I have been told that Jamar has been told that once Gawn is ready he is out of the team. That would explain why it looks like he doesn't care and his hitouts do not go anywhere. He is now basically a back up to Gawn and only to come in if Gawn needs a rest/gets injured.

I watched interestingly at the qtr tine break, Neeldy marched straight up to Jamar and by the body language gave him a fair old spray....

Obviously didn't help. Terrible start to the year for the Russian. Does not look interested.

Tim Harrington the list manager was crowing when he re-signed Jamar for a further 3-years. Though at the time, besides himself, Gawn was and still is injury prone, Spencer is an absolute dud, so there was no-one else.

There was Stef Martin.

"Hitouts" is the most useless stat in the game. What good is winning a hit out if it doesn't go to our advantage? None.

He had one kick today which was ineffective. He has had ONE effective kick for the year. Get Spencer in of put Clark in the ruck, Jamar is not only poor he is actually a liability to the team.

Totally agree. Absolutely liability. The midfield is where it's won and lost. If we can't get first possession on the footy, it's all futile.

Agree on Jamar, but Davey's been surprisingly good in his two games this year. We just need to expect a lot less of him these days.

Davey's been good, but cannot hold his tackles anymore. I'd keep playing him, but only out of a lack of options. Davey will always be a superb kick too.

I have been told that Jamar has been told that once Gawn is ready he is out of the team. That would explain why it looks like he doesn't care and his hitouts do not go anywhere. He is now basically a back up to Gawn and only to come in if Gawn needs a rest/gets injured.

If this is true, Jamar would not offer enough around the ground to play second string. We can't sit him in the forwardline and expect him to kick goals. ND and DB tried that. It didn't work. He's done, yet we have to pay out his contract despite probably serving the last year or so at Casey.

It's about respect.

Obviously you have none.

I find it difficult to respect ridiculousness.

Do you honesty think it's not fair for anyone to comment negatively on anyone or anything if they have not had first-hand experience in that area?

Of course, if you did, you would also not be able to comment on Jamar, as, since you've never played AFL football, you would have no idea what a good football player is, right?

Your argument was pathetic, and based on the fact that you disagreed with the view that Jamar's no good. If you disagree, then explain why you disagree. Don't tell a person they can't comment because they haven't played AFL football.

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Lol. The list goes on.

To be honest (off-topic, I know), it's such an indictment on where we've been the last 6 years. You have to wonder whether or not any of Dunn, Bate or MIller would have made it to 100 at any other club.

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He and Royal are the big issues with the Melbourne midfield. His work rate is atrocious. He doesn't get to contests. He's too slow. He offers nothing up forward. He taps generally straight to his feet. Rarely marks those kick ins on the back flank. He needs to go. Bring in Spencer. Gawn should be brought in once match fit. A hopeless decision to re-sign him for three years.

Correct. I don't know if its been posted yet but the effort from Jamar when the ball was coming in long and deep into the square at one stage late in the game was absolutely pathetic. He just had to run an extra ten metres to take a grab or maybe force it to ground. Instead he just spectated.

The laziest ruckman in the league right now. Needs to move aside as soon as Gawn is fit.

I have been told that Jamar has been told that once Gawn is ready he is out of the team. That would explain why it looks like he doesn't care and his hitouts do not go anywhere. He is now basically a back up to Gawn and only to come in if Gawn needs a rest/gets injured.

Well that's just a wonderful team orientated attitude.

We'll go places with that.

He is cooked. All AFL players must be able to put in second efforts and have more depth in their game than just "hit outs"!!

Gawn in the best today with Casey.

Catch you later Jamar.

Watched him closely all day. At a kick in he would jog and not demand the ball. When Mitch and Sylvia would lead players would kick to the One on one contest because they would demand the kick to them. Jamar was pathetic. For two years he has been afraid to kick the ball. Even I'm front of goal he would look to handball.

Mitch was our only reliable big man out there today.

Jamar and Sellars for that matter are not worthy of an AFL game right now.

Let us hope that Dawes will add something to that glaring inadequacy.

How about let Jamar have a run in the 2's V gws and get Gawn into the action....sadly won't happen cos Neeld loves Spencer.

Watched him closely all day. At a kick in he would jog and not demand the ball. When Mitch and Sylvia would lead players would kick to the One on one contest because they would demand the kick to them. Jamar was pathetic. For two years he has been afraid to kick the ball. Even I'm front of goal he would look to handball.

Agreed

Jamar is pathetic ruckman now, he is done and dusted as an AFL player.

So is Davey.

Agree, davey is also a pathetic ruckman.

Jamar has been washed up for a while now. Yet another blunder by Neeld's Demons to offer him the 3 three year deal. Apparently he was very quick to sign. About as quick as Neeld was when offered the Melbourne Job.

After saying all that he's been a great servant to the Demons and deserves more respect than some of these posts...dazzling Davey included.

Well that's just a wonderful team orientated attitude.

We'll go places with that.

rumor spoomermaker...I agree Gawny should be there next match if his knee's right. Only issue is that Spencer is next in the q

If all he can do is get around half of the total taps and basically just tap to his feet, why the f is he playing? Can't mark, can't kick, cant hit to advantage, can't stop his opponent. 10 years of mediocrity + 1 good year. I'd rather see Spence give it his all and get beaten than watch Jamar capitulate.

Max Gawn, come on down!

Should give Gawn and Spencer a game next against GWS next week.

There is also Fitzpatrick who could play Centre Half Forward or Forward Pocket.

And put Jack Watts at Full Forward, he cam to us as a forward.

how about go into GWS with Magner, Gawny up forward with Clark and Watts chf. Spencer to start in Ruck changing on interchange/Deep Forward Pocket with Gawny. OUts obviously include our "Russian" he may benefit from a couple of runs in the two's, a rest for Toumpass and Garlo.

Should have traded jamar to collingwood as part of the dawes deal and saved a decent draft pick

There was Stef Martin.

Agree, davey is also a pathetic ruckman.

But he's a better ruckman than Jamar...

Getting rid of him would have been the wrong move. Good experience at training, Gawn should play though