Tongue firmly in the cheek hardtack is my summation.

Probably right... hard day at the office today so my sarcasm detectors are way out of whack.

WTF?

Hopefully a bit of mischief... I did a quick search of Twitter and Real Footy where there was nothing.

I did however notice that, and this has nothing to do with the Dees, poor Moribito from Freo is set to have more knee surgery. I really feel for that guy as he was shaping up as a superstar until his run of injuries.

Actually, I see it the other way around. I'm hoping with players such as N Jones, Tyson, Viney, Newton and Lamumba he won't have to attack the game more aggressively and instead be used as the finisher of those other players' hard attacking work. If we want Watts to attack the game more aggressively I think we'll continue to be disappointed. However, if we want to make the best use of his skills, we could be very happy.

True we should make use of his skills by using him as an outside player at times but if we want to be a good team we can't have hesitant players - still needs to attack the game more aggressively.

If he does become more aggressive we could use him as a swing man and throw him up forward at times (previously he has proven fairly weak in the position)

Hopefully a bit of mischief... I did a quick search of Twitter and Real Footy where there was nothing.

I did however notice that, and this has nothing to do with the Dees, poor Moribito from Freo is set to have more knee surgery. I really feel for that guy as he was shaping up as a superstar until his run of injuries.

I hope I'm completely wrong and have just heard a rumour. Just saw a few people discussing it on FB about being there and saying howes hammy looked bad and hogan was very proppy and in rehab group.

Would love to be smashed and told I'm an idiot and completely wrong!

If we want Watts to attack the game more aggressively I think we'll continue to be disappointed. However, if we want to make the best use of his skills, we could be very happy.

I am not singling out your post, I understand what you are getting at... but...

Regardless if it's Watts or whoever, a team can't afford passengers. When and if its your turn to go, you gotta go. [censored]-footing around and shirking it isnt a good look. Having said that. you need to be smart about it. no point being a martyr just to prove a point, then end up in a hospital bed for 6 weeks

Watts has the skills, and will be an important player, when using those skills to hurt the opposition, but if I can say so.. I think everyone would just love him to just once, actually flatten someone in a fair, hard hit. You'll get hurt a lot more if you go at it half hearted.

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I am not singling out your post, I understand what you are getting at... but...

Regardless if it's Watts or whoever, a team can't afford passengers. When and if its your turn to go, you gotta go. [censored]-footing around and shirking it isnt a good look. Having said that. you need to be smart about it. no point being a martyr just to prove a point, then end up in a hospital bed for 6 weeks

Watts has the skills, and will be an important player, when using those skills to hurt the opposition, but if I can say so.. I think everyone would just love him to just once, actually flatten someone in a fair, hard hit. You'll get hurt a lot more if you go at it half hearted.

I think that's what makes Hawthorn/Geelong such a good teams - they all have roles to play but when it comes down to it every player is willing and ready to go in hard.

Just to expand on the issue about Jack Watts and aggression...

In my opinion, the way Mick Malthouse and, I suspect, Mark Neeld coach(ed) was to say to the players. "This is my hypothetical perfect footballer. You have to change to become that footballer". On the other hand, I believe Paul Roos coaches by saying to the players "I need to know what you're good at and what your weaknesses are. We're going to make the best use of your strengths and try to eliminate your weaknesses."

Burgos Diary Day 9

I also heard the rumours of training injuries to Hogan and Howe and now Bernard too... Anyone have any actual information?

Just to expand on the issue about Jack Watts and aggression...

In my opinion, the way Mick Malthouse and, I suspect, Mark Neeld coach(ed) was to say to the players. "This is my hypothetical perfect footballer. You have to change to become that footballer". On the other hand, I believe Paul Roos coaches by saying to the players "I need to know what you're good at and what your weaknesses are. We're going to make the best use of your strengths and try to eliminate your weaknesses."

Say what you want about Neeld, in some ways the sample size is too small to work out. But Leon Davis and Alan Didak were both stars under Mick and both are as soft as butter. Dane Swan played great footy pretty much playing like a kid in under 9's.

Paul Roos' best Sydney teams were much more structured and defensive than Mick's Collingwood team.

Interesting the team that won the kicking precision included Grimes, McKenzie and Terlich.

Interesting the team that won the kicking precision included Grimes, McKenzie and Terlich.

probably thought it was a goal kicking comp...

Say what you want about Neeld, in some ways the sample size is too small to work out. But Leon Davis and Alan Didak were both stars under Mick and both are as soft as butter. Dane Swan played great footy pretty much playing like a kid in under 9's.

Paul Roos' best Sydney teams were much more structured and defensive than Mick's Collingwood team.

