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@melbournefc: Neeld: We thought that under 5 goals on the road was a positive.


No, not it is not, a 5 goal loss to a top of the table interstate team, maybe.

A 5 goal loss to a team as bad as us who kicked poorly at goal and had over 100 possessions more is pathetic.

PATHETIC!!!

PATHETIC!!!

Not worth a new thread. Or any thread for that matter.

God help us.

If this is the sort of defeatist rubbish our coach is going to try spoon feed us week after week, he may as well resign now as it sounds like he has given up!

I'm not against Neeld but that is accepting mediocrity and it is just not good enough if we want to be a good football team.

Just read that, unless its out of context he should be sacked immediately

I thought you guys wanted him to be nicer?

Brisbane aren't that flash, we had an opportunity to win this game, 5 goal loss is not something you should accept in a winnable game, i don't care if it's played on the moon.

Couple of late goals to us made the score respectable, the defeat was way worse than the scoreboard suggests.

we lost by 25 goals 3 weeks ago.

If Sylvia had kicked a goal at 3:40 in Q4 there would have been 13 points in it.

We scored 3 goals less than the opposition without our only 2 key forwards.

Unless you have a brain tumour that is an obvious improvement.

Just read that, unless its out of context he should be sacked immediately

Over a tweet?

They probably sang the song.

Fits with the development mantra. i thought we were in development mode in early 1966 with the infusion of syd catlin, jungwirth, leahy and rattray.

Ed: Oops, I forgot Frank Vearing, debuted as a two year old, late 1965. Now that's development:

http://demonwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Frank%20Vearing

Edited April 28, 201312 yr by bush demon

we lost by 25 goals 3 weeks ago.

If Sylvia had kicked a goal at 3:40 in Q4 there would have been 13 points in it.

We scored 3 goals less than the opposition without our only 2 key forwards.

Unless you have a brain tumour that is an obvious improvement.

Against a far better team. The aim needs to be to win and anything less is a failure. That's why they play, to win.

Over a tweet?

If that's what he said, yes

This is misguided frustration. If only the players didn't pull their finger out for 20 minutes last week we'd be listening to Neil Craig talk to the press.

Just hang in there until after the Suns match.

Against a far better team. The aim needs to be to win and anything less is a failure. That's why they play, to win.

now that is the type of mentally questionable attitude I am talking about. If anything less than a win is a failure, then you must be expecting to us to win every game for the rest of the year or else we will have failed by your assessment. You can see how that logic is not abundantly intelligent can't you? What if we lose interstate to the top side by a point with our 4 best players off injured.. your logic dictates that is a failure. This is not how it works, is it?

we lost by 25 goals 3 weeks ago.

If Sylvia had kicked a goal at 3:40 in Q4 there would have been 13 points in it.

We scored 3 goals less than the opposition without our only 2 key forwards.

Unless you have a brain tumour that is an obvious improvement.

Did you see the second quarter Mr Curry and Beer? 2 goals, 8 behinds our opposition kicked in that 20 minutes.

I'm not a great fan of Mark Neeld, but I know we don't need a new coach now. He perhaps expressed it badly, but during the week, when I was asked how Melb would go, I said we'd get done by 4-5 goals. And I think most of us would have said the same thing.

There were positives. I thought Jamar was much more confident, had a kick or two, and Watts is coming good as well. The third quarter was bad, but we managed to contain it. We were 5 goals closer to Brisbane than last time round.

The commentators raised questions about our work-rate, and its not the first time I've heard that. Perhaps fitness is an issue here.

I'm not sure about the zone defence. I know how it works in basketball, because each player only has about 40 square metres to guard. But a footy field is 40 times bigger than a basketball court, and I can see how the opposition seem to find ways through quite easily. Perhaps this is part of the development process, or perhaps the best we can manage at this stage. I'll be glad when we move on from it though.

now that is the type of mentally questionable attitude I am talking about. If anything less than a win is a failure, then you must be expecting to us to win every game for the rest of the year or else we will have failed by your assessment. You can see how that logic is not abundantly intelligent can't you? What if we lose interstate to the top side by a point with our 4 best players off injured.. your logic dictates that is a failure. This is not how it works, is it?

Yes I regard that as a failure. Shoot me, I like to win.

That hypothetical loss may be a better effort than we are used to but it's still a failure.

In regards to expecting to win every game for the rest of the year, obviously I don't but it is still not acceptable. I'd say top sides like Sydney and Hawthorn regard a loss as a failure and don't accept anything less than a win. If we can have the same attitude we will be on the way to being a really good side like those teams. It is a mental game and we have to instill a winning, uncompromising attitude if we are ever going to be successful.

we lost by 25 goals 3 weeks ago.

If Sylvia had kicked a goal at 3:40 in Q4 there would have been 13 points in it.

We scored 3 goals less than the opposition without our only 2 key forwards.

Unless you have a brain tumour that is an obvious improvement.

I'll stand fuqed, We lost in cataclysmic style by 25 goals to a TOP, currently unrelated side

so a 5 goal loss to a depleted side that's has only won against an expansion side is acceptable?

Well then.

This is misguided frustration. If only the players didn't pull their finger out for 20 minutes last week we'd be listening to Neil Craig talk to the press.

Just hang in there until after the Suns match.

Traitor.

Against a far better team. The aim needs to be to win and anything less is a failure. That's why they play, to win.

Yes, if you lose you lose. But it doesn't mean that within that, there can't be positives.

Just as there can be negatives in a win.

now that is the type of mentally questionable attitude I am talking about. If anything less than a win is a failure, then you must be expecting to us to win every game for the rest of the year or else we will have failed by your assessment. You can see how that logic is not abundantly intelligent can't you? What if we lose interstate to the top side by a point with our 4 best players off injured.. your logic dictates that is a failure. This is not how it works, is it?

Wow.

I actually believe you must be having a lend, that or your mildly retardly.

Yes, if you lose you lose. But it doesn't mean that within that, there can't be positives.

Just as there can be negatives in a win.

Absolutely there can be positives, I'm not saying there can't be. But overall, I think a loss as unacceptable and accepting a loss breeds bad attitudes and is detrimental to trying to build a strong, winning culture.

Traitor.

No, you're right. It's going we'll and we just need to hang in there until we come up against another bad side and get done by 5 goals (when it should have been 8). How dare I expect more.

That was one of the worst Brisbane sides they've fielded in years and Brown was well below his best. What treacherous is the crap we are expected to swallow. The club is selling nothing, will be 500k in debt by the end of the year and keeping the coach shows we will just accept that.