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Jack Watts Keep or Trade ?? The Poll

Trade or Keep 306 members have voted

  1. 1. Would you Keep or trade Jack Watts

    • Trade, just trade
      42
    • Keep , just keep
      94
    • Trade for Round 1 pick only
      26
    • Trade for what we can realistically expect
      44
    • Keep , unless a really good trade is offered
      28
  2. 2. If you chose Keep

    • is it because you think he can still be 're-programmed"
      49
    • is it because you think he's been hard done by ( not 'developed' properly )
      38
    • because yo think he's actually playing OK ?
      50
    • Not Apllicable
      111
  3. 3. If Trade, why

    • Hes had enough time to prove himself
      48
    • He offers greater value as a trade in on a new player
      34
    • would be win /win for both parties to start afresh with jack rebooting elsewhere
      73
    • Not applicable
      97
  4. 4. If Trade

    • just for a pick
      11
    • just for a player
      9
    • any combo that works for all
      122
    • Not applicable
      92

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the intent of answers 1 , 3, and 4 start with TRADE, yes there are various outcomes but its hardly ambiguous as to intent Id have thought.

By your own reasoning youd accommodate the Keep unless a trade found ( answer 5) as being a "Trade" then ??

No because that is a motherhood statement

Not sure why anyone would vote for that it is a bit like saying keep unless he plays badly next year.

Of course he will be kept

Oh god I give up we are arguing of degrees of poor performance.

Just trade the guy for anything reasonable.

 

Keep vote 41%

Trade for First round pick only vote 11% ( everyone knows this is effectively saying Keep as it wont happen )

Total 52% that is a majority in my book and would get your control of the house of Reps with a health majority.

not is south australia od :)

 

we know your thoughts on sa od, but there are plenty of other examples

Simple fact is dc the majority want to keep him

It is a fact I find difficult to understand and before you say it.

Yes it is not unusual.


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No because that is a motherhood statement

Not sure why anyone would vote for that it is a bit like saying keep unless he plays badly next year.

Of course he will be kept

Oh god I give up we are arguing of degrees of poor performance.

Just trade the guy for anything reasonable.

Actually theres a difference

Some might take the position of Keep, plain and simple, and thats an answer of choice. Others might say, well yeah my first inclination is to keep him,, but i could be persuaded if a decent trade surfaced. So its ambivalent yes but a distinct position ( up there on the fence )

Actually theres a difference

Some might take the position of Keep, plain and simple, and thats an answer of choice. Others might say, well yeah my first inclination is to keep him,, but i could be persuaded if a decent trade surfaced. So its ambivalent yes but a distinct position ( up there on the fence )

I have given up bb you win,.

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I have given up bb you win,.

its been a long year OD ( again ) :wacko:

as a footnote

Its about where I thought it would end up, or thereabouts...JW splits this club....so maybe its time he does split this club !!

Edited by beelzebub

 
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Simple fact is dc the majority want to keep him

It is a fact I find difficult to understand and before you say it.

Yes it is not unusual.

Id still contend whether there's a majority but that aside there's a decent amount. As you suggest it also confounds me.

Bit like some hanging onto a bad marriage... been over for years but [censored] what they know and there's a certain comfort in what you know.

As those designing a referenda will attest best to place desired outcome as the "NO" answer as many just aren't down with change.

Strangely its change that this club needs in spades. Each to their own I guess

The body language tells a story. "Gee, what happened there , kinda thiing " "a whats happening? deja vu all over gain

He looks mentally whacked. Far from the only one I agree

What is he meant to be doing? Laughing? Gee BB this is a weak argument. Of course he is allowed to look stunned. I bet all the Dees were looking shattered at that moment.


its been a long year OD ( again ) :wacko:

as a footnote

Its about where I thought it would end up, or thereabouts...JW splits this club....so maybe its time he does split this club !!

There is a future for you in advertising copy BB, but splitting supporters is not be the same as splitting the club. Never heard that any of the players have it in for him.

Thank goodness you didn't find a photo of Watts smiling after 186.

Whatever the result of this poll, it is seriously flawed. The sample size is completely inadequate for a start. We have approx 3290 members of Demonland. Just 214 of us saw fit to vote, just over 6% of our membership. Hardly conclusive which ever way the vote went.

The only important thing is what the Melbourne Football Club will do in the next few weeks. Let us just wait and see.

Edited by Bobby McKenzie

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Whatever the result of this poll, it is seriously flawed. The sample size is completely inadequate for a start. We have approx 3290 members of Demonland. Just 214 of us saw fit to vote, just over 6% of our membership. Hardly convincing which ever way the vote went.

The only important thing is what the Melbourne Football Club will do in the next few weeks. Let us just wait and see.

your last line negates the rest.. it was just to see what WE thought..thats all it was, all it could do

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There is a future for you in advertising copy BB, but splitting supporters is not be the same as splitting the club. Never heard that any of the players have it in for him.

Thank goodness you didn't find a photo of Watts smiling after 186.

Thats an interesting point actually Sue . That many at the club ( players ) dont see the problem., That in ITSELF is half the problem. Half the list isnt up to it and their view counts also ?? . Maybe they are actually TOO close to give an objective view ?? ( its a question ) So you can see there might be flaws all around. Again..Its a poll amongst us. Given the absolute gaping hole that is our "success" in recent times Im not gong to allow that the club necessarily knows a whole lot better. I hope it does NOW.

WE should change that to the Red, White and blue one.

We win a lot more games in that one.

is that the away jumper????


is that the away jumper????

Yes

Dc cannot see it but it is the future dee-luded.

Out with the old proven failures.

I'd keep him. We need class, and I don't expect he'd get much more than a second rounder if traded anyway.

But, then again, many of you thought having Junior retire was a good decision at the time.

There's a reason we have an ordinary culture, and it's not due to Jack Watts.

I'd keep him. We need class, and I don't expect he'd get much more than a second rounder if traded anyway.

But, then again, many of you thought having Junior retire was a good decision at the time.

There's a reason we have an ordinary culture, and it's not due to Jack Watts.

What about the decision to offload TJ? I'd say that's more applicable than Junior.

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What about the decision to offload TJ? I'd say that's more applicable than Junior.

just out of idle curiosity whod you rate higher ?

Got a first round pick which landed Jack Grimes. On balance, a good decision.

However, the list is very long in relation to the trades we've done that have turned out to be absolutely deadly for us.

And I reckon trading Watts to Carlton for, say, pick 25 would add to that already really unimpressive list.


Would, however, probably appease a few disgruntled supporters for a few weeks though.

In the 'make a decision - any decision' zone.

But I'm in the camp that thought trading Woewodin absolutely smashed the culture of this club at the time.

And I still think that.

But I'm in the camp that thought trading Woewodin absolutely smashed the culture of this club at the time.

And I still think that.

Without doubt, the most shocking decision ever.

 

Yes

Dc cannot see it but it is the future dee-luded.

Out with the old proven failures.

Huh, are you suggesting we merge with the bullies? and train at north dorklands ? have you heard anything 'G'.

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Got a first round pick which landed Jack Grimes. On balance, a good decision.

However, the list is very long in relation to the trades we've done that have turned out to be absolutely deadly for us.

And I reckon trading Watts to Carlton for, say, pick 25 would add to that already really unimpressive list.

You say that and you cant say who that pick might be ? Surely by your methodology only a review in hindsight would present the true value.

TJ had his problems but he ( on song ) would run circles around Grimes. Grimes isnt often on song.

Id take 25 for Watts and be very surprised in the club wouldnt ( if of a mind to trade )


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