It wasn't intended as a slight on Neeld (or Malthouse). Rather I was commenting on what I perceive as a different approach. Mick's method has clearly worked for him and that it didn't for Neeld doesn't mean the theory was necessarily wrong, just that its execution didn't succeed. Similarly, the Roos approach may or may not work every time.

One one hand it was smart. But on the other I'm somewhat disappointed our players decided to fork out 20 bucks each and buy the coaches pizza when they had a masterchef challenge. The youngsters could've learnt some life skills and it was another team bonding exercise, not to mention some humour when one group of players inevitably serves up burnt toast. An opportunity missed I'd say.

Interesting the team that won the kicking precision included Grimes, McKenzie and Terlich.

But less surprisingly Salem, Newton and Stretch were alongside them.

Terlich can actually kick pretty well. No real issues with his ball drop or technique, he just runs in to trouble from half back. If he played midfield or half forward he'd probably be known as a good kick. Grimes' is a little less fluent, but when balanced isn't shocking. McKenzie certainly isn't a good kick, but put him in any local footy team and he'd be one of the best kicks out there.

I also heard the rumours of training injuries to Hogan and Howe and now Bernard too... Anyone have any actual information?

No specifics, but Howe did have it iced up. I didn't see it happen - walking around reasonably OK afterwards.

No sign of Hoges today. Someone told me he might have been proppy and stopped training but that could just be precautionry stuff (make of that what you will ). He always looks proppy to me with his waddle.Thought some guys might have gone for a swim earlier - he might have gone also.

He has been wrapped in cotton wool at various points throughout the camp but I wouldn't be jumping to conclusions.

Tyson came off with a lower leg concern but no idea how bad (shin?). He was still walking alright.

I'd suggest that it might be a case of the medicos playing it safe with niggles - but who knows?

Cheers RB!

No specifics, but Howe did have it iced up. I didn't see it happen - walking around reasonably OK afterwards.

How are both Toumpas and Salem going in your view? You have mentioned Salem occasionally but it is while since news has filtered out on Toumpas.

How are both Toumpas and Salem going in your view? You have mentioned Salem occasionally but it is while since news has filtered out on Toumpas.es my e

My approach to training reports is that I write down about who and what catches my eye.These guys haven't caught my attention a heap for what ever reason during camp, but that's not saying they aren't training well. I think with Toump he's a head down, bum up and hat low kind of trainer and this might contribute to him sliding under my radar a bit. Another poster from Saturday's session said he heard his name called a lot (in praise) I tend to shut out a lot of the chatter and focus on what I see. I did notice Toumps really neat & consistent disposal today. He's a very dilegent trainer from the looks of it. I can't recall seeing Salem at all today.The general feeling is that they are both tracking nicely and I'm looking forward to see what they can do in NAB cup.

Just seen Jeremy Howe and bernie vince at the airport in melbourne. Come home early it would seem

Just seen Jeremy Howe and bernie vince at the airport in melbourne. Come home early it would seem

Today was their last day in QLD, so might not mean much.

Maybe you just didn't see the other players or they were on a separate flight?

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Does everyone else love the hell out of that room? The perfect three personalities to bed with Petracca, each with contrasting and admirable traits.

Really curious about which 3 players they put Brayshaw with.

Edited January 21, 201510 yr by Lamashtu

Does everyone else love the hell out of that room? The perfect three personalities to bed with Petracca, each with contrasting and admirable traits.

Really curious about which 3 players they put Brayshaw with.

Did you see the intagram feed with the three stirring him up to do the coffee runs?

Say what you want about Neeld, in some ways the sample size is too small to work out. But Leon Davis and Alan Didak were both stars under Mick and both are as soft as butter. Dane Swan played great footy pretty much playing like a kid in under 9's.

Paul Roos' best Sydney teams were much more structured and defensive than Mick's Collingwood team.

Put butter in the freezer for a while and check out how soft it is.

Just to expand on the issue about Jack Watts and aggression...

In my opinion, the way Mick Malthouse and, I suspect, Mark Neeld coach(ed) was to say to the players. "This is my hypothetical perfect footballer. You have to change to become that footballer". On the other hand, I believe Paul Roos coaches by saying to the players "I need to know what you're good at and what your weaknesses are. We're going to make the best use of your strengths and try to eliminate your weaknesses."

Absolutely agree.

Watts is clearly a very good player. It's just that many have wanted him to be a different type of player to what he actually is, which is a highly skilled, athletic, outside type player with supreme vision, i.e. not another hard nosed ball winning inside mid in the mould of Nate Jones, or a burly aggressive forward like Jonathon Brown.

Doesn't mean he's not an excellent player to have on our list though. I reckon Roos knows/recognises this.