Brad Miller joins Roos' coaching panel

[nutbean 8,837]

I disagree with those comparing him to Dawes - They both share a similar trait of being a "hit up" CHF but Dawes is a cleverer footballer who makes right decisions ( when he aint injured) - Miller - not so much.

You could not fault Millers endeavors and from all accounts displayed good leadership on the ground and off.

Like all assistants and development coaches, we have little idea of who are good bad or otherwise so if it Brad is good enough for PR then thats good enough for me.

Welcome aboard.

( a perfect example of our lack of knowledge on who we think would make a good or bad assistant - I am sure not many would have picked Brett Allison at the end of his career as good coaching material but from all reports he is meant to be excellent)

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Voss - out of a job

Hird - suspended a year and his clubs a disgrace

Buckley - hasn't achieved anything

Yet we look at the grand final this week

Lyon - journeyman player

Clarkson - best thing he ever did on the field was belt a bloke at a London trial game

You seem to think that if we load up on successful players as coaches then that will just bring success. That's not true at all. We need hard working and committed people to bring a culture of hard work and if they are skilled at their jobs then success will come. It's also a lot of anger for a development coaching role when Miller still has a huge gap in playing career than Greaves, Nicholls and Satterley.

well Buckley is in the top 6 at this stage and Hird has got into trouble but it's pretty clear the bloke can coach

I think up until Clarkson won a flag it was something like 10 flags in a row to coaches who had captained their clubs as players

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

1) I remember copping an earful from you once because I dared say that going around making jokes about tanking, while not a rock solid case for conviction, was pretty damn stupid and amateurish. You then proceeded to spit the dummy and told me that I, like everyone else, wanted us to tank as it was the smartest way to go about things and all I was was a revisionist. That's not the case and I think history shows the scoreboard as: CBF 1 C&B 0.

2) You still tell us how getting rid of Junior Mac was a good idea as he was 'finished'. The CEO has basically come out and said it was a bad idea (more the handling if anything).

3) In a thread recently, you were asking me to prove that the appointment of the two Jacks caused animosity. (See said thread for my reply).

4) To be honest, I reckoned Millsy's time was up as well and we could have let him go at the end of 2010 (I get the feeling how it was handled was another Cuddles Connolly special as Brad didn't even want a farewell game and decided to play the year out at Casey in a winning team). However, when both he and Junior were booted, we lost two locker room leaders and we are where were are today.

It took 'till about mid year for the penny to drop with you but you still come on here and defend the indefensible. I don't mind contrary views but it seems every one of your rebuttals starts with 'What garbage' or some loaded statement.

1) yeah i'll cop that

2) stand by that

3) I never liked/defended to co-captain appointment

4) just because a bloke has been around a long time it doesn't automatically make him a good leader

in summary the previous regime was a shocker, but not everything that gets blamed on them is fair

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

You are acting like a dead set peanut. Again.

is that a good example of adhering to the code of conduct Nasher?

a bloke says a guy is good to coach us because he is used to disappointment and I'm the peanut

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

If Roos thinks he can do it, that's enough for me.

that's the only bit you needed to say. The bit that discusses footy.

FWIW it is a fair point

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Well I loved Brad Miller during his playing days and rapt that he is coming back to the fold. I am certain Paul Roos knows what he is doing.

how could you have loved a bloke that occupied a spot and hardly ever had any impact as we lost match after match. I don't get it. Miller's popularity seems to have blossomed with time, I don't remember a lot of praise for him when he was playing.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

It's a entry level dev position.

so basically you are saying 'who cares it is not important?'

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

If a player who is drafted at No 50 "underperforms" when he doesn't crack the top ten, then we have 34 players each year that don't crack the top ten & "underperform".

Players can play to the best of their ability & finish 20th in the B & F without "underperfotming"

the position you are drafted at has nothing to do with it whatsoever

[Whispering_Jack 28,118]

Miller time for Demons as ex-forward returns

Miller's delisting at the end of 2010 along with James McDonald and the loss of Cameron Bruce to Hawthorn was seen as a mistake as the club battled for leadership and cohesion under Mark Neeld.

I don't quite understand this. Dean Bailey was the coach of the club when Miller was delisted, Junior was retired and Bruce decided to go to Hawthorn. He also coached the club in the following season and all three events were seen as a mistake during 2011 well before Mark Neeld took up the coaching reins.

