Sylvia used to be my pet frustration. He can go if he likes.. I really dont care anymore. In fact id rather he did and freed up a spot and cash.

Now Watts is my #1 Frustration. Heres a kid who does have ability. We see it from time to time. But just as often we see effort and brain fades. Could he /would he perform to around 80% for most of a game hed be a star.. But WILL he ??

Maybe Roos senses the latent potential...wtfk !!!

Hes not playing like he really wants to be at the club. Why cant they all adopt the Jones ethic ??

Id rather 90% of someone with 75% the abilty across a season than that which WATTS curently offers.

Im really disappointed in this kid.

Ben-Hur was right when he said if JW was going to show something he would have shown it by now. A la Wingard, Darling, Naitanui, Cameron

Along with Sylvia is exactly the kind of 'maybe-someday-one day' player we need to show the door. These guys do not deserve hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.

at least three occasions yesterday he was clearly nor working when he should have been. That is just straight out infuriating

Defensively plays like he's jogging the tan.

Why has it taken so many people on this site to realise that Jackie boy is not and wont be the real deal open your eyes!

Would we miss him and could always do with the cash to recruit someone else.

Miss Watt?

Was Mick mentoring or grooming him last year?

Groooooming Ohh yeah!!Stroke it baby!

Watts was good in the first half and average in the second half.

Not Robinson Crusoe either.

Still in our best today easily.

Hey Biff are you his Bro?How can you defend this weak P....K

I urge everybody to go back and watch Watts effort when Garland got caught in the first(or could be second) and they kicked a turnover goal.

His handball to Garland was so pathetic that he had to stop his run to gather.

Then Watts man ran from behind Watts, around him as he slow jogged towards Garland for support and tackled Garland as he kicked forcing a turnover goal.

Watts only effort to stop his man was to stick out an arm and softly nudge his opponent then to continue to slow jog as Garland was dragged down.

Was fuming at Garland until I saw the replay from another angle and then was just disgusted at Watts.

I don't care about his skill that is weak football.

We need to re-sign Watts. It's a fact. Fortunately PJ gets this.

In short, we need more quality players on our list, not less.

Pedersen on a 3 year deal is astonishing.

Not fighting tooth and nail to keep Rivers is astonishing.

Recruiting Gillies is astonishing.

Please give new contracts to Watts, Sylvia and Frawley asap.

And then move the spuds on - not the quality players.

Surely this is obvious.

A real enigma. Has far better than average dexterity, peripheral vision and cognitive thinking on the field but lacks intensity and desire to impose. Could wisely use the time waiting for a new coach to learn how to defend like a footballer, not like a basketballer. I reckon when Jack is out on the ground, he believes his position is point guard, not centre half forward.

Would we miss him and could always do with the cash to recruit someone else.

Wouldn't miss him one little bit.

Geelong lost the greatest player of the last 20 years and won the flag the next sason

Watts is easily expendable

We're not Geelong.

We're not Geelong.

And Watts is not quality.

Might be serviceable one day but not for us.

Christ, we are hard on our players! Jack needs time to develop, please allow him this. We all KNOW that he has been fed to the wolves up to this point in his career. Once we have our new coach in place, I will be giving Jack time (if he doesn't leave us) and make a call then. He is still so young and needs to be taught. Yes, he's been in the system a while now, but has he had the right Teacher? Imagine what a Chocko or a Roos would do for him. If he's still at the same place in 2 years time (when he's still only 24), then make the call!

So all get your head around the fact that jack might want to stay and if he does he's an MFC player and I hope you all support him. FFSAKE he's trying like the most of our boys, I'm sick of hearing all the bagging, it's beyond boring!!

Frawley would be off his head if he signed anything with us right now unless we offered him a stupid amount of money, Sylvia i'd prefer to keep because we can't afford to lose a strong bodied midfielder and Watts, well maybe it would be best for him to move on? who knows?

what if Watts got us Carlton's first round pick #9 and we got Dom Sheed and James Aish because of that?

exactly

Geelong would never draft a soft [censored] with pick 1

Most recruiters in the competition had him at number 1.

And that's according to Gubby Allan, not Barry Prendergast.

And weren't Geelong and the Swans going to pick Gysberts had we not done so?!

It's clear that players recruited in the Bailey years did not develop properly/as they should have.

Most recruiters in the competition had him at number 1.

And that's according to Gubby Allan, not Barry Prendergast.

I heard the same, Nic Nat was a highlight reel but Watts was supposed to be Nick Rewoldt mark 2.

I heard the same, Nic Nat was a highlight reel but Watts was supposed to be Nick Rewoldt mark 2.

That's right.

Lets face it, the football community as a whole had Watts or Nic Nat as #1 and the other as #2. If we drafted Nic nat, we would be saying he is a one trick pony and hopeless (and he would not have got an undeserving All Australian nod if he were at MFC). Whatever way we went we were stuffed.

Scully was universally the #1 choice in his year (and some games for us showed why).

These top tier picks were done as most other clubs would have done it. So you have to conclude we are good at ruining careers.....and not gettting the best out of our players.

I hope we keep Watts. We wont get enough for him to make it worthwhile trading him

Riht now we need a Watts playing with confidence to impose himself on games. I would be reluctant to trade him for a talented 18 y/old.

Id target hardened midfielders with 1-2 seasons left to support our developing midfield. A Sewell or Black.

Don't ignore the gargantuan effort West Coast have made in developing Naitanui.

I've no doubt whatsoever that we wouldn't have invested even half the resources they have in developing him.

We'd be lucky if he'd reached the level of Majak Daw by now - a handful of highlights, but not a lot of substance.

Christ, we are hard on our players! Jack needs time to develop, please allow him this. We all KNOW that he has been fed to the wolves up to this point in his career. Once we have our new coach in place, I will be giving Jack time (if he doesn't leave us) and make a call then. He is still so young and needs to be taught. Yes, he's been in the system a while now, but has he had the right Teacher? Imagine what a Chocko or a Roos would do for him. If he's still at the same place in 2 years time (when he's still only 24), then make the call!

jack needs time for what?

he already has the skill set

will he wake up one day and magically decide he has a liking for the contest?

accept it....he is just too soft for afl football

we can't just keep saying another year, a few more games, a new mentor. its not in his dna

if he still has currency get what we can for a trade

yeah i know its sad, but i don't want to do nothing and be condemned for another long period on the bottom with players going nowhere

Christ, we are hard on our players! Jack needs time to develop, please allow him this. We all KNOW that he has been fed to the wolves up to this point in his career. Once we have our new coach in place, I will be giving Jack time (if he doesn't leave us) and make a call then. He is still so young and needs to be taught. Yes, he's been in the system a while now, but has he had the right Teacher? Imagine what a Chocko or a Roos would do for him. If he's still at the same place in 2 years time (when he's still only 24), then make the call!

Jack Watts can walk out the door if he wants unfortunately, i know for a fact we're trying very hard to hang on to him, but ultimately it's his decision, if he walks fair enough, we need to work out the best trade outcome for us, which imo is carltons first round pick.