So Boyd or Aish to us next year?

We will improve next year back to a 7-15 type year at a minimum. I think we will be around 12-14th, with Suns, Power, GWS and Dogs below us. This would give us a pick 5 approx, and we would target Jack Billings from Oakleigh. He is mid/fwd now, but in 2013 will be more of a midfielder. Hard at it and can deliver. has very good skills. Watch out for him in the TAC Cup GF this weekend.

Footnote - get Jesse Hogan (post number 12 in favour of).

Freo apparently very keen on Hogan (source: print version of The Age) but I can't see how they could outbid our pick 3 or 4.

We will improve next year back to a 7-15 type year at a minimum. I think we will be around 12-14th, with Suns, Power, GWS and Dogs below us. This would give us a pick 5 approx, and we would target Jack Billings from Oakleigh. He is mid/fwd now, but in 2013 will be more of a midfielder. Hard at it and can deliver. has very good skills. Watch out for him in the TAC Cup GF this weekend.

Footnote - get Jesse Hogan (post number 12 in favour of).

Or Matt Couch, Brad from last year MD's brother, but Couch, Billings and kelly alla look like good mids

Edited September 21, 201213 yr by Jordie_tackles

Freo apparently very keen on Hogan (source: print version of The Age) but I can't see how they could outbid our pick 3 or 4.

Hogan had "work experience" at Fremantle as part of the AIS program back in April. No doubt they sussed him out then.

But don't tell their fans that we have pick 3 or 4. They seem hell-bent on pick 16 and a swathe of fringe players being good enough.

Hogan had "work experience" at Fremantle as part of the AIS program back in April. No doubt they sussed him out then.

But don't tell their fans that we have pick 3 or 4. They seem hell-bent on pick 16 and a swathe of fringe players being good enough.

Surely delisting Jay Van Berlo will hurt their chances.

Surely delisting Jay Van Berlo will hurt their chances.

I would think and this is one that they all suggested but makes some sense, IF Giles leaves GWS need a ruck, pick 16 and Clarke who could be GWS's first ruck would be tempting but not enough i admit.

Could Martin be a good piece in the MD puzzle? played first ruck for about 12 games not long ago?

Could this be the 2nd year in a row here we snatch the big forward Freo have their eyes on..?

So Boyd or Aish to us next year?

[channeling Bluey]

Aish looks to go alright, from the video I saw weeks back.

I just hope Neeld doesn't look past him because he won't be able to play till 2014 and Neeld only has 2 years left in his contract to get us up the ladder.

Definitely need a future forward considering Watts isn't developing as the forward we all thought he would.

Why ? What are you expecting next season ?

Do you think Adelaide supporters are now concerned that they waited a year to see Dangerfield play ? If we're holding up the cup in 2017 with Hogan dominating I doubt you'll be too concerned that Hogan played at Casey for a year in 2013.

Expecting better than 2012.

If the media is correct about the likes of Cook and Gysberts then that suggests Neeld is more about improvement right now than he is about developing.

Getting a KPF from 2014 onwards would appear to go against that.

Neeld is more about improvement right now than he is about developing.

Getting a KPF from 2014 onwards would appear to go against that.

Why does getting better now and developing need to be mutually exclusive ?

Our excellent hand at the draft, plus compensation for Moloney dictates that we can address needs now, as well as take and develop Hogan for a year.

Also, Neeld making a call on Cook, or Gysberts simply means he doesn't think they're good enough, or work hard enough. It doesn't necessarily mean he's not about developing. Coaches make calls on players every year. In Hogan out Cook is about as good as it gets.

I think Neeld is about effort, intensity, and talent. Not timelines on being good.

He and Misson treated 2012 like an extended Pre-Season with the amount of high-octane sessions they made the boys do during the first half of the season.

Anyway, we will soon see.

Why does getting better now and developing need to be mutually exclusive ?

Because you are talking about giving up pick 3 right now for something in 2014.

Because you are talking about giving up pick 3 right now for something in 2014.

You mean giving up an 18 year old for a 17 year old?

