Quite a good read.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-05/best-of-the-best

Prefer Hogan to boyd, simply because he is doing it against Men

Patton is unlucky with Injuries

They have Hogans kicking down on all the others and is the only reason he isn't at the top. It is improving the longer he is with us, plus as demonfan said he is performing against men

Edited September 5, 201312 yr by young dee enthusiast

I was actually surprised that he rated above Patton and Daniher. Man, with the right development around him we mightn't need a midfield.....

They have Hogans kicking down on all the others and is the only reason he isn't at the top. It is improving the longer he is with us, plus as demonfan said he is performing against men

From the snippets of footage I've seen his action is certainly loooking more fluid and natural than before.

Will all be great players for their clubs. Lets hope Hogan is the next Carey.

Will all be great players for their clubs. Lets hope Hogan is the next Carey.

As long as he doesn't root his mates wife

Edited September 5, 201312 yr by Srjennings

Take out that rubbish 'leadership' category (which he wasn't recruited for), and he's equal top, even with the kicking.

Interesting to read that they rare Hogans ability to play as a key defender as well. I've not read of such a thing... Did he spend some time down back as a junior?

Best thing, he is on top in aggression and they were always saying "loves to contest"

Best thing, he is on top in aggression and they were always saying "loves to contest"

Im sure we can correct that in no time down at MFC

It's Hogan all the way for me. Patton:Inured. Daniher: Seems to be a more talented Max Gawn type but can't kick and will take time. Boyd: Watts was touted as the next great forward. Hogan: Has performed against men. Has the size and the engine to slot in straight away.

IF (yeah, yeah) we get Pick 1 then there is no right or wrong decision on what we do with that pick - only what we do with that pick.

Do we go Boyd?

Do we get two mids with 1 and 3?

Do we trade for a young midfield star to be?

Each hypothetical has merit and downside, each one will be judged over time, each one will be seen as an important decision for our future.

Roos wrote in that article from months ago, when he was obviously starting to get his head around coaching in 2014, that he would trade either or both for established midfielders but when push comes to shove you don't want be a pushover.

Jeremy Cameron > all of them

Im sure we can correct that in no time down at MFC

You beat me to that call.

Jeremy Cameron > all of them

Disagree. Booting 60 goals isn't as hard as you think when the ball is getting kicked almost exclusively to you

Edited September 5, 201312 yr by Demonof1994

That's not to say he isn't a great player, but I think Hogan and Boyd have more potential

Take out that rubbish 'leadership' category (which he wasn't recruited for), and he's equal top, even with the kicking.

He lost overall by 1.6 points, but was docked 1.4 points (7.8 vs 9.2 for Boyd/Patton) for "size" when he is 195cm and 97kg. Patton is 197 cm and 100 kg. Not much different of you ask me, certainly not worth that big a gap in points. They also go on to talk up his versatility paying forward and back but is not scored according to that either.

Regardless the or of 100 criteria gives equal weir to marking, versatility etc. and ranks size and strength in different categories both equal to above. I'd much rather a player who can mark than is versatile, and leadership I agree is a bonus, and not important in a draftee: I'd much rather on field skills.

It is an interesting subjective take on it though. And it suggests we could be entering a new era of power forwards as the guard changes a bit.

Lol, that table reminded me of a pokemon stats page.

Hogan used Versatility! It's super-effective!

Boyd has fainted.

Lol, that table reminded me of a pokemon stats page.

Hogan used Versatility! It's super-effective!

Boyd has fainted.

A wild Daniher appeared. He used Sandstorm.

Disagree. Booting 60 goals isn't as hard as you think when the ball is getting kicked almost exclusively to you

As a 20 year old, getting the best defender each week and only having started playing footy a few years ago... I think it's very impressive.

Also considering they get belted every week.

Like with all players, well know in a couple of years.

Interesting to read that they rare Hogans ability to play as a key defender as well. I've not read of such a thing... Did he spend some time down back as a junior?

He played back quite a bit during his junior days, and did very well there apparently. His junior highlights video (YouTube?) shows him down back a lot. Versatile.

IF we are to get pick 1, I'm warming to the idea of using it on Boyd.

Otherwise, we'd want to get a hell of a lot for it, if we trade it.

Pick 1 for Sam Mayes and pick 8?

Pick 1 for MacRae and pick 5?

Pick 1 for Armitage and pick 4?

Pick 1 for Yarran and pick 12?

Pick 1 for Scooter Selwood and pick 7?

We'd be playing hardball, any way it goes.

IF we are to get pick 1, I'm warming to the idea of using it on Boyd.

Otherwise, we'd want to get a hell of a lot for it, if we trade it.

Pick 1 for Sam Mayes and pick 8?

Pick 1 for MacRae and pick 5?

Pick 1 for Armitage and pick 4?

Pick 1 for Yarran and pick 12?

Pick 1 for Scooter Selwood and pick 7?

We'd be playing hardball, any way it goes.

4 is cringe-worthy.

3 and 5 are the only ones I'd really consider