Here are the odds for next year's rising star. It looks to be a very strong field - $14 for Jesse Hogan is tempting. I can't believe Jonathan Patton is still eligible.

2014 AFL RISING STAR MARKET

$6 Jack Martin (GC)

$10 Brodie Grundy (Coll)

$12 Mitch Grigg (Adel), Jake Stringer (WB)

$14 Joe Daniher (Ess), Jed Anderson (Haw), Jesse Hogan (Melb), Nathan Hrovat (WB)

$21 Jack Billings (StK), Tom Boyd (GWS), Josh Kelly (GWS), James Aish (BL), Luke McDonald (NM)

$26 Troy Menzel (Carl), Jonathan Patton (GWS), Lachie Hunter (WB), Billy Longer (StK), Jesse Lonergan (GC)

$34 Marco Paparone (BL), Dayle Garlett (Haw), Jackson Thurlow (Geel), Kade Kolodjashnij (GC), Matthew Scharenberg (Coll), Shane Kersten (Geel)

$41 Nathan Wright (StK), Sam Colquhoun (PA), Harry Cunningham (Syd), Nick Graham (Carl), Marcus Bontempelli (WB), Christian Salem (Melb), Nathan Freeman (Coll), Dom Sheed (WC), Ben Lennon (Rich), Patrick Cripps (Carl), Luke Dunstan (StK), Matt Crouch (Adel), Jackson Paine (BL)

Jesse Hogan at $14

That is value if I ever saw it

Who's Mitch Grigg?

Hogan at $14 is excellent value

Yeah, what is going on with Mitch Grigg. Definitely doesn't belong with that company up the top.

Is Toumpas still eligible ? Training form thus far would suggest a big improvement.

Is Toumpas still eligible ? Training form thus far would suggest a big improvement.

Not eligible.

bulldust.

this is a media award if ever there was one.

forget how good they might be in the future

put yourself in some media churnalists shoes. they already know Hogan will be amazing. you cant bet on this until round 10 when they have their favourite.

As with all awards being mid field awards these days then Martin as favourite makes sense.

Hogan polled well at VFL level which is against the trend for key forwards so he does get noticed.

I doubt Martin will win it, I think he will start strongly and then fade out as the season progresses...he still has the body of a child.

It will go to a tall next year, IMO. One of Boyd, Stringer, Hogan, Grundy will win. I'd put my money on Grundy...the media loves him, and he'll be the #1 ruckman at Collingwood all season.

Get on Garlett. The lad is a gun

I'll get on Jesse Hogan at those odds thank you.

The Dees that are eligible for the 2014 Rising Star are Hogan (14), Barry (101), Salem (41), Kennedy-Harris (101), Hunt (101), Harmes (101) and King (101).

Hogan seems the only one that would be worth putting any money on.

For the record, if you do plan on putting money on him, do it through TAB, they're offering $17 compared to Sportsbet's $14.

Have spoken with a couple of people up nth at the Suns, when they said that M. Blight said he is the best jnr he has seen, its almost enough for me. Will be electric to watch.

Get on Garlett. The lad is a gun

I don't think he'll play enough games, money down the drain.

Get on Garlett. The lad is a gun

He won't make it.

He won't make it.

Another naysayer.

He's made it onto a list, when many were saying he wouldn't..

He will make it, and he will be a very valuable player for the Hawks given time.

He has all the support he needs being at a club at AFl level. The chances of him failing are now much much smaller.

What a ridiculous statement.

As for the rising star, I'd back Martin.

Don't matter that his body isn't developed. The guy is unlike anyone I've seen.

As for the rising star, I'd back Martin.

Don't matter that his body isn't developed. The guy is unlike anyone I've seen.

Martin and O'Meara not to mention Ablett, Bennell, Swallow etc etc etc. They will be a good team very soon.

Martin and O'Meara not to mention Ablett, Bennell, Swallow etc etc etc. They will be a good team very soon.

Scary to think about really.

He's made it onto a list, when many were saying he wouldn't..

He has all the support he needs being at a club at AFl level. The chances of him failing are now much much smaller.

What a ridiculous statement.

The chances of him failing if he never made it onto an AFL list were 100% so to say they are now much smaller is indeed a ridiculous statement of the obvious.

Edited December 2, 201311 yr by Fifty-5

Scary to think about really.

They've gone about the whole thing so much more successfully than GWS, in my book. Which is odd, because you'd think that having piles and piles of high picks would work out.

Then again, where have I heard that before??

The chances of him failing if he never made it onto an AFL list were 100% so to say they are now much smaller is indeed a ridiculous statement of the obvious.

100%? Is that right?

I should never have written anything then.

Edited December 2, 201311 yr by stevethemanjordan

They've gone about the whole thing so much more successfully than GWS, in my book. Which is odd, because you'd think that having piles and piles of high picks would work out.

Then again, where have I heard that before??

You can't underestimate the influence Ablett has had on that group. He would make any young midfield walk taller and play harder. He's accelerated the growth of those young mids in a huge way.

Throw Ablett into the midfield of GWS and he would have had a similar effect.

Really proves how important it is to have the players of his calibre teaching and mentoring young kids. Even Geelong now. Look at how well developed some of their younger midfielders are at around the 50 game mark in comparison to other 50 gamers.

You can't underestimate the influence Ablett has had on that group. He would make any young midfield walk taller and play harder. He's accelerated the growth of those young mids in a huge way.

Throw Ablett into the midfield of GWS and he would have had a similar effect.

Really proves how important it is to have the players of his calibre teaching and mentoring young kids. Even Geelong now. Look at how well developed some of their younger midfielders are at around the 50 game mark in comparison to other 50 gamers.

GWS needed to make Pendleberry or Selwood the offer he couldn't refuse a couple of years back. I think they did have a shot at Pendles but maybe they needed to offer more. If Scully is work 1mill Pendles is worth 2 at least.

Edited December 2, 201311 yr by rjay