You mean giving up an 18 year old for a 17 year old?

That's one way of looking at it.

Another would be going into the 2014 season having a top 3 pick with 18-22 games under his belt on the list instead of a young KPF hopeful with no AFL experience.

That's one way of looking at it.

Another would be going into the 2014 season having a top 3 pick with 18-22 games under his belt on the list instead of a young KPF hopeful with no AFL experience.

Albeit one who is 193cms tall, 90+ kgs and just played a managed season in the VFL...

I like the idea of Hogan. Someone mentioned the name Brown and I couldn't get up to write my answer on the chalk-board.

I don't understand why people are saying pick 3 though,,. Who's going to outbid our pick 4?

Albeit one who is 193cms tall, 90+ kgs and just played a managed season in the VFL...

Would still be a young KPF hopeful with no AFL experience.

I'd rather get 22 games into a top pick from the super-draft.

Super-drafts are overrated. 2006 was supposedly a super-draft.

The thing, well a few things worry me about Hogan. Has he played any senior level football this year? I know he is in his first year at 18's level but Toumpas played in a senior premiership in the SANFL at that age. Is he really that good? question mark on his kicking for one thing and this is not easily fixed. Should we really risk a high draft pick on him? what can we get from this years draft that may be as good or better and a year advanced? Stringer, Toumpas, Macrea, Membrey etc.

I don't know the answers but am not sure about picking him up, it doesn't feel right to me.If I were picking up a 17 yo I would like to have seen him playing good football at senior level like O'Meara last year and not just the colts.

I know we need another kpf, but is this just wishful thinking. Plays like Brown, well no he doesn't, for one thing Brown is a beautiful kick of the ball.

The thing, well a few things worry me about Hogan. Has he played any senior level football this year? I know he is in his first year at 18's level but Toumpas played in a senior premiership in the SANFL at that age. Is he really that good? question mark on his kicking for one thing and this is not easily fixed. Should we really risk a high draft pick on him? what can we get from this years draft that may be as good or better and a year advanced? Stringer, Toumpas, Macrea, Membrey etc.

I don't know the answers but am not sure about picking him up, it doesn't feel right to me.If I were picking up a 17 yo I would like to have seen him playing good football at senior level like O'Meara last year and not just the colts.

I know we need another kpf, but is this just wishful thinking. Plays like Brown, well no he doesn't, for one thing Brown is a beautiful kick of the ball.

i agree 100 % people are blowing there pants off a bloke that cant kick for [censored] when there are blokes like toumpas Macrea who are gonna be elite mids in years to come.

Just remember one thing people is that James Sellar dominated if not had a more impressive underage football background then Hogan.. people can bring up the comparison about darling but atleast darling can kick! please MFC go for toumpas Macrea Membrey Wines instead of wasting it on a forward that we have to wait another year to pull on the red and blue!

i agree 100 % people are blowing there pants off a bloke that cant kick for [censored] when there are blokes like toumpas Macrea who are gonna be elite mids in years to come.

Just remember one thing people is that James Sellar dominated if not had a more impressive underage football background then Hogan.. people can bring up the comparison about darling but atleast darling can kick! please MFC go for toumpas Macrea Membrey Wines instead of wasting it on a forward that we have to wait another year to pull on the red and blue!

Morton, Tambling, Scully, Trapper were all next best thing mids

Morton, Tambling, Scully, Trapper were all next best thing mids

Scully will be a good player.

did you know beau dowler, mitch thorpe, lach hansen, jarrod grant luke livingston were all ment to be next big forwards to tear the AFL comp..

in comparison to the other skills of the game, goalkicking is one of the easiest to fix. by training with the other forwards, as well as coaching from leigh brown, hogan could easily develop a new routine that would lead to more reliable kicking. if that's the only problem in his game then i don't think we have much to worry about if we pick him up

A question I have about Hogan is will he be in our system next year or will he want to finish school in Perth.

Like others I see a few risks with using such a high pick on an underage KPP and this is offset a bit If we have him at Aami park and can put a year into him.