Reckon brayshaw gets a run during the nab cup? Or is he still sore

You don't rate Bail despite him playing most games last season?

I don't mind Bail, and from what I've seen at training, he'll be used as a running backman. I'd really like all of our back 6 to be quality ball users, but we already have some deficient ball users with T.Mac and Grimes, and to a lesser extent Lumumba. Salem comes into the side, and maybe even Newton who looks like a great kick. I wouldn't be surprised if Bail was in the team come round 1, but I'm hoping that some better ball users can supplant him.

I don't get Grimes on the bench in people's teams. If he can't play midfield and he's not starting in defence then he's not in the team.

Edited February 25, 201511 yr by Al's Demons

Reckon brayshaw gets a run during the nab cup? Or is he still sore

Bloody we'll hope so, I reckon he could be a gun, reminds me of a young Trengove, hard working type.

Well based on form thus far, there is now way in the world that Grimes, Jamar or Bail should be anywhere near the team in Round 1

We cant afford to carry these horribly unskilled liabilities when the real stuff begins

Newton and Vandenberg absolute certainties to play vs Gold Coast.you'd think.

Edited March 5, 201511 yr by hogans_heroes

Well bases on form thus far, there is now way in the world that Grimes, Jamar or Bail should be anywhere near the team in Round 1

We cant afford to carry these horribly unskilled liabilities when the real stuff begins

Newton and Vandenberg absolute certainties to play vs Gold Coast.you'd think.

Would be a big statement to leave Grimes out for round 1, one which I would fully encourage. Surely he can't take his spot for granted anymore especially since he's no longer captain.

Well based on form thus far, there is now way in the world that Grimes, Jamar or Bail should be anywhere near the team in Round 1

Unfortunately I didn't get to watch the game so can't really comment to much but I think we all agree we will be a better team when some of our young players with 'potential' (hate that word) go past these guys.

With Jamar however, not sure who comes in for him as from the readings here Gawn wasn't much better and I have seen enough of Spencer.

on tonight's form the vice captain would be in trouble

I think kicking out of the backline is more important than ever in modern footy, if Grimes is constantly missing easy targets it's a real concern, especially when our bloke is out and a simple kick is missed.

Presuming Howe but no Vince

FB: Dunn Frost Jetta

HB: Salem McDonald Howe

C: Newton Jones Lumumba

HF: Kent Hogan vandenBerg

FF: Garlett Dawes Gawn

Foll: Jamar Cross Tyson

Int: Viney Toumpas Garland

S: JKH

Emer: Pedersen, Bail, Watts, Grimes, Michie

Pedersen or Watts in round 1 for Dawes. Want to see Gawn sure up his spot as well otherwise might bring both of those in for Gawn and Dawes.

I'm very keen to see Stretch and Brayshaw. Wouldn't mind another look at Michie Toumpas and Newton as well as Riley. Really have to see more of these outside/depth midfield types.

Can't be bothered writing a 22, but for mine Frost and Newton went from question marks to certainties.

On GRRM's 22, I suspect Grimes will play, on the field, in place of JKH. I'm not the fan I used to be, but I just don't get the impression Roos is in a rush to leave him out.

I'd have Pedersen in place of Gawn - think we need one of our rucks to be mobile. Gawn and Jamar together is one dinosaur too many IMO.

Michie and Toumpas competing to fill in for Bernie.

Watts, if fit, for Vandenberg. Loved AV's game tonight, but I want Watts to be given every chance. Not convinced that our coaches will ditch one of their clear favourites for a newbie from the NEAFL.

There, I wrote a 22 without writing a 22.

Can't be bothered writing a 22, but for mine Frost and Newton went from question marks to certainties.

On GRRM's 22, I suspect Grimes will play, on the field, in place of JKH. I'm not the fan I used to be, but I just don't get the impression Roos is in a rush to leave him out.

I'd have Pedersen in place of Gawn - think we need one of our rucks to be mobile. Gawn and Jamar together is one dinosaur too many IMO.

Michie and Toumpas competing to fill in for Bernie.

Watts, if fit, for Vandenberg. Loved AV's game tonight, but I want Watts to be given every chance. Not convinced that our coaches will ditch one of their clear favourites for a newbie from the NEAFL.

There, I wrote a 22 without writing a 22.

Watts has been given every chance for the best part of a decade. If he doesn't show it in the remaining NAB challenge or Casey preseason games then he can do it the hard way through the VFL. Doesn't have to be a PR disaster just say he's building fitness. A spot will open and he'll be better for it! Do want to see AV from the start of a game though. Freo seemed to bring more pressure in the first half.

More than happy to have Pedersen in for Gawn as well. But I think Gawn offers more than Pedersen in mobility in the ruck, he gives us a bit of zip around the groun. Definitely like the idea of Pedersen being a much more reliable forward option both in attack and when defending, but I didn't see it tonight, he wasn't taking grabs and was plodding as much as Gawn or Jamar were as forwards.

At some stage if Pedersen isn't clearly better for the team than Jamar or Gawn then I'd rather have the strong ruck game and develop Gawn at VFL level. Pedersen was great last year but if he doesn't change the outcomes of games then give me Gawn developing so he can take the first ruck spot, he needs AFL minutes against AFL ruckman.

on tonight's form the vice captain would be in trouble

Worst game in recent memory, had a nightmare.

I think kicking out of the backline is more important than ever in modern footy, if Grimes is constantly missing easy targets it's a real concern, especially when our bloke is out and a simple kick is missed.

You need class all over the field but it's vital in the backline. Grimes' clangers have cost us so many goals over the years I've lost count. The opposition must love when he gets the ball because it goes straight back to them.