He is mentally shot and if he can't turn it around after a stint at Casey the best thing for both player and club is probably to find a new environment for him. I wonder if Carlton would do a Watts/Kreuzer trade?

you know, last year we probably could have done a Watts/Yarran trade.

Although jack is an incredibly frustrating footballer and is borderline starting to resemble Cale Morton, I must admit being disappointed by all of the Bronx cheers everytime he got a possession. Very Richmond fan like and hardly supporting ur team!! Some serious flogs of fans out there !

I have been a big supporter of Watts.

Last night I was calling for his head.

His performance was bordering on bizarre. It was as though someone spiked his Gatorade with marijuana just prior to the warm up.

maybe, micky malthouse has parted his hair for him. watt, with all those talks?

We need to get Watts off our list.

Compare Jack Watts to Jack Viney

Complete opposites in the way they play in every way.

We need to get Watts off our list.

Compare Jack Watts to Jack Viney

Complete opposites in the way they play in every way.

Absolutely. We are trying to build a team like hawthorn/Geelong. Jack watts is not made for this business. Can you imagine him standing up in a final?

I have been a big supporter of Watts.

Last night I was calling for his head.

His performance was bordering on bizarre. It was as though someone spiked his Gatorade with marijuana just prior to the warm up.

This sums up my feeling exactly. It's a real pity, especially after he played an excellent game earlier in the season. It seems to me that he was shaken up by the solid bodies of the Sydney players. There was one point where he had a gap straight through two Sydney players, and he could have charged through---he's not a small bloke, and not a slow one either---but he just looked lost, and handballed it to a man under the pump. More and more, I realise he's a player who just doesn't want to put his body on the line. We don't need a team full of Nate Joneses, but the players who make me really confident for the future---the likes of Dawes, Kennedy-Harris, Viney, even Salem(!)---will go for the ball, rather than incessantly hanging back, even if they aren't the biggest blokes on the team (K-H, Viney, etc.). The frustration of Watts is that he's got more than most physically, but his willingness to play is ... just ...

Jack needs some home truths told to him and a stint at Casey until he can prove that he can chase and run to contests.

Of course the selection committee will be the one's who take the second course of action but Paul Roos and his lieutenants should not be taking the first.

That, my friends, needs to come from the leadership group.

The reason why Roosy never needed to blast the Swans too often was because the playing group were the ones driving the standards. Now is the time for Jack to be called before the group and the group needs to tell him he needs to pick it up a notch. Jack was able to hide behind the 'difference of opinion' excuse with Neeld and potentially could do so with Roos (though Roos has more of a reputation than Neeld). If it's his peers telling him he needs to pick it up, it will have much more effect. The ball then will be in his court.

Jack was exposed last night. When everyone in the group is putting in and you are still floating around like you are in the TAC cup, it can make people pretty resentful. I think Crossy let him know about what he thought during the game.

Roosy has given more bakes in 6 weeks at the Dees than he did in ten years at the Swans (as far as I can remember). He can't carry the leadership load all by himself. Our senior blokes need to be driving the standards.

With Cross now in the LG, if you listen to his post match interview I think it is pretty much guaranteed that Watts will be pulled aside this week and read the riot act. Patience has officially worn out.

We need to get Watts off our list.

Compare Jack Watts to Jack Viney

Complete opposites in the way they play in every way.

Although i don't agree with much of what you "fire out" with your scatter-gun approach to posting. You have hit your target here sir.

With Cross now in the LG, if you listen to his post match interview I think it is pretty much guaranteed that Watts will be pulled aside this week and read the riot act. Patience has officially worn out.

THIS from Crossy in his post-match interview, shows that he noticed and is fed up (already) with some players who aren't putting in:

“We certainly had intent and pressure from most of the guys, which was a massive improvement from last week, but that’s the minimum standard that you have to have every week.

“It’s a tough game that we play and you can’t have any passengers any week, so that’s what was disappointing.”

Absolutely. We are trying to build a team like hawthorn/Geelong. Jack watts is not made for this business. Can you imagine him standing up in a final?

It wouldn't suprise me if he played like that in a final, because we have given him every opportunity and he just doesn't seem to care.

