The Trade/Draft Rumour Mill

[old55 23,389]

Mahoney- "highly likely we will give up pick 2"

But he won't name a list of players it could be on, very hush hush.

wow, interesting, thanks for the updates, I couldn't get on.

[Steve13 457]

with it now 'highly likely' that pick 2 will be traded, I would surmise that the club have already identified and acted on the player/s they would like at the club next year.

I thought earlier this week that the rumours or lack there of, suggested to me that the 'big fish' had already been landed or close to landed.

Wouldn't be surprised if we have already done a hand shake deal with club x for player y.

Hopefully x = Adelaide and y = Rory Slone

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

The feeling I got out of that interview is that we are already in fair advanced with a club or player and close to getting a deal done with pick 2. Will be interesting to see who though. I mean you wouldn't just say its highly likely we will trade pick 2 when you already haven't got someone in mind.

Anyone else get that feeling?

yeah man.

[CBDees 3,167]

The feeling I got out of that interview is that we are already in fair advanced with a club or player and close to getting a deal done with pick 2. Will be interesting to see who though. I mean you wouldn't just say its highly likely we will trade pick 2 when you already haven't got someone in mind.

Anyone else get that feeling?

I also got the feel from the interview that they have an established player lined up for pick two. That was the view of the radio hosts also as they are speaking right now. Wallace suspects it is someone aged 23 or under who is currently interstate.

[DeeSpencer 25,453]

Roos is going to trade pick 2 for some B grader and win a total of 10 games over his 2 years. Walk away and leave is with a middle of the road list and without a great prospect that we could've got with pick 2. That's my worry.

Viney and Jason Taylor better exert their will on these decisions and Mahoney better stick to administrating and leave the decisions to the big boys.

[What 18,810]

Roos is going to trade pick 2 for some B grader and win a total of 10 games over his 2 years. Walk away and leave is with a middle of the road list and without a great prospect that we could've got with pick 2. That's my worry.

Viney and Jason Taylor better exert their will on these decisions and Mahoney better stick to administrating and leave the decisions to the big boys.

lol

[dazzledavey36 54,270]

Roos is going to trade pick 2 for some B grader and win a total of 10 games over his 2 years. Walk away and leave is with a middle of the road list and without a great prospect that we could've got with pick 2. That's my worry.

Viney and Jason Taylor better exert their will on these decisions and Mahoney better stick to administrating and leave the decisions to the big boys.

I heard Roos is a fair chance of staying on as coaching director after he finishes his coaching? If so id doubt he would screw us over like that.

[Demoneyes 562]

Would like T Adams and D Shiel and pick 10 - for picks 2, 20, & Jamar

[Ouch! 2,258]

Pick 2 is HIGHLY likely to go!

Huge news and very surprising. Roos is backing in our young talent, and clearly doesn't rate Aish too highly.

Watch this space.

Don't think that our decision to trade pick 2 is any reflection on Aish or whoever is available in the draft. It's more that we need established midfield talent and we have identified a player (or two) that suit our needs.

[Ouch! 2,258]

Would like T Adams and D Shiel and pick 10 - for picks 2, 20, & Jamar

yeah I know this is a rumours thread, but seriously when is the last time two clubs traded that much between them in a single trade.

Besides Adams doesn't want a bar of us (basically confirmed by Mahoney), why do people keep bringing him up?

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

Mahoney- "if a player has been in the system for 20-30 games and his 24-25 yeas of age that would be pick 2 worthy. We would want to use pick 2 on a player that would be with us for 8 years."

