I can' t see us getting a star mid in a trade, maybe a couple of good ones but not a star.

I think we will have to draft our star mids and improve Viney and Toumpas and Blease.

I think we will get a star mid in the trade, now that Roos is on board they will want to play under him, especially if we have a priority pick to trade.

Sloane, Martin, Swallow, Thomas, young Selwood, Adams, Yarran,maybe an Essendon player like a Zaharakis. One or two of these would be sensational.

I can' t see us getting a star mid in a trade, maybe a couple of good ones but not a star.

I think we will have to draft our star mids and improve Viney and Toumpas and Blease.

Depends on what you call a star?

What we have to decide (PP notwithstanding) is whether we can offer a trade that is a WIN/WIN for both clubs.

We have pick 2 and if a club wants either Aish or Scharenberg then they get a direct win out of the trade and obviously the two Adelaide clubs would be more interested in that scenario.

What do they have that would fit the No.2 value so we get a win out of it.

Forget Danger and Boak and Hartlett - they are not negotiable.

But Adelaide has Sloane - a tough, hard-running, tackling 23-year-old who fits the Roos-style of midfielder - eg: O'Keefe, McVeigh.

Given he was pick 44 Adelaide would feel they would have a win out of obtaining pick 2.

And I suspect we'd feel we get a win out of a mature ready-to-go midfielder who we know can play and one who has at least six more years of good footy left in them.

The only issue is that he's contracted until 2015 and may actually love Adelaide!

Bit to me that's the type of player we need if we don't go down the more predictable route of drafting a kid and hoping they become a star.

The best thing about all this is that Play manager Lynch is oneof Roos best mates, so the inside word on players that want to come back home will be a huge advantage

It's called the wing.

doesnt work hard enough for the wing either.

He's either half back or half forward

The best thing about all this is that Play manager Lynch is oneof Roos best mates, so the inside word on players that want to come back home will be a huge advantage

Oh no, not number 9 from GWS.

Depends on what you call a star?

What we have to decide (PP notwithstanding) is whether we can offer a trade that is a WIN/WIN for both clubs.

We have pick 2 and if a club wants either Aish or Scharenberg then they get a direct win out of the trade and obviously the two Adelaide clubs would be more interested in that scenario.

What do they have that would fit the No.2 value so we get a win out of it.

Forget Danger and Boak and Hartlett - they are not negotiable.

But Adelaide has Sloane - a tough, hard-running, tackling 23-year-old who fits the Roos-style of midfielder - eg: O'Keefe, McVeigh.

Given he was pick 44 Adelaide would feel they would have a win out of obtaining pick 2.

And I suspect we'd feel we get a win out of a mature ready-to-go midfielder who we know can play and one who has at least six more years of good footy left in them.

The only issue is that he's contracted until 2015 and may actually love Adelaide!

Bit to me that's the type of player we need if we don't go down the more predictable route of drafting a kid and hoping they become a star.

The first few picks in a draft are gold and a very good player like Sloane is not worth say pick 2. Therefore unless there was other consideration I couldn't see us doing this sort of deal.

As for a star, Cotchin, Selwood, Ablett, O'Meara, Boak, Pendlebury, Beams etc are stars. None of them would be cleared for pick 2.

It is very difficult, but this coach has done it with the Josh Kennedy's and Ted Richard' of this world. that is the way we will probably go.

Identify a couple of very good mids and make a play. Draft some more mids and a couple of small forwards. Identify players not getting a run who he thinks can develop. Improve and develop our own.

I thought that we would get a mid first or end first round priority. After the presser I would not be surprised if we get pick no. 1 on the basis that it be traded for players only or forfeited. At least all clubs could then bid for Boyd. GC would be interested for sure!!. Would add a lot of interest to trade week.

The best thing about all this is that Play manager Lynch is oneof Roos best mates, so the inside word on players that want to come back home will be a huge advantage

Oh the joy we should have as he gathers his team around him.

Oh no, not number 9 from GWS.

No chance we have 20 ordinary's right now

From what i've seen Watts does not go hard enough to be a midfielder, although could be a good prospect

I agree that up until now Watts hasn't shown that he could be a midfielder. But that was when we had sub-standard coaching and development. It's possible he may never make a midfielder but he has the speed and the skills - just needs to get hardness and desire (and probably a higher level of fitness).

In short, I'm hopeful that under this new regime players will improve in so many ways. Watts improving to be a quality midfielder is my main individual hope.

Depends on what you call a star?

