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We are so desperate for mids aren't we that we get all gobsmacked over this guy...shows just where we are at as a club

I think a lot of us are desperate to see anything done by our club, just to get the ball rolling. The only action we've seen so far is being turned down by a fairly green assistant coach.

I don't think most of us are overrating this guy. Realistically he doesn't have much value in trade for Freo, although the fact that he is contracted could allow them to hold out for better than he's worth. He's a third round pick who has played 1 game for them in a fairly stacked midfield. We should be able to get him for our fourth round pick, but might have to spend our third rounder instead. If Freo decide to be accommodating we might even get to spend a pick in the eighties on him, much like the deal for Morton last year with WC.

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I doubt that the WAFL would be as strong as the VFL. So playing 'great' football there, but failing to get a game with Freo, is much like Magner and other regular VFL standard players on our list. I'd take it with a grain of sand. I can't get excited about Michie. Hope I'm wrong!

I'm not sure how your comparing Michie to Magner when Michie is on the fringe of one of the better Midfields in the league and Magner can't get a regular game in one of the worse Midfields in the comp.

Admitedly Magner is on the rookie list but he is still yet to prove himself and Michie is the same but winning his clubs B n F as a 21 yr old says he knows how to play the game to me. I'll be excited to see Viv hopefully flourish under Roos but will not hold any high expectations on the kid immediately.

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Last line of a HUN article tonight says Michie is likely to end up with us even though there is a little interest from the Saints and another club, which I think was Carlton off the top of my head.

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I doubt that the WAFL would be as strong as the VFL. So playing 'great' football there, but failing to get a game with Freo, is much like Magner and other regular VFL standard players on our list. I'd take it with a grain of sand. I can't get excited about Michie. Hope I'm wrong!

You kidding mate, have you seen any games, I have seen both levels and little difference in both. I think WAFL defeated VFL in a close one this year

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I think a lot of us are desperate to see anything done by our club, just to get the ball rolling. The only action we've seen so far is being turned down by a fairly green assistant coach.

I don't think most of us are overrating this guy. Realistically he doesn't have much value in trade for Freo, although the fact that he is contracted could allow them to hold out for better than he's worth. He's a third round pick who has played 1 game for them in a fairly stacked midfield. We should be able to get him for our fourth round pick, but might have to spend our third rounder instead. If Freo decide to be accommodating we might even get to spend a pick in the eighties on him, much like the deal for Morton last year with WC.

Our fourth pick is close to there third round pick anyway

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I doubt that the WAFL would be as strong as the VFL. So playing 'great' football there, but failing to get a game with Freo, is much like Magner and other regular VFL standard players on our list. I'd take it with a grain of sand. I can't get excited about Michie. Hope I'm wrong!

If our midfield featured the quality of Fyfe, Hill, Mundy, Barlow, Crowley and so on and we were in the top 4 and had a coach who notoriously plays mature players over kids then you'd think the talent of guys not getting games in the reserve comp would be quite different to one of the worst teams in history.

Not to mention Michie is coming off his first decent AFL preseason and is only 21 so still has a tremendous amount of development potential. I'm not calling him the saviour or expecting 22 games and him to be our 3rd best mid behind Jones and Viney but I do expect that if fit he'd play plenty of games. He also has skills and the ability to play half forward and midfield. All in all he's the kind of player we should've been drafting and developing and exactly what we need to get in so that our half forwards and depth mid positions aren't wasting each week on guys going backwards with their football - ie. Tapscott, Bail, Blease.

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I doubt that the WAFL would be as strong as the VFL. So playing 'great' football there, but failing to get a game with Freo, is much like Magner and other regular VFL standard players on our list. I'd take it with a grain of sand. I can't get excited about Michie. Hope I'm wrong!

I'm sorry but if you're drawing parallels from Michie and Magner, you clearly have little idea of the situation.

I'll just bundle you in with the ignorant group who keep quoting; ' He's only played one AFL game in three seasons.'

For those ignorant folk who don't know much about his situation, here's a little blurb, which will hopefully give some context for all you negative nellies.

Firstly, Michie's first opportunity to play with full fitness and a body that could handle the demands of playing football was this year, a year in which we saw Freo make a grand final. His first two seasons were injury plagued and so were spent trying to get his body right. Much like Grimes for us.

Effectively, this year and the 2013 pre-season was the first he had. He made one appearance against Geelong this year and I watched it. While he didn't dominate, one could see that he has some wonderful attributes and skills. Between an injury hiccup early on and then a knee injury toward the tail end of the season, Michie managed to play 16 games for Peel Thunder in the WAFL and he took out their Best and Fairest for the year. Forgive the guy for not being able to break into a grand finalists midfield for the year. If he'd pushed one of Hill, Mundy, Barlow or Fyfe out we'd be talking about the next young Judd. But we're not. Nobody is.