Ok, so from footywire, below are the players that match those critera:

name games age

Keeffe, Lachlan 22 23yr 5mth

Gumbleton, Scott 35 25yr 1mth

Colyer, Travis 34 22yr 1mth

Baguley, Mark 28 26yr 4mth

Kommer, Nicholas 19 23yr

Spangher, Matthew 36 26yr 5mth

Cheney, Kyle 32 24yr 1mth

Armstrong, Tony 29 24yr

Rampe, Dane ® 23 23yr 3mth

McKernan, Shaun 32 23yr 1mth

Lynch, Tom 29 23yr

Jenkins, Josh 28 24yr 7mth

Austin, Mark ® 33 24yr 7mth

Veszpremi, Patrick 23 24yr 1mth

Cordy, Ayce 19 23yr 1mth

Delaney, Luke 26 24yr 3mth

Stewart, Daniel 36 24yr 11mth

Saad, Ahmed 29 23yr 11mth

Dennis-Lane, Trent 28 25yr 1mth

Simpkin, Tom 26 23yr 1mth

Milera, Terry 25 25yr 8mth

Dick, Brad 27 25yr 2mth

Brennan, Jacob 26 23yr 8mth

Zorko, Dayne 38 24yr 7mth

McKeever, Nial 22 24yr 7mth

Laidler, Jeremy 26 24yr 1mth

White, Simon 26 25yr 3mth

Reid, Sam 24 23yr 10mth

If that's the list we're picking from, my money's on Zorko.

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Edited October 2, 2013 by Choke

[DeeSpencer 25,453]

Great to hear

Maybe we can have a prediction thread to see who is closest to the pin

My prediction -

Melbourne trade pick 2 and 20 to West Coast for Andrew Gaff and pick 6

That would be a huge win for us. Keep a high first round pick and give a second rounder for Gaff. Can't see West Coast going for that.

I certainly think it will have to be a trade back into the first round for us like your one above. There just isn't any out of contract top liners out there.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Ok, so from footywire, below are the players that match those critera:

Keeffe, Lachlan 22 23yr 5mth Gumbleton, Scott 35 25yr 1mth Colyer, Travis 34 22yr 1mth Baguley, Mark 28 26yr 4mth Kommer, Nicholas 19 23yr Spangher, Matthew 36 26yr 5mth Cheney, Kyle 32 24yr 1mth Armstrong, Tony 29 24yr Rampe, Dane ® 23 23yr 3mth McKernan, Shaun 32 23yr 1mth Lynch, Tom 29 23yr Jenkins, Josh 28 24yr 7mth Austin, Mark ® 33 24yr 7mth Veszpremi, Patrick 23 24yr 1mth Cordy, Ayce 19 23yr 1mth Delaney, Luke 26 24yr 3mth Stewart, Daniel 36 24yr 11mth Saad, Ahmed 29 23yr 11mth Dennis-Lane, Trent 28 25yr 1mth Simpkin, Tom 26 23yr 1mth Milera, Terry 25 25yr 8mth [censored], Brad 27 25yr 2mth Brennan, Jacob 26 23yr 8mth Zorko, Dayne 38 24yr 7mth McKeever, Nial 22 24yr 7mth Laidler, Jeremy 26 24yr 1mth White, Simon 26 25yr 3mth Reid, Sam 24 23yr 10mth

If that's the list we're picking from, my money's on Zorko.

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I'd look 24 to below in age as well. Number of games played is the key i feel. That 20-30 mark.

[DeeSpencer 25,453]

Mahoney- "if a player has been in the system for 20-30 games and his 24-25 yeas of age that would be pick 2 worthy.

That must be a misquote. If we want a 24-25 year old mid we want one with 60-100 games ready to go not one that barely played.

