One down ...

Ok. Watts was terrific, full facking stop. Toumpas is improving rapidly. Frawley was dreadful.

I said early in the week i felt it was our game to lose, and after watching the game i still don't feel as though we were outplayed, we have improved so much but it's impossible to win games if you don't kick straight, skill errors can be forgiven, missing the amount of shots we did tonight is the reason we aren't singing the song right now.

very happy with how a few of our boys played, Jack Watts looked like a Superstar, Vince is a huge pickup, Toumpas and Trengove were impressive, Nathan Jones looks even better if that was possible.

Lost two players very early, but other than that there were no excuses. We should have won that game. We didn't. That isn't good enough.

We were competitive but burnt some chances. We were also very stiff not to have a couple of talls up forward.

I'm still trying to shake my anger re Frawley. He spilled a hand pass streaming into goal just as we looked to get the run on. Thought it was pivotal.

Howe and Fitz needed to stand up with the lack of forward options. I'll let Fitz off, but Howe had a shocker.

Some poor skill errors didn't help as well, and we seemed to panick a lot.

We need to learn how to brush and side step tackles better in contested situations. The Saint seemed to move the ball quickly from contests and back their teammate to run onto the loose ball or to evade the tackler.

The injury to Tommy Mac also didn't help at all

It isn't how, it's how many. We need to find ways to win games like that against crap opposition. The chances will be few and far between.

I hope everyone can now see we will never be a good side with the likes of Pedersen, Spencer and Byrnes in the side.

Howe needed to step up.

Can't remember getting one holding the ball.

Not impressed with tonight - only good thing was Watts.

Someone tell me I'm being unfair. But fack me dead.

Frawley couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat. Think about adding Garland, Dawes, Gawn, Viney and Hogan into that side and there is a lot to like. Can't win games without a forward line.

Jack Grimes is not AFL standard

Please take him out of the banner

My kingdom for some fit tall forwards.

Enough positives to not be totally depressed but boy we need someone to take a mark inside 50 and please no more Pederson.

Someone tell me I'm being unfair. But fack me dead.

Which bit? If you mean Frawley, no way. The guy asks for direction and success then totally bails on contributing to it.

I HATE THIS CLUB! SACK ROOS! BWWWWARRRRGH!

O.K. Don't get too excited.

The truth is that there was one reason and one reason only why we lost.

There was a grand total of zero up forward. Howe went missing and with him any chance we would win the game.

We had more possessions (60 more), more scoring shots and more inside 50s.
We clearly need a target up forward. Even one of Dawes, Clark or Hogan would have made a huge difference tonight.
Pedo, while a good trier, isn't of Dawes' or Clark's class.
Disappointing to lose but clearly the problems are fixable.

Enough positives to not be totally depressed but boy we need someone to take a mark inside 50 and please no more Pederson.

So should we give Max King a run up there. Jamar maybe? Seriously, what's your alternative?

Should of traded pick 9 or drafted Sheed or Dunstan.

Watts looks so composed in traffic & has a really nice side step. Was great to see tonight.

Put a forward line in place and we'll look much better

My kingdom for some fit tall forwards.

So true Song but I wish we had taken those chances and not gifted a few. Facking, facking Frawley

I HATE THIS CLUB! SACK ROOS! BWWWWARRRRGH!

O.K. Don't get too excited.

The truth is that there was one reason and one reason only why we lost.

There was a grand total of zero up forward. Howe went missing and with him any chance we would win the game.

We had more possessions (6 more), more scoring shots and more inside 50s.

We clearly need a target up forward. Even one of Dawes, Clark or Hogan would have made a huge difference tonight.

Pedo, while a good trier, isn't of Dawes' or Clark's class.

Disappointing to lose but clearly the problems are fixable.

We also could have had the blokes who were there kick straight. For all the talk about a lack of a forward line, we only needed a few of those easy ones to be converted. No excuses, forward line targets or not.

Sometimes I seriously wonder if there is a curse on this club. Tonight is just another occaision.

So many get table shots for goal. They pong them from everywhere. Our only key tall forward gets knocked out. Our best defender for their best forward is lame. I could go on.

Having said that. Pederson is an absolute liability.

Should of traded pick 9 or drafted Sheed or Dunstan.

Shouldn't have smashed that bottle of vodka.

I said early in the week i felt it was our game to lose, and after watching the game i still don't feel as though we were outplayed, we have improved so much but it's impossible to win games if you don't kick straight, skill errors can be forgiven, missing the amount of shots we did tonight is the reason we aren't singing the song right now.

very happy with how a few of our boys played, Jack Watts looked like a Superstar, Vince is a huge pickup, Toumpas and Trengove were impressive, Nathan Jones looks even better if that was possible.

From where I was sitting he got to the ball but could never get 10cm on his opponent - still slow as last year.

Most of his disposals where useless - handballs whilst getting tackled

Should of traded pick 9 or drafted Sheed or Dunstan.

You're a clown, we haven't seen Salem play, i know very knowledgeable people who rate his much higher than those two, even higher than Josh kelly.