It's obvious to many, (but maybe not to you naysayers), that clubs with strong lines and lists and a strong footy department will have a strong development program for their kids. Especially kids that have to date, really struggled to get on the park. ie - Viv Michie

There are many players within the AFL and especially from strong clubs, that haven't been blooded early on and have had to spend considerable time in their VFL affiliate sides preparing themselves for a smooth transition into the AFL sot hey can become comfortable in their own ability, so that they can learn team ethos and structures, so that they can develop their body. There are many reasons. Unfortunately this is a luxury the MFC haven't been afforded due to the weak list it has had and the mismanagement of the club as a whole. Bailey's era of 'giving games to the kids' may have put some questioning into the minds of posters who are wondering why oh why Viv has managed one game. It's not common practice to gift kids games, I can assure you.

Nobody that I've come across is categorising Michie as being a future star or anything of the sort. However, what some of us can see, is that there are players out there on many AFL lists who are not getting games either because of injury or because they can't quite break into a side because they're young and still developing their game and the team are very strong across that particular line. Or! A mixture of both. This fits for Viv. Michie isn't like Greenwood where he is not getting games due to his lack of ability. Freo rate him alright.

I remember a young Steven Motlop playing inconsistent football for the Geelong two's a few years back.

I remember Josh Kennedy not being able to crack a game for the Hawks because of their star-studded midfield.

There are plenty of things to be excited about if we land this player. Especially now that we have Roos.

Go dees

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Agree, very happy to bring

I'm sorry but if you're drawing parallels from Michie and Magner, you clearly have little idea of the situation.

I'll just bundle you in with the ignorant group who keep quoting; ' He's only played one AFL game in three seasons.'

For those ignorant folk who don't know much about his situation, here's a little blurb, which will hopefully give some context for all you negative nellies.

Firstly, Michie's first opportunity to play with full fitness and a body that could handle the demands of playing football was this year, a year in which we saw Freo make a grand final. His first two seasons were injury plagued and so were spent trying to get his body right. Much like Grimes for us.

Effectively, this year and the 2013 pre-season was the first he had. He made one appearance against Geelong this year and I watched it. While he didn't dominate, one could see that he has some wonderful attributes and skills. Between an injury hiccup early on and then a knee injury toward the tail end of the season, Michie managed to play 16 games for Peel Thunder in the WAFL and he took out their Best and Fairest for the year. Forgive the guy for not being able to break into a grand finalists midfield for the year. If he'd pushed one of Hill, Mundy, Barlow or Fyfe out we'd be talking about the next young Judd. But we're not. Nobody is.

It's obvious to many, (but maybe not to you naysayers), that clubs with strong lines and lists and a strong footy department will have a strong development program for their kids. Especially kids that have to date, really struggled to get on the park. ie - Viv Michie

There are many players within the AFL and especially from strong clubs, that haven't been blooded early on and have had to spend considerable time in their VFL affiliate sides preparing themselves for a smooth transition into the AFL sot hey can become comfortable in their own ability, so that they can learn team ethos and structures, so that they can develop their body. There are many reasons. Unfortunately this is a luxury the MFC haven't been afforded due to the weak list it has had and the mismanagement of the club as a whole. Bailey's era of 'giving games to the kids' may have put some questioning into the minds of posters who are wondering why oh why Viv has managed one game. It's not common practice to gift kids games, I can assure you.

Nobody that I've come across is categorising Michie as being a future star or anything of the sort. However, what some of us can see, is that there are players out there on many AFL lists who are not getting games either because of injury or because they can't quite break into a side because they're young and still developing their game and the team are very strong across that particular line. Or! A mixture of both. This fits for Viv. Michie isn't like Greenwood where he is not getting games due to his lack of ability. Freo rate him alright.

I remember a young Steven Motlop playing inconsistent football for the Geelong two's a few years back.

I remember Josh Kennedy not being able to crack a game for the Hawks because of their star-studded midfield.

There are plenty of things to be excited about if we land this player. Especially now that we have Roos.

Go dees

Agree, very happy to bring in Michie and have him fight for a spot with Cross, McKenzie, Toumpas and keep Bail, Nicho! Blease out of the team.


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Look at how Barlow fared in his first 3 seasons outside of U/18 football...

Didn't even play 1 AFL game and wasn't even injured!

What a hack...

/scathing sarcasm

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Talk of Viv to the Deed have gone quite..

To be fair it's not a "big" trade - unless there is some legit news the journos won't give it any air time. Be patient.


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woohoo :))

Welcome to the Melbourne Footy Club Viv Michie

well done FD !!

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