What we have to decide (PP notwithstanding) is whether we can offer a trade that is a WIN/WIN for both clubs.

We have pick 2 and if a club wants either Aish or Scharenberg then they get a direct win out of the trade and obviously the two Adelaide clubs would be more interested in that scenario.

What do they have that would fit the No.2 value so we get a win out of it.

Forget Danger and Boak and Hartlett - they are not negotiable.

But Adelaide has Sloane - a tough, hard-running, tackling 23-year-old who fits the Roos-style of midfielder - eg: O'Keefe, McVeigh.

Given he was pick 44 Adelaide would feel they would have a win out of obtaining pick 2.

And I suspect we'd feel we get a win out of a mature ready-to-go midfielder who we know can play and one who has at least six more years of good footy left in them.

The only issue is that he's contracted until 2015 and may actually love Adelaide!

Bit to me that's the type of player we need if we don't go down the more predictable route of drafting a kid and hoping they become a star.

the best way i could see this working is if we are going to trade pick 2 to adelaide, then we would be getting sloane and another 1 and maybe a late draft pick.

so i imagine something like sloane and mckernan (who wants to leave) and pick 30 something. we offload pick 30 something and mckernan to a club like carlton or someone who wants a forward and get a mid/forward off them?

or the real best option will be trading pick 2 for dale thomas, who if he decides he wants to leave would be an amazing option to trade for, which would mean we could draft daniel cross and that would be helpful also

We are in a good position because Roos does not know what a No 1 pick looks like. He will trade the low pick/s for a really good player and turn our late picks into good grunt men.

I think us getting pick 1 as a priority pick (and us being forced to/ bent on trading it) actually suits the AFL and most opposition clubs also.

GWS already have enough talent, without needing to secure a 2nd of the games 4 pre-eminent power forwards.

They really don't need any more assistance. To get clearly the best player in this draft also would be rubbing it in.

Kinda like GoldCoast having Ablett, Prestia, Bennell and O'Meara then being able to add Jack Martin.

Come on - how dominant do they want them to be??

Also, there are plenty of clubs like the bulldogs or saints who are going to continue to founder without a good forward to straighten them up a bit in the coming years.

Share the wealth, assist MFC, avoid a ludicrous situation in a few years where on GCS and GWS can compete for the flag.

the best way i could see this working is if we are going to trade pick 2 to adelaide, then we would be getting sloane and another 1 and maybe a late draft pick.

so i imagine something like sloane and mckernan (who wants to leave) and pick 30 something. we offload pick 30 something and mckernan to a club like carlton or someone who wants a forward and get a mid/forward off them?

or the real best option will be trading pick 2 for dale thomas, who if he decides he wants to leave would be an amazing option to trade for, which would mean we could draft daniel cross and that would be helpful also

Not sure I'd want to risk pick No.2 on 27-year-old Daisy who has a serious foot injury.

As I said, if we do trade pick No.2, we would want a young Roosy-style running player in the 20-24yo bracket.

As for Cross, we would be able to pick him up as a free-agent if we wanted him, which I very much doubt given he is the equivalent stupidity of drafting Rodan - although I accept he might be a better player - but he is 30 and we are a developmental side!

I think us getting pick 1 as a priority pick (and us being forced to/ bent on trading it) actually suits the AFL and most opposition clubs also.

GWS already have enough talent, without needing to secure a 2nd of the games 4 pre-eminent power forwards.

They really don't need any more assistance. To get clearly the best player in this draft also would be rubbing it in.

Kinda like GoldCoast having Ablett, Prestia, Bennell and O'Meara then being able to add Jack Martin.

Come on - how dominant do they want them to be??

Also, there are plenty of clubs like the bulldogs or saints who are going to continue to founder without a good forward to straighten them up a bit in the coming years.

Share the wealth, assist MFC, avoid a ludicrous situation in a few years where on GCS and GWS can compete for the flag.

i was trying to work out a trade in my head for both st kilda and western bulldogs and it is near impossible

pick 1 with st kilda for armitage or jack steven but no way they would give them up?

pick 1 with bulldogs for i have no idea, that would suit both clubs that is.

Not sure I'd want to risk pick No.2 on 27-year-old Daisy who has a serious foot injury.

As I said, if we do trade pick No.2, we would want a young Roosy-style running player in the 20-24yo bracket.

As for Cross, we would be able to pick him up as a free-agent if we wanted him, which I very much doubt given he is the equivalent stupidity of drafting Rodan - although I accept he might be a better player - but he is 30 and we are a developmental side!

