Never seen this Lloyd Perris kid before, but I do recall hearing in the last few months how highly he is rated at the Sydney academy.

The Swans will spew if Roos poaches him, but honestly, I think they'll find a way to match whatever he offers.

The kid is from St George after all.

  On 20/09/2013 at 09:27, Grimes is Great said:

Jamie Bennell has been upgraded to West Coasts senior list.

Interesting. Of all the players we let go last year, Bennell's probably been the one I've been most nervous about.

He has class. And pace.

He could've been the type of half back flanker that Roos likes.

old dee will have a fit.

  On 21/09/2013 at 00:22, Dynamic Demon said:

It amazes me that so many are willing to judge the guy without knowing all the facts. It's so easy hiding behind the names you create for this site. Remember, the AFL / VFL is littered with players that have made bad choices in life. Cousins, Gardner, Fisher, Swan, Hall even the great Gary Ablett. Years ago it was Banks and Millane. Martin has made bad decisions for reasons none of us know, but he is an outstanding footballer with a lot more to give. What has happened to him recently maybe just the wake up call he needs.

It amazes me that even though there are clubs like Melbourne, GWS and the Saints, who all need a player of his caliber but reject him coming to their club, that there are still some on here that don't get it.

The associated baggage, poor influences, and potential disruption to the building of a ruthless "team first" attitude are not worth compromising.

It's about long-term culture and discipline, not quick fix answers.

  On 21/09/2013 at 00:30, Ron Burgundy said:

Interesting. Of all the players we let go last year, Bennell's probably been the one I've been most nervous about.

He has class. And pace.

He could've been the type of half back flanker that Roos likes.

yes, but both a change of scenery & culture was needed for a kid like him to adjust & change.

I was in the rookie bandwagon re him, but that wouldn't have given enough of the changes required, imo.

I liked the line in Caro's article today when GWS asked about who he goes to for advice and mentoring, and Dusty began to reel off a list of key Richmond figures...

The kid has raw talent, but needs a lot of help.

He doesn't realise how good he has had it at Richmond, and I think other clubs have begun to realise how much maintenance he will require.

Saw this on SEN.

Melbourne
UPDATED Sep 20:

New Melbourne coach Paul Roos was reportedly spotted having coffee with former Collingwood, Sydney and Melbourne ruckman Darren Jolly last week. Roos could be looking to bring his former charge back to the Demons to add experience to the Dees.

He flagged his intention to put the Demons number two pick and potential priority draft pick on the trading table in the hope of securing a ready-made midfielder.

Inside Football’s Ben Casanelia reported in mid-August that the Dees have reportedly shopped the number two pick for Adelaide midfielder Rory Sloane and Gold Coast young gun David Swallow - http://sen.lu/1d1WNXd

Likelihood Meter

Jolly – 60%
Swallow – 50%

There is a lot to be said for the Roos method of building your list. By sacrificing high picks every now and then, you can get a proven AFL player and you know what you are getting. That way you can build up a strong list and always add youth later in the draft. You miss the so called best young talent, but if it is left to purely drafting, we would have 20 Lucas Cooks.

  On 21/09/2013 at 07:26, TheoX said:

Was he pick 12 or 11?

  On 21/09/2013 at 07:55, dazzledavey36 said:

Was he pick 12 or 11?

12, and a round or 2 before predicted. Thanks again Barry.

  On 21/09/2013 at 07:26, TheoX said:

Please, TX, don't bring this up.....I feel sick.

How about we cut Lucas some slack? He didn't ask for our extremely inept recruiting department to select him with pick 12.

  On 21/09/2013 at 08:48, jumbo returns said:

Please, TX, don't bring this up.....I feel sick.

Sorry, I felt sick too when his name was called out on the radio, draft day 2010.

  On 21/09/2013 at 09:04, Django said:

How about we cut Lucas some slack? He didn't ask for our extremely inept recruiting department to select him with pick 12.

Yep, its about time to give the kid a rest.

  On 21/09/2013 at 09:04, Django said:

How about we cut Lucas some slack? He didn't ask for our extremely inept recruiting department to select him with pick 12.

He's a lovely guy, but a low grade footballer.

I'm sick about his selection.

  On 21/09/2013 at 09:04, Django said:

How about we cut Lucas some slack? He didn't ask for our extremely inept recruiting department to select him with pick 12.

No one is knocking Lucas, that is reserved solely for the bloke that selected him at 12.

  On 21/09/2013 at 08:00, TheoX said:

12, and a round or 2 before predicted. Thanks again Barry.

Not true.

Most mock drafts had him going about 10 picks later.

Geez I remember being worried when I heard he was interested in fashion design, but at the time consoled myself that Travis Cloke was the same at the same age, and he turned into a contested marking machine.

Been reliably informed all of Chapman, Hunt & Corey will be searching for new homes if they don't retire.

Potentially Podsiadly as well.

Edit: no surprises there, obviously.

I just keep hearing from certain people that we are going to offer the kitchen sink for Rory Sloane and that he wants to come home. Wait and see but remember this post. Roos will want a coupe.

Roos might like a coup, too, although that probably won't get you around town.

  On 21/09/2013 at 14:45, Norm Smith said:

I just keep hearing from certain people that we are going to offer the kitchen sink for Rory Sloane and that he wants to come home. Wait and see but remember this post. Roos will want a coupe.

That's would be great.

Would also piz my neighbour off who is a made crows fan and an absolute [censored].

If there was an award for being one he would win [censored] of the year by a country mile.

  On 21/09/2013 at 14:35, Machiavelli said:

Been reliably informed all of Chapman, Hunt & Corey will be searching for new homes if they don't retire.

Potentially Podsiadly as well.

Edit: no surprises there, obviously.

  On 21/09/2013 at 14:45, Norm Smith said:

I just keep hearing from certain people that we are going to offer the kitchen sink for Rory Sloane and that he wants to come home. Wait and see but remember this post. Roos will want a coupe.

Would be more then happy to see Chapman & Sloane joining Cross at the Dees next year!

  On 21/09/2013 at 15:08, Machiavelli said:

Roos might like a coup, too, although that probably won't get you around town.

I was going to say "classic" or "4-door".

Alas...

_{If we trade pick 2, I hope we can get back a mid first round pick in the deal. That would be invaluable in another trade. Sloane is not worth 2 and the Crows would love Aish. Crows don't have early picks to trade back as part of a deal.}

_{If you could convince Adams, Tyson and Miles to come and offered 2 and Jamar, you might be able to get pick 10 back. Clearly 2 is too much for Adams and Miles but would be about right for Adams and Tyson. Maybe another player or later pick from us could be about right.}

_{Oh well, in another month we will know if any of these guesses have come true.}