Ins: Gawn, McKenzie,Garland, Viney & Blease

Outs: Pedersen, Fitzpatrick, Trengove, Bail & Michie

McKenzie really?

We take out guys that can't kick and we add a guy who can't kick.

To me Gawn, Blease, Kent

Out Pederson, Fitzpatrick, Bail

Line Up

Terlich McDonald Georgiou

Grimes Frawley Dunn

Watts N Jones Vince

Kent Howe Blease

JKH Gawn Byrnes

Spenser Tyson Cross

Trengove, Michie, Toumpas, M Jones

Pure speed through our forward line, get Frawley out of Full back and try him as a CHB, Dunn needs to be our play maker from HBF he is the only one that can kick. Trengove has to be in the midfield rotations in the guts not on a wing

Like your comments drdrake but I think they may bring Garland straight in and play Dunn forward,

Is Viney in the mix ? no mention of him in any injury reports ?

Is Viney in the mix ? no mention of him in any injury reports ?

I don't think he was put on the list. he had a couple of head knocks in a row, at training then again at Casey, I think. no muscle strains, so just need to recover his faculties.

he should be close.

sorry if this has been asked but what about Dom Barry or Salem? Where are they. these guys are top 10 picks. Why not give them a go?

I am going to see Williamstown CYMS play Old Mentonians on Saturday afternoon.

How is that a game on Saturday afternoon.

Go willie, I will bet a $1000 is more fun than the game on Sunday via Foxtel

sorry if this has been asked but what about Dom Barry or Salem? Where are they. these guys are top 10 picks. Why not give them a go?

I think Salem just hasn't had enough game time at Casey due to the byes and so on. I expert him to play some good VFL footy sometime soon and then get a shot. Kent, Blease and Evans first though.

Don Barry isn't a top 10 pick. He was rated somewhere between late second round and rookie draft. Because he was thrown in to the Hogan deal he will never have an exact draft position but that's not a bad thing. Either way from what I saw of him in the preseason he's still a kid. Doesn't find the footy at preseason level, panics under pressure etc. If he has a good season in the VFL then maybe we can think of a few games for him when he is in form but he's the perfect type to follow Roos' mantra of learning what it takes to be an AFL player.

sorry if this has been asked but what about Dom Barry or Salem? Where are they. these guys are top 10 picks. Why not give them a go?

Barry is average from my view hardly VFL standard at this point.

Salem is a kid please let him have some time with Casey, we don't need another kid battered by playing to early at AFL level.

Plays quite a bit there.

Where do you start? No one in the backline will go. Maybe Jones.

Byrnes might get dropped. I can't him see him dropping Fitzy or Pedo.

Pederson has done nothing but still gets a game no wonder we are crap we reward players who play like crap with games.

In: Viney, Kent, Gawn, Garland

Out: M Jones, Bail, Fitz, Georgiou

Agree its time for Grimes to be dropped.

Pederson out bring in anyone else on our list. I am sick of his listless efforts.

Play Garland and stick him at FF as the #1 tall. Gives Howe and Fitzy a little bit of support and it will keep him relatively fresh as the game goes on.

It also means we can keep Dunn down back where he belongs and also plays his best footy, while Chip can take Cameron and McDonald/Georgiou can take Patton. We win the midfield battle then we win.

Viney would be handy as well.

McKenzie really?

We take out guys that can't kick and we add a guy who can't kick.

ng

His kicking is beside the point in the context of his role, they should bring him in to play on Cal Ward or Treloar, most likely Ward.

His kicking is beside the point in the context of his role, they should bring him in to play on Cal Ward or Treloar, most likely Ward.

Agree. Mckenzie's poor kicking isn't as big an issue as say Grimes not being able to kick. His best games have been handball-heavy and we could use his tagging

Rubbish, you are advocating that Roos does exactly what Neeld did.

Well, Neeld didn't drop an under performing Trengove

Roos talking positional swaps instead of wholesale changes. I'd give this a try:

FB: Georgiou Pedersen Terlich

HB: Howe Frawley Grimes

C: Watts Jones Vince

HF: Bail McDonald Trengove

FF: JKH Dunn Byrnes

Foll: Spencer Cross Tyson

Int: Fitzpatrick, Toumpas Viney Blease

Out: M. Jones, Michie,

In: Blease, Viney

- Howe to the backline as flagged by Roos

- Dunn forward

- Pedersen to FB to play on Giles/Patton

- McDonald to CHF so we have a high work rate and high energy guy forward

- Toumpas to be the 7th defender in the rotation for some run and skills behind the ball

- JKH in to the starting team

Roos talking positional swaps instead of wholesale changes. I'd give this a try:

FB: Georgiou Pedersen Terlich

HB: Howe Frawley Grimes

C: Watts Jones Vince

HF: Bail McDonald Trengove

FF: JKH Dunn Byrnes

Foll: Spencer Cross Tyson

Int: Fitzpatrick, Toumpas Viney Blease

Out: M. Jones, Michie,

In: Blease, Viney

- Howe to the backline as flagged by Roos

- Dunn forward

- Pedersen to FB to play on Giles/Patton

- McDonald to CHF so we have a high work rate and high energy guy forward

- Toumpas to be the 7th defender in the rotation for some run and skills behind the ball

- JKH in to the starting team

Mirrors my changes/thoughts pretty well.

Pederson wasn't terrible down back last week in the second half, and his limitations (whilst fairly large), aren't as easily exposed down back as they are up forward.

I'd keep McDonald down back and throw Garland forward, it's worked before.

JKH should come in, would be a good game to give him a full run on the park. Only alternative is to play someone else experienced and keep him as a sub, possibly Gawn?

