James Magner is one of the favourites and Jesse Hogan an outside chance for tonight's JJ Liston Trophy for VFL B & F.

In the meantime, congratulations to Casey Scorpions' Aiden Lindsay who has won the A.Todd Medal for the best Development League player with just 13 votes. His teammate Jordan Pollard was runner up 1 vote behind him.

Bit of a kick in the sprouts in Jimmy Magner wins and can't get a run in the worst midfield of all time.

If Magner gets delisted (and if they're not going to play him, why keep a spot on the list for him), I genuinely hope another club drafts him and he tears it up. I don't see how he's any less effective than Beamer as an inside, see-the-ball-get-the-ball-pound-the-thing-vaguely-forwards kind of player. Beamer is good enough at that to be one of the better players in a midfield nearly good enough for the eight, so I can't see why Magner isn't good enough at it for the worst midfield in the league.

If Magner gets delisted (and if they're not going to play him, why keep a spot on the list for him), I genuinely hope another club drafts him and he tears it up. I don't see how he's any less effective than Beamer as an inside, see-the-ball-get-the-ball-pound-the-thing-vaguely-forwards kind of player. Beamer is good enough at that to be one of the better players in a midfield nearly good enough for the eight, so I can't see why Magner isn't good enough at it for the worst midfield in the league.

Because Magner is slow as a wet week and his very poorly skilled

Former Demon Shane Valenti (now with Port Melbourne) now a VFL Life Member.

Congratulations to a tough little customer.

Because Magner is slow as a wet week and his very poorly skilled

And Beamer isn't?

Don't make me laugh, Beamer should still be one of ours except for mister Commandant Klink and his all or nothing Mantra!!

Ok Where was I ?? Oh Magner.. anyone that cannot kick 25 yards and is slower than me must be surplus to needs!

Now NEEEEEEXXXT??!

ahhhh yes, my housemate is at this event (as he plays in the VFL for Collingwood) and he played well enough this season to get an invite.
Good feed apparently!

After 11 rounds Mitch Hallahan of Box Hill Hawks leads. Magner not in sight.

Jesse Hogan into equal third place after 12 rounds (but he played 5 minutes in the last 3 rounds).

Best conducted club went to Essendon VFL.

Obviously, they kept Hird & co away from their VFL team.

Gold, KC, just gold.

Bit of a kick in the sprouts in Jimmy Magner wins and can't get a run in the worst midfield of all time.

Says something about the VFL standard relative to the AFL.

There have been a number of Liston trophy winners in the past 15 years that have not been good enough for AFL.

Best conducted club went to Essendon VFL.

Obviously, they kept Hird & co away from their VFL team.

Bendigo Gold stiff you'd have to say.

Says something about the VFL standard relative to the AFL.

There have been a number of Liston trophy winners in the past 15 years that have not been good enough for AFL.

Just like the morrish medal winner (Best TAC player) often doesn't end up very good in the AFL. Of course mitigating circumstances - the medal winner is often overlooked for rep teams but the point remains.

Casey skipper Evan Panozza is VFL Team of the Year full back.

Geelong's Matthew Knights named VFL Coach of the Year.

Counting restarts:

Hallahan 15, Clifton, Lambert 13, Schroder 12, Hogan 11, Iles, Martin, Sewell, Cain, Moore 9, Magner 8, Jolley 7

Three way tie on 17 votes are Mitch Hallahan (Box Hill Hawks), Steve Clifton (North Ballarat) and Jordan Schroder (Geelong).

Best for Casey were James Magner 11 votes, Jesse Hogan 10 and Max Gawn 8.

Hallahan (21) and Schroder (20) should be both on the Demons radar in the off season. Good young mids

If Magner gets delisted (and if they're not going to play him, why keep a spot on the list for him), I genuinely hope another club drafts him and he tears it up. I don't see how he's any less effective than Beamer as an inside, see-the-ball-get-the-ball-pound-the-thing-vaguely-forwards kind of player. Beamer is good enough at that to be one of the better players in a midfield nearly good enough for the eight, so I can't see why Magner isn't good enough at it for the worst midfield in the league.

Melbourne has a history of delisting the leading vote getter in the secondary competition, with one player famously saying at the Bluey Truscott while accepting his trophy

" I guess this means I'll be delisted next week" - and he was. If they are playing enough games in the seconds to get the most votes - they are not good enough for the seniors.

Says something about the VFL standard relative to the AFL.

There have been a number of Liston trophy winners in the past 15 years that have not been good enough for AFL.

Agree

Previous winners include Demons Joe Rugolo , Paul Johnson, Shane Valenti (twice) and Ezra Poyas

Melbourne has a history of delisting the leading vote getter in the secondary competition, with one player famously saying at the Bluey Truscott while accepting his trophy

" I guess this means I'll be delisted next week" - and he was. If they are playing enough games in the seconds to get the most votes - they are not good enough for the seniors.

That is bullsh*t, we are an absolute rabble and Magner should've been given a gig.

It says two things.. 1. Is that we have a bloke tearing it up who can't get a gig in a shocking midfield.

2. Why even have the bloke on our list if we never intended on playing him? Well done MFC.

Anyway, onwards and upwards, Neeld was about as competent as my under 13 coach and let's just erase 2013.

C'mon Roosy.

That is a ridiculous effort from a kid in Hogan to get 11 votes in half a season of actual game time. I rate Hallahan and hope we are having a look at him.

Best conducted club went to Essendon VFL.

Obviously, they kept Hird & co away from their VFL team.

What exactly is this award for? Best off-field behaviour? best administration? best governance (seriously)? And who decides?