Jump to content

Most improved 2014

Featured Replies

I agree with 'Monoccular' ... "The team" is where we'll hopefully see the greatest improvement (and in particular, our style of play)

Nathan Jones might take it up to another level or 2 (he's our best player but you can always get better)

For dramatic improvement, it could be any number of players ... Watts, Trengove, Toumpas, Viney, Frawley, Grimes and McDonald could all get a lot better. Hopefully Frawley can recapture his 2010 form. Garland is another one who can take it to another level.

There's quite a number in all reality. The upside is that there aren't many of our players who can't improve their own game quite substantially (leaving aside all our new players, where it's difficult to make a judgement)

Roos should be able to get the best out of the better players and also, get the most out of the rest. We'll need 6 players to have 'A' grade years if we're going to march up the ladder (or close to 'A' grade years - in other words, 6 players need to have very good season's)... it's entirely possible.

The other vital position where we need to get a lot better is our main Ruckman/Follower. Someone has to make that position his own without any fear of his spot being questioned. If all our tall timber are fit it might be Clark (if he's fit) Otherwise, one of our ruckmen has to put his hand up and start having a real influence.

 

Howe was impressive. Gets my vote with Dom Barry the bolter.

The interesting part about improvement is that given good structures and a game plan that can be executed, improvement becomes easier.

For example - Jordie McKenzie - limited talent. Undeniably courageous and will always be found at the bottom of the pack.

For the last two years we have had zero spread so he would get the ball and see nothing but congestion and our players standing next to him with opponents on them.

Watching the likes of Cross and Vince peel off on Friday night - seeing some spread gives the likes of McKenzie more simple options than he hasn't had for the last two years.

That may mean that he will become a better player not because of more ability but because of playing in a better team.

It is not coincidence that players at Hawthorn and Geelong improve rapidly - some players that I would venture are no better than some on our list. They shine because of disciplined structures.

 

Howe was impressive. Gets my vote with Dom Barry the bolter.

I'm not a bookie but I'm pretty confident that Dom Barry wont play a senior game in 2014 .He needs another year at least at Casey. He was so raw last year that I really think this year is equivalent to his first year.

The interesting part about improvement is that given good structures and a game plan that can be executed, improvement becomes easier.

For example - Jordie McKenzie - limited talent. Undeniably courageous and will always be found at the bottom of the pack.

For the last two years we have had zero spread so he would get the ball and see nothing but congestion and our players standing next to him with opponents on them.

Watching the likes of Cross and Vince peel off on Friday night - seeing some spread gives the likes of McKenzie more simple options than he hasn't had for the last two years.

That may mean that he will become a better player not because of more ability but because of playing in a better team.

It is not coincidence that players at Hawthorn and Geelong improve rapidly - some players that I would venture are no better than some on our list. They shine because of disciplined structures.

And the Good players around them!


"Most improved" is always a bit of a double edged sword, or a trick question.

Does it mean someone who had a real cr@p year becoming ordinary, or someone who had a really good year becoming absolutely brilliant?

That is why i picked THE TEAM.

  • Author

Considering How we went last year Maybe the better question is who will reach AFL standard

My first Supercoach selection for this year was Frawley because with a decent coach, and some midfielders who know how to defensively spread, he will be back to his arrogant, monstering, attacking football.

But Trenners will be our most improved by a long way. A full preseason, no captaincy burden, and some other good footballers in the midfield to help him and Jones. At his best he is intelligent, has great vision, is a very good mark, is a great kick for goal, and a mongrel when he tackles.

 

And the Good players around them!

probably the biggest point that I didnt articulate too well.

I agree with most that it will be one of the following:

Trengove

Grimes

Toump

Strauss

Howe

Dawes

I still have my doubts with regards to Watts ability to put head over ball. Thats what I will be looking for in the Geelong game.

I think Viney will lead from the front - but thats no real big surprise - was great when he got on the park last year.

Also expecting a big year from Tyson - but he wasn't here last year so doesnt really count (Michie - same).


My first Supercoach selection for this year was Frawley because with a decent coach, and some midfielders who know how to defensively spread, he will be back to his arrogant, monstering, attacking football.

But Trenners will be our most improved by a long way. A full preseason, no captaincy burden, and some other good footballers in the midfield to help him and Jones. At his best he is intelligent, has great vision, is a very good mark, is a great kick for goal, and a mongrel when he tackles.

Mine was Watts, he should rack them up as a midfielder.

Can be picked either down back - or up forward - in the supercoach.

Vince, Tyson, Hogan and JKH look the goods as well.


Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Featured Content

  • REPORT: Port Adelaide

    Of course, it’s not the backline, you might argue and you would probably be right. It’s the boot studder (do they still have them?), the midfield, the recruiting staff, the forward line, the kicking coach, the Board, the interchange bench, the supporters, the folk at Casey, the head coach and the club psychologist  It’s all of them and all of us for having expectations that were sufficiently high to have believed three weeks ago that a restoration of the Melbourne team to a position where we might still be in contention for a finals berth when the time for the midseason bye arrived. Now let’s look at what happened over the period of time since Melbourne overwhelmed the Sydney Swans at the MCG in late May when it kicked 8.2 to 5.3 in the final quarter (and that was after scoring 3.8 to two straight goals in the second term). 

      • Clap
      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 2 replies
  • CASEY: Essendon

    Casey’s unbeaten run was extended for at least another fortnight after the Demons overran a persistent Essendon line up by 29 points at ETU Stadium in Port Melbourne last night. After conceding the first goal of the evening, Casey went on a scoring spree from about ten minutes in, with five unanswered majors with its fleet of midsized runners headed by the much improved Paddy Cross who kicked two in quick succession and livewire Ricky Mentha who also kicked an early goal. Leading the charge was recruit of the year, Riley Bonner while Bailey Laurie continued his impressive vein of form. With Tom Campbell missing from the lineup, Will Verrall stepped up to the plate demonstrating his improvement under the veteran ruckman’s tutelage. The Demons were looking comfortable for much of the second quarter and held a 25-point lead until the Bombers struck back with two goals in the shadows of half time. On the other side of the main break their revival continued with first three goals of the half. Harry Sharp, who had been quiet scrambled in the Demons’ first score of the third term to bring the margin back to a single point at the 17 minute mark and the game became an arm-wrestle for the remainder of the quarter and into the final moments of the last.

      • Clap
    • 0 replies
  • PREGAME: Gold Coast

    The Demons have the Bye next week but then are on the road once again when they come up against the Gold Coast Suns on the Gold Coast in what could be a last ditch effort to salvage their season. Who comes in and who comes out?

      • Thanks
    • 63 replies
  • PODCAST: Port Adelaide

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 16th June @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we dissect the Dees disappointing loss to the Power.
    Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
    Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/

      • Thanks
    • 31 replies
  • POSTGAME: Port Adelaide

    The Demons simply did not take their opportunities when they presented themselves and ultimately when down by 25 points effectively ending their finals chances. Goal kicking practice during the Bye?

      • Haha
      • Thanks
    • 252 replies
  • VOTES: Port Adelaide

    Max Gawn has an insurmountable lead in the Demonland Player of the Year ahead of Jake Bowey, Christian Petracca, Clayton Oliver and Kozzy Pickett. Your votes please; 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 & 1.

      • Thanks
    • 31 replies