

Edited December 9, 2015 by ProDee

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21 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Comparing Sydney then with Melbourne now isn't exactly apples with apples Paul.

Longmire coached to a flag not long after they had played in GFs and won a flag with Roos.

That is being a realist, not a Negative Nancy.

It's the process, not the content that Roos and Jackson are worried are about.

it worked at Sydney with Longmire and over time, with learnings and improvements, will be effective at Melbourne.

At this stage, we have only an indication that the selection criteria was sound and Goodwin seems to be an astute choice, notwithstanding we went for Dew to begin with.

At least Goodwin has some decent cattle now just like Longmire did.

Edited December 9, 2015 by McQueen
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