I rate Watts. He has class.

What I don't rate is some of the relentless and inane criticism of him from certain of the keyboard warriors here.

He thoroughly deserves it... Sick of hearing about him and from those who think he is part of our future. If he is we don't have one, sadly.

He thoroughly deserves it... Sick of hearing about him and from those who think he is part of our future. If he is we don't have one, sadly.

Sadly is correct

Now in his sixth year on the list.

good skills but little desire.

How do we keep picking these talented but lazy un driven players with these top picks. TJ, Sylvia, Watts. It's unbelievable really. Is our culture really that bad that these players can be accepted?

because in our past, nice guys, 'who were selected by the politically correct', ran the club's board; who in-turn hired nice footy friends to run the footy club, who hired nice guys to be the footy dept'; who in-turn recruited 'nice boy next door' types', to fit the 'politically correct culture' upstairs.

this is why other clubs players like from the Hawks, Roos, Bombers, Pies, laugh at us trying to be a footy club. even the likes of tiger players just smirk at us.

A few years back, some AFL players watching 'Casey' made comment on Cheney, in his early days, thought he was a good type.

Absolutely. We are trying to build a team like hawthorn/Geelong. Jack watts is not made for this business. Can you imagine him standing up in a final?

he's a bit like Dunn was at the start of his career but with less heart & effort. but the last couple of weeks has been inexcusable.

Just wondering if there is any coincidence in the fact that JW had a pretty good game against the Saints and seemed to be going in harder than ever before (albeit off a low base), then Alex McKinnon broke his neck the following Monday, and JW has ever since reverted to his old very timid self? Do we have a team psychologist anymore?

Not sure about the shrink. With regards to his decline in contact since round 1, I put it down to round 1, new coach, new season, clean slate to an extent. Saints were serverly undermanned and had lots of kids in. Now as the season progresses and we start to play more experienced teams he goes missing. In the past a player will leave then play a decent game for their new club and we all say "were we the problem, couldn't we develop him". If Roos can't get the best out of a Watts this year he must be traded, might get a 2nd round if were lucky. Can't go into games with players who refuse to put in 100% regardless of how good your disposal is. We are building a culture, he is not setting a good example.

he's a bit like Dunn was at the start of his career but with less heart & effort. but the last couple of weeks has been inexcusable.

JW is a choir boy to his boot laces dee-luded.

What you see is what you get.

If he has not changed into his sixth season he never will.

It all goes back to the Interview Jack Watts gave in 2010

"Losing is no big deal" or words to that effect.

I was shocked to read that at the time.

Now it makes me very angry.

Just wondering if there is any coincidence in the fact that JW had a pretty good game against the Saints and seemed to be going in harder than ever before (albeit off a low base), then Alex McKinnon broke his neck the following Monday, and JW has ever since reverted to his old very timid self? Do we have a team psychologist anymore?

Watts plays well against easy competition who don't put him under much pressure, just like he dominated school footy and juniors for Vic Metro, but as soon as he comes up against someone or a team who goes in hard he is absolutely useless. He will never make it.

jack just lacks avidity

I can't ever see Jack Watts playing in a finals side.

trade Watts to the highest bidder, even if its pick 70

He is a culture killer and his teammates must hate him

$cully got completely pantsed yesterday as well.

Jeebers we picked them. All for a $500,000 fine.

Good on ya Cam....

can anyone confirm if it was Jack Watts that Daniel Cross was screaming at for not running back hard enough?

And also did Roos give Watts and Howe a spray at 3 quarter time? Someone said he did

$cully got completely pantsed yesterday as well.

Jeebers we picked them. All for a $500,000 fine.

Good on ya Cam....

The only upside wyl is he is not with us.

perhaps we could throw him in as an after thought.

Oh sorry you were supposed to take JW as well.

can anyone confirm if it was Jack Watts that Daniel Cross was screaming at for not running back hard enough?

And also did Roos give Watts and Howe a spray at 3 quarter time? Someone said he did

wouldn't call it a spray. But he singled them out from the group and spoke with intent...

Losing patience is what i took from it.