[Ouch! 2,258]

Ok, so from footywire, below are the players that match those critera:

Keeffe, Lachlan 22 23yr 5mth Gumbleton, Scott 35 25yr 1mth Colyer, Travis 34 22yr 1mth Baguley, Mark 28 26yr 4mth Kommer, Nicholas 19 23yr Spangher, Matthew 36 26yr 5mth Cheney, Kyle 32 24yr 1mth Armstrong, Tony 29 24yr Rampe, Dane ® 23 23yr 3mth McKernan, Shaun 32 23yr 1mth Lynch, Tom 29 23yr Jenkins, Josh 28 24yr 7mth Austin, Mark ® 33 24yr 7mth Veszpremi, Patrick 23 24yr 1mth Cordy, Ayce 19 23yr 1mth Delaney, Luke 26 24yr 3mth Stewart, Daniel 36 24yr 11mth Saad, Ahmed 29 23yr 11mth Dennis-Lane, Trent 28 25yr 1mth Simpkin, Tom 26 23yr 1mth Milera, Terry 25 25yr 8mth [censored], Brad 27 25yr 2mth Brennan, Jacob 26 23yr 8mth Zorko, Dayne 38 24yr 7mth McKeever, Nial 22 24yr 7mth Laidler, Jeremy 26 24yr 1mth White, Simon 26 25yr 3mth Reid, Sam 24 23yr 10mth

If that's the list we're picking from, my money's on Zorko.

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Cheers for the list, the stats of 20-30 games as a 24-25 yr old doesn't quite stand out as worthy of pick2 in my eyes... I would have thought 20-30 games and 21-22 yrs of age might be more interesting. Looking at those players, I don't see any players worthy of pick 2 unless we get some good change as well...

(Note I do rate Zorko and Rampe as players... but I don't think they are worthy of pick 2)

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Mahoney- "if a player has been in the system for 20-30 games and his 24-25 yeas of age that would be pick 2 worthy.

That must be a misquote. If we want a 24-25 year old mid we want one with 60-100 games ready to go not one that barely played.

i para-phrased as best and fast as i could, so i dare say it very well could be. The 20-30 game mark is the key in this.

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

Lol I like how we can't write Brad [censored]. It's his name!

[Wolfmother 182]

What about Tom rockliff as his name is being throw around would he suit the profile

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

What about Tom rockliff as his name is being throw around would he suit the profile

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pp-brisbane-lions--tom-rockliff

83 games, 23 years 7 months.

So a match on age, not on games.

[nutbean 8,838]

Pick 2 is HIGHLY likely to go!

Huge news and very surprising. Roos is backing in our young talent, and clearly doesn't rate Aish too highly.

Watch this space.

Assumptions have a way of biting you in the butt but I heard Mahoney and the first thing then went through my head is that the MFC are already way down the track on a player they want and a player the other club will trade for pick 2. (or a deal including pick 2)

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pp-brisbane-lions--tom-rockliff

83 games, 23 years 7 months.

So a match on age, not on games.

again i could have para-phrased wrong.

[Return to Glory 8,411]

Choke, where does Bernie Vince sit age wise? There's always been a question of application but I wouldn't be overly surprised if he was in our sights, particularly if it was a two player deal.

[Steve13 457]

pretty sure he said someone with 20 to 30 games experience (19-20 years old) - up to someone who is 23 - 24 years old (meaning 80-100 games experience)

[DeeSpencer 25,453]

Born 1989 or later and Victorian midfielder at interstate team:

Adelaide: Sloane, Sam Kerridge, David McKay, No first round picks to trade back to us!

Brisbane: Rockliff, Claye Beams (Brissy boy but brother in Vic), Ryan Lester, Patrick Karnezis

Freo: Suban, Sheridan, Mitchie

GC: Prestia, Swallow (WA boy but brother in Vic)

GWS: Taylor Adams, plenty others but no others have expressed any interest

Port: Andrew Moore, Jasper Pittard, Aaron Young

Syd: Hannebery, Lamb, Rohan, Parker

WC: Gaff, Selwood, Shuey, Ash Smith (def)

Sloane, Scott Selwood, Gaff, Hannebery, D. Swallow are the class of the lot. Would be happy with them for pick 2 with something additional for most of those thrown in. A lot of the others on the list are quality players but we'd need something significant to come with them ie first round pick coming the other way.

[Thehardtackler 785]

Maybe Rockliff is a smokescreen. Could Jack Redden be a player that we have approached?