No thank you we already have one x Collingwood crock

We lack depth more I believe. You named one established, good midfielder and two up and comers.

The rest are either not up to it or not good enough (possibly Sylvia excepted).

We need at least 10 midfielders who can do their role and aren't substandard players.

Roos said he 'May', think about trading Pick 2, for "a couple of Mids". my take is he means he wants more than one mid, & if he can get 2 for the price of 1, then maybe he'd deal.

..... what about young Selwood & Gaff for our Earliest Pick, + a player? if we got priority Pick 1, then it may be handy for someone who wants a Tall Power forward? or other young gun?

not sure saints wont give up steven

watters seems the sort to want to deal

r'oos is ddefinately prepared to deal anything for the betterment of the club .hes got a proven track record of that

but he will only want CLASS

not average

Not sure I'd want to risk pick No.2 on 27-year-old Daisy who has a serious foot injury.

As I said, if we do trade pick No.2, we would want a young Roosy-style running player in the 20-24yo bracket.

As for Cross, we would be able to pick him up as a free-agent if we wanted him, which I very much doubt given he is the equivalent stupidity of drafting Rodan - although I accept he might be a better player - but he is 30 and we are a developmental side!

i think we will definitely love a player like cross on our list, it would give us much needed midfield leadership cost us nothing and could be groomed as an assistant coach (gws model)

he is nothing like rodan, different players, different abilities, different skills, very different people!

I never really agreed with the inclusion of rodan as i feel like he was past his time but cross could play 2-3 more years i think

i would think if we could bring in daisy and someone else from collingwood with pick 2 and cross in our midfield, it will definitely improve our list.

Roos has proven time and again that he is capable of taking fringe players from other clubs and turning them into very good players.

I'm confident he can do the same at Melbourne.

I think us getting pick 1 as a priority pick (and us being forced to/ bent on trading it) actually suits the AFL and most opposition clubs also.

GWS already have enough talent, without needing to secure a 2nd of the games 4 pre-eminent power forwards.

They really don't need any more assistance. To get clearly the best player in this draft also would be rubbing it in.

Kinda like GoldCoast having Ablett, Prestia, Bennell and O'Meara then being able to add Jack Martin.

Come on - how dominant do they want them to be??

Also, there are plenty of clubs like the bulldogs or saints who are going to continue to founder without a good forward to straighten them up a bit in the coming years.

Share the wealth, assist MFC, avoid a ludicrous situation in a few years where on GCS and GWS can compete for the flag.

That does make sense, as it gives all of the other clubs the chance to get Boyd, which would appeal to them.

If GWS have the pick they will probably keep it.

The other clubs would think, "well, if we wanted to get Boyd from GWS we would trade X anyway, so who cares if X goes to Melbourne".

Roos has proven time and again that he is capable of taking fringe players from other clubs and turning them into very good players.

I'm confident he can do the same at Melbourne.

It should be a significant aspect of his coaching that we've lacked. Not to say we haven't tried but we've been very ordinary at it.

Jones averaged 23.1 disposals per game in 2013, which is ranked 51st in the competition.. our next is Magner at 108, Terlich at 119, Sylvia 127, M.Jones 129. Trengove as a pick 2 in his 4th season came in at 170th.

So you look at that and it is obvious we are STAGGERINGLY deficient in terms of 'blokes that get a lot of the ball'!

I would go as far as to suggest we should trade BOTH our early picks to get 2 or 3 solid midfielders in, it will make an immediate and signifigant difference.

Best wishes to Mr Roos but there have been messiahs predicted before.

The former drug czar is telling this story to his replacement.

When they forced Khruschev out, he sat down and wrote two letters to his successor. He said

"When you get yourself into a situation you cant get out of, open the first letter, and youll be safe. When you get yourself into another situation you cant get out of, open the second letter."

Well, soon enough, this guy found himself in a tight place, so he opened the first letter which said Blame everything on me.

So he blames the old man, it worked like a charm. He got himself into a second situation he couldnt get out of, he opened the second letter. It said "Sit down, and write two letters."

Clearly Roos is a big fan of the "It's the midfield, stupid!" thread.

*Kudos for Baghdad Bob (aka Fan or was it Snoopy at the time? I can't recall) for producing a catchy titled thread of a big "Need" the supporters have been screaming for!

"Build it, and they will come"

3 votes to the person who names the movie that used this quote^ often.