Magner - 51 possessions on the weekend. I know it was against the bendigo gold but 51 pos is fantastic no matter the opposition. Most weeks he has above 30 possessions. Often has high numbers of hard ball gets, high number of tackles, clearances. From reports last season, he was first to arrive at the club every morning always doing that extra bit.

I have mentioned this before, but if we are after mongrel players, magner has that.

On paper, Magner and viney doing a lot of the grunt work, jones, trengove, toump, grimes and the like doing most of the outside run work with jordie tagging actually looks pretty reasonable.

Of course i dont think magnet will solve all our problems, but I think magner and viney should be trialled together for a number of weeks. not that theres long left.

Thoughts?

If he doesn't come in this week, considering his performance and the three injuries, I might have to leave a steaming turd on the doorstep of the MFC offices.

its abit strange surely jones could use another big body and matt jones is probably due for a rest

Would like to know too.

No doubt, we'll delist him at the end of the year only for him to be picked up by a club like the Swans whereupon he'll then become a regular in an elite on-ball brigade.

In fact, with his VFL stats each week, it seems ridiculous that he cannot get a start in the worst midfield in the comp.

In fact, with his VFL stats each week, it seems ridiculous that he cannot get a start in the worst midfield in the comp.

Yes RB it beggars belief that he cannot get a game.

Obviously has no photos of anyone!

Because the President "wants mongrel in our culture" and he....oh...wait...nothing.

He would be a massive help for nathan jones and jack viney. Just another big body to bust through packs and create a contest. But like others i am absolutely gobsmack how they continue to play blokes likes Byrnes Blease and even Jack Watts ahead of this bloke..

He would be a massive help for nathan jones and jack viney. Just another big body to bust through packs and create a contest. But like others i am absolutely gobsmack how they continue to play blokes likes Byrnes Blease and even Jack Watts ahead of this bloke..

It would make sense to me that Magner be given a try in the team. It's not as though he'd be taking the place of a more deserving mid-fielder. He should have been tried out weeks ago.

Neil Craig would have a large say in this, I would expect. If this is the case, and he's not prepared to reward someone with good VFL form, then I would expect that we probably need to appoint a different senior coach for next year.

And why upgrade the guy if you are not going to play him!

Would allow Sylvia to play more outside where he can be more damaging with his skills.

It is ridiculous that 1) it took us forever to upgrade him after Clarks injury and 2) once upgraded we refuse to play him. It beggars belief that he is less deserving than some of the guys rotating in and out of the side all year.

Turns it over with poor disposal.

If he was creative, made good decisions, and executed delivery he'd be playing. The fact that he struggles to get a game in arguably the worst midfield in history should probably tell you something.

Turns it over with poor disposal.

If he was creative, made good decisions, and executed delivery he'd be playing. The fact that he struggles to get a game in arguably the worst midfield in history should probably tell you something.

Surely the fact he has a big body, can find the ball and extract it from clearances puts him ahead of at least half a dozen players who played for us on the weekend.

Would allow Sylvia to play more outside where he can be more damaging with his skills.

Yeh Colin, could be anything, a few years development.

Look it is obvious Magner is just an inside mid who hunts the ball and can get it out, that's all. He might get first touch 30 times but so what. His kicking is not elite, nor is his speed, or goal kicking for that matter. Now we have any number of players who can....ummh, arr. Oh I better ring Neil he knows the reason. I'll get back with the answer.

Dunno, got me stuffed. Would have thought the more exposure at the higher level the better he may get.

To slow - from the horses mouth.

thr only thing i can think of is that craig feels it would take away from the development of other mids, which is just stupid.

To slow - from the horses mouth.

He isn't quick, but if he was good enough it would do.

Surely the fact he has a big body, can find the ball and extract it from clearances puts him ahead of at least half a dozen players who played for us on the weekend.

Replacing crap with crap wouldn't make any difference, other than supporters think the club is trying stuff.

Know what I mean ?

Given our illustrious position what exactly is wrong with trying things ( people) ??

Obviously lacks speed and also doesn't seem able to impact AFL with endurance either ie. doesn't rack up uncontested disposals at AFL level.

The first Freo game we got belted when Magner played. This time we went for Jones, Viney, McKenzie, Sylvia predominately with also Grimes and Trengove as the inside midfielders. Put Magner in and you take one of those guys out. Now I'd be happy for Grimes to go back to half back or for Sylvia to play half forward and rotate in to the midfield to give Magner 2 weeks just to see what he can do but I don't hold high hopes.

The big questions are:

1. Do you ever think Magner will be AFL standard?

2. Will playing Magner make an impact on the scoreboard ie. will he perform any better than Viney, McKenzie, Sylvia or Grimes do in the midfield

If your answer to both those questions is NO then you wouldn't play him if he had 100 possessions. Same for Rodan.

To slow - from the horses mouth.

which horse Buckpasser ?

Given our illustrious position what exactly is wrong with trying things ( people) ??

In some ways we are even less wise to try things when we need every opportunity to work on the basics ie. best players in the best positions kind of thing. I think that would be Craig's philosophy.