Roos talking positional swaps instead of wholesale changes. I'd give this a try:

FB: Georgiou Pedersen Terlich

HB: Howe Frawley Grimes

C: Watts Jones Vince

HF: Bail McDonald Trengove

FF: JKH Dunn Byrnes

Foll: Spencer Cross Tyson

Int: Fitzpatrick, Toumpas Viney Blease

Out: M. Jones, Michie,

In: Blease, Viney

- Howe to the backline as flagged by Roos

- Dunn forward

- Pedersen to FB to play on Giles/Patton

- McDonald to CHF so we have a high work rate and high energy guy forward

- Toumpas to be the 7th defender in the rotation for some run and skills behind the ball

- JKH in to the starting team

Pedersen on Patton - lol

Otherwise some of those changes could work. I don't really like the idea of playing with our back line (Dunn, Frawely, McDonald, Garland, Grimes and Terlich) but I guess due to the lack of forwards/need for change we have no choice. I hope Strauss gets a game this week, Tappy/Jetta are slow but could provide some aggression in the forward line (rather him than Pedo or Byrnes). I really feel for the team - they must lack real confidence due to the lack of talls up forward. Kent must come in if fit.

I can't see Viney or Garland coming in - maybe Gawn. Viney would make a big difference (could play forward pocket with midfield stintsor play as sub).

Ins: Kent, Strauss, Blease, Tappy/Jetta and Gawn/Viney (if fit)

Outs: M. Jones/Bail/Trengove, Spencer (if Gawns fit), Georgiou and Pedo/Fitzy

Edited April 3, 201411 yr by Young Dee

Pedersen on Patton - lol

Otherwise some of those changes could work. I don't really like the idea of playing with our back line (Dunn, Frawely, McDonald, Garland, Grimes and Terlich) but I guess due to the lack of forwards/need for change we have no choice. I hope Strauss gets a game this week, Tappy/Jetta are slow but could provide some aggression in the forward line (rather him than Pedo or Byrnes). I really feel for the team - they must lack real confidence due to the lack of talls up forward. Kent must come in if fit.

I can't see Viney or Garland coming in - maybe Gawn. Viney would make a big difference (could play forward pocket with midfield stintsor play as sub).

Ins: Kent, Strauss, Blease, Tappy/Jetta and Gawn/Viney (if fit)

Outs: M. Jones/Bail/Trengove, Spencer (if Gawns fit), Georgiou and Pedo/Fitzy

Pederson on Patton isn't that far fetched, in fact I think they'd be fairly well matched and Pederson will be able to handle him strength wise. If that fails, Frawley or McDonald will be able to rotate.

Kent definitely should come in if fit but why on earth would you want Strauss in? He's done literally nothing when he has been playing and his so called 'elite' kicking is yet to be seen. He's the kind of player that needs to be delisted as we move forward, a player we can't afford to keep waiting on to become a gun. Blease is another and Tapscott too.

I really do hope Roos tries Frawley up forward for at least a quarter. If it doesn't work, he can throw him back onto Cameron and try McDonald up forward.

Tommy Mac can't kick. No use him working hard up the wings and then turning it over on the HFF.

He is better to run with Cameron, who otherwise could have an absolute day out.

FB: Garland - Frawley - Pederson

HB: Grimes - McDonald - Terlich

C: Vince - N.Jones - Watts

HF: Byrnes - Fitz - Blease

FF: JKH - Dunn - Howe

R: Spencer - Tyson - Cross

I: Viney - M.Jones - Georgiou

S: Toumpas

Outs: Michie (have a run to get some touch), Bail, Trengove

Ins: Viney, Garland, Blease

Pederson on Patton isn't that far fetched, in fact I think they'd be fairly well matched and Pederson will be able to handle him strength wise. If that fails, Frawley or McDonald will be able to rotate.

Kent definitely should come in if fit but why on earth would you want Strauss in? He's done literally nothing when he has been playing and his so called 'elite' kicking is yet to be seen. He's the kind of player that needs to be delisted as we move forward, a player we can't afford to keep waiting on to become a gun. Blease is another and Tapscott too.

I really do hope Roos tries Frawley up forward for at least a quarter. If it doesn't work, he can throw him back onto Cameron and try McDonald up forward.

I have a soft spot for Strauss - maybe because he was a high draft pick he is harder to let go. Has speed and is a good kick (needs to adjust to AFL level)

I have a soft spot for Strauss - maybe because he was a high draft pick he is harder to let go. Has speed and is a good kick (needs to adjust to AFL level)

He's had long enough to adjust, even with his injuries.

Not having a go at you mate but I am seriously so f#$%ing sick of having a list full of battlers who are just not good enough to do anything at all. It makes me so angry that we are bloody pathetic on the field, but of course it's not their fault. I was never keen on mass culls but I wish we could just cut all of this dead shite from the list and forget about 'waiting for them to develop' when it's been well and truly long enough to see that they are rubbish.

It's quite possible and in some cases probable that it's because of development and the culture at the club at the time they arrived but I don't really care anymore. They're damaged goods and they have to go, else we (the supporters) will be tearing our hair out and becoming manic depressive because of them for the next 10 years.

Groups on Roosy's whiteboard are:

Jetta, Hunt, Harmes, Clisby, Blease - Most likely the definite no group

Tapscott, Toumpas, Barry, Nicholson, Michie, Gawn - The maybes

McKenzie, Byrnes, Kennedy-Harris, Viney, Matt Jones, Kent - The most likelys

Spencer, N. Jones, Tyson - Starting on-ballers