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Premiership as I am sick of waiting for number 13 and OD is not getting any younger.

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In Bailey's last two years we won 8.5 wins respectively. Notwithstanding the improvement in all lists from year to year, we have a much better list comparative to the Bailey years.

Whether it be the Swans from 93-96, Dees 97-00, or Pies, Hawks and Port in more recent times, with the right talent and on/off-field leadership clubs can make inroads far quicker than expected.

Hogan, in particular, will have an impact beyond the conservative evaluations of most.

8 is a bare minimum for me.

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If we are to improve which clubs are going to drop? usually if you want to improve a little help from other clubs dropping certainly doesn't go astrey

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Interesting that most are predicting and many have said they'll accept 8 wins or less.

That's not even up to Bailey's last two years.

Personally I'm expecting more. Better list, better football department, better administration, easy draw.

And lets not get into the "Bailey's game plan wouldn't have won a GF". Footy is about winning and Bailey did with much fewer resources than Roos has now.

Time to produce.

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This year we would have realistic chance at beating Carlton ,Richmond ,Essendon ,StKilda ,Collingwood and the Bulldogs at least once to me beating most of these and a couple of interstaters would be a great year

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Beating St.Kilda, GWS, GC and Footscray gives us 7 wins. Last year we dropped games against those sides and we simply shouldn't have.

When the sword of Damocles drops at Windy Hill next month, we can ink in a certain win against them as well.

We beat Richmond and Adelaide, neither who have added anything substantial to their list. We were more than competitive in half a dozen other games. I expect the same again this year.

10 wins as a rock bottom bare minimum

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I hate to be one of the same old but I think 9-10 is a pass mark for this year. None of the losses should be blowouts either. 9 to 10 wins reflects the level we were at pre 186. We, whether we like it or not, have been clawing back the lost ground from the period directly after that game and the year and a half of Neeld so if we are back to break even point then I am happy. That should then set us up for the goal PJ set at the AGM: finals in 2016.

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Beating St.Kilda, GWS, GC and Footscray gives us 7 wins. Last year we dropped games against those sides and we simply shouldn't have.

When the sword of Damocles drops at Windy Hill next month, we can ink in a certain win against them as well.

We beat Richmond and Adelaide, neither who have added anything substantial to their list. We were more than competitive in half a dozen other games. I expect the same again this year.

10 wins as a rock bottom bare minimum

Don't forget Port did us twice in very close ones

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10 wins is a bare minimum for me.

The club is being run properly now with a top line coach and his hand picked assistants

Time to produce results and not just promises.

Anything under 10 wins for 2015 is a fail

And that includes close losses. If the MFC is in a close game late in the last Q we must aim to win it.

Massive improvement can be achieved through hard work and the right attitude.

Close enough is a fail.

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10 wins is a bare minimum for me.

The club is being run properly now with a top line coach and his hand picked assistants

Time to produce results and not just promises.

Anything under 10 wins for 2015 is a fail

And that includes close losses. If the MFC is in a close game late in the last Q we must aim to win it.

Massive improvement can be achieved through hard work and the right attitude.

Close enough is a fail.

disagree. If we lose narrowly to a top4 side I will be calling it a pass with flying colours, not a fail

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disagree. If we lose narrowly to a top4 side I will be calling it a pass with flying colours, not a fail

ok you do that

I won't. The Club has to believe it can win before any change will happen

A loss is a loss and we all know how depressing they are.

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A loss is a loss, we go in planning to win every game, a close loss isn't good enough anymore.

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ok you do that

I won't. The Club has to believe it can win before any change will happen

A loss is a loss and we all know how depressing they are.

Let me get this straight:

In R20 last year we lost to the Hawks by 50 pts at the G

In R7 2015 we have the same assignment

If we lose by a point, you will not consider that an improvement?

Fascinated to hear your response

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A loss is a loss, we go in planning to win every game, a close loss isn't good enough anymore.

Exactly so sick to death of these stupid honorable losses.

Even Roosy has said he expect us going into every game with the mindset of winning it. He wont accept gracious defeats.

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A loss is a loss, we go in planning to win every game, a close loss isn't good enough anymore.

Agreed,you can't win unless you believe you can win.

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Let me get this straight:

In R20 last year we lost to the Hawks by 50 pts at the G

In R7 2015 we have the same assignment

If we lose by a point, you will not consider that an improvement?

Fascinated to hear your response

My response is that it is a loss

We get no points

Not good enough.


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My response is that it is a loss

We get no points

Not good enough.

OK well let's see how many people agree with you if/when it happens. I'm tipping zero.

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7-8 wins. Would love us to win a couple on the road like we did in Adelaide last year.

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OK well let's see how many people agree with you if/when it happens. I'm tipping zero.

I would hope all MFC supporters feel the same way i do

Its the reason this club has had no success in 50 years

Close enough is not good enough. It's time to accept nothing less Curry

Even you must agree with that...hmmm??

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Let me get this straight:

In R20 last year we lost to the Hawks by 50 pts at the G

In R7 2015 we have the same assignment

If we lose by a point, you will not consider that an improvement?

Fascinated to hear your response

OK, I'll bite! If we lose to Hawthorn by one point in round 7 and win the other 22 rounds then I will regard that as a massive improvement!
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I would hope all MFC supporters feel the same way i do

Its the reason this club has had no success in 50 years

Close enough is not good enough. It's time to accept nothing less Curry

Even you must agree with that...hmmm??

Whilst not directed at me I agree with all your statements...

That said I also apply a bit of realism towards this aproach and if we are able to push hawthorn, really push them and lose by 1 point it puts us in good stead for games in 2-3 years time.

As Paul Roos loves to say "competitive for longer" and that is my expectation and I expect nothing less than a massive increase in competitivity and that will also result in more wins

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Whilst not directed at me I agree with all your statements...

That said I also apply a bit of realism towards this aproach and if we are able to push hawthorn, really push them and lose by 1 point it puts us in good stead for games in 2-3 years time.

As Paul Roos loves to say "competitive for longer" and that is my expectation and I expect nothing less than a massive increase in competitivity and that will also result in more wins

I understand what you are saying but in reality losing to any side by one point means the improvement is still not enough.

I want this club to be beating everybody. That is where the Melbourne Football Club should be aiming to do

And until that happens i will see it as failure

I hope PJ & Roosy feel the same way

I had this discussion with Rhino years ago and got shouted down which i thought was foolish

This club has failed for decades because people have let it get there

We as supporters must never accept that situation again

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Improvement is not the issue - we're talking about the pass mark.

Why not straight 50% wins? That used to be a pass.

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