The historical revisionism that abounds today is nothing short of appalling.

[old dee 23,256]

Miller time for Demons as ex-forward returns

I don't quite understand this. Dean Bailey was the coach of the club when Miller was delisted, Junior was retired and Bruce decided to go to Hawthorn. He also coached the club in the following season and all three events were seen as a mistake during 2011 well before Mark Neeld took up the coaching reins.

The historical revisionism that abounds today is nothing short of appalling.

Under no circumstances let the truth get in the road of a good story.

[John Crow Batty 8,352]

Miller time for Demons as ex-forward returns

I don't quite understand this. Dean Bailey was the coach of the club when Miller was delisted, Junior was retired and Bruce decided to go to Hawthorn. He also coached the club in the following season and all three events were seen as a mistake during 2011 well before Mark Neeld took up the coaching reins.

The historical revisionism that abounds today is nothing short of appalling.

Not revisionism. Just an honest mistake muddied by the turbulence of our recent past. He really meant Schwab. Bailey was just a puppet on a string. Thats why he is in consideration for the Bombers caretaker. A good foil for new puppet master Hird.

[P-man 13,309]

Were you expecting Leigh Matthews or something? I was surprised too, but these development coach positions all seem to be filled by low profile/inexperienced coaches. What say we give the bloke a chance before we pan him, given that being the best player has never been a prerequisite for being a good coach.

Agreed. I was as surprised as others but in Roosy we trust.

Welcome back, Pia.

You too, Brad, I guess.

[Geddy Lee 582]

Brad Miller was tipped to be captain for a long time in his younger years. His football didn't live up to that idea, but clearly a great guy and inspirational presence inside a club.

Another good call by Roos and PJ.

I think he might have been on the 2003 membership card? . . .

[sue 8,594]

Just PM me Sue and I'll let you know where you're going wrong.

BB, my comments were in response to and quoted C&B. Are you and he the same person?

[beelzebub 22,706]

Sue..Ben Hur would be B-H

[Bitter but optimistic 21,573]

Sue..Ben Hur would be B-H

Not a mistake you'd want to live with. Anyway real point of post. Why did you change your name? Beelzebub was a real kickarse demon - Satan's right hand man as it were. He had serious street cred.

[old dee 23,256]

Not a mistake you'd want to live with. Anyway real point of post. Why did you change your name? Beelzebub was a real kickarse demon - Satan's right hand man as it were. He had serious street cred.

I have already berated him bbo

He cannot change it back for another two weeks.

It was a show of support for Roosy!

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

People here realise Miller is coaching, not playing?

[old dee 23,256]

People here realise Miller is coaching, not playing?

More the pity CB

I can think of about 15 he would better than right now.

[beelzebub 22,706]

Not a mistake you'd want to live with. Anyway real point of post. Why did you change your name? Beelzebub was a real kickarse demon - Satan's right hand man as it were. He had serious street cred.

[1964nowMORE 456]

Some hysterical responses on here....I imagine the exact same responses had we ever reported Al Clarkson was becoming an Assistant in his first ever coaching gig post playing.

I've no idea if he can coach, but I do know he wasn't ever the play I wanted him to be - but did play 170 odd games on what seemed limited ability after being recruited about pick 50. A pretty handy career that we'd have been thrilled if any of our recent high picks had!

Welcome back Millsy.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Welcome back Brad you have to start a coaching career somewhere, so where better than the club where your career began.

[sue 8,594]

Sue..Ben Hur would be B-H

Sorry, just a typo. Maybe I misinterpreted B-H too. May PM as he suggested.

[beelzebub 22,706]

Sorry, just a typo. Maybe I misinterpreted B-H too. May PM as he suggested.

He is a morphing type lol. Hmm..hang on...pot, kettle... umm

[samcantstandya 963]

how could you have loved a bloke that occupied a spot and hardly ever had any impact as we lost match after match. I don't get it. Miller's popularity seems to have blossomed with time, I don't remember a lot of praise for him when he was playing.

He frustrated the hell out of me as a player and he was an average footballer who never excelled.Hopeffully he will be a gr8 coach.I hope so.