WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - JESSE HOGAN

[olisik 4,060]

If we trade pick 3 instead of pick 4 there must have been an agreement re Viney. Hopefully not and we Get Viney, Toumpas, Hogan and keep #14

Pick 3 or 4 is irrelevant. If we give pick 3 the draft will be

GWS: Whitfield

GWS: Grundy

GWS: Toumpas

MFC: O Rourke

If we give pick 4 it will be

GWS: Whitfield

GWS: Toumpas

MFC: O Rourke

GWS: Grundy

Also the better pick of the 2 may have been a sweetener so that GWS passed GC a compo in the Martin trade and to pass on Viney

GWS: Give us pick 3 instead of 4 and we will give GC a compo to not bid on Viney and tempt them to take Martin with pick #2

[Jordie_tackles 354]

How about 3 for Hogan and Jed Anderson who GWS control?

I would have liked this, but they just used the last pre-listed player pick for the saints in the deal for Tom Lee

[Redleg 41,427]

TWR just said can't use pick 4 for MD because it's a compo pick but this would almost certainly have to be wrong. Can't use it for FS but why would there be any restrictions on trades? Particularly since there's been rumours of Dogs using their compo pick (pick 6).

Correct. Compo pick can be traded.

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Here is the big question.

WHAT DO GC GET OUT OF ALL THIS?

Caddy doesnt want to know us? what is their sweetener? no rumour nothing? no players to trade?

[Deestroy All 14,266]

Could the Bulldogs getting Hawthorn's first pick add something towards their bid for Hogan?

If there's even any doubt that us and GWS have done a deal that is.

[Mickey "O" 32]

What about 3 &13 for hogan & 12... They get 2 picks in top 13 when they would have only had one, and give up a player they don't have access to anyway and pretty much the same pick they had anyway? Although if they don't take just 3 no reason to upgrade our pick as well...

[olisik 4,060]

Here is the big question.

WHAT DO GC GET OUT OF ALL THIS?

Caddy doesnt want to know us? what is their sweetener? no rumour nothing? no players to trade?

The compo pick they got back as part of the pick 2 for Minidraft Jack Martin trade.

[Redleg 41,427]

The deal with GWS for Hogan needs to appear to be a long protracted tough negotiation.

Yes grasshopper, you have thought that out well.

[Redleg 41,427]

4 and 13 for hogan and 12 sound any good?

Change the 4 to a 3 and it might be possible. I would prefer 3 for Hogan and 20 or Jed Anderson.

[olisik 4,060]

Bulldogs got Hawthorns first rounder for Brian Lake

They could package that with pick 5 to trump us on Hogan...

[binman 43,757]

I have to say, Hutchinson and Barrett normally annoy me to tears but Trade Radio has been great, even with 13 year olds calling up asking stupid questions.

They should stick to posting on Demonland

[old55 23,687]

Yes grasshopper, you have thought that out well.

We don't want any "Brock moments" do we.

[Jordie_tackles 354]

The compo pick they got back as part of the pick 2 for Minidraft Jack Martin trade.

Wasnt that like in the 60's?

EDIT - they swapped first round picks,

So yeah that may be it?

I would have thought with them cutting their list severely they would barely reach the 30's?

Edited October 8, 2012 by Jordie_tackles

[Redleg 41,427]

I would have liked this, but they just used the last pre-listed player pick for the saints in the deal for Tom Lee

Oh crap. Well back to 3 for Hogan and 20.

[Born to Run 204]

Given the GWS have just given up a player and picks #24 and #43 in return for pick #12 it would make sense that they could also give up Hogan and pick #20 for our cherished pick #3.

I thought it could not happen, but maybe......

[old55 23,687]

Oh crap. Well back to 3 for Hogan and 20.

I think you're going to be disappointed if you expect this deal to favour us or be equitable. The minimum we pay will be 3 for Hogan - we'll be the ones adding something I suspect.

[Redleg 41,427]

I think you're going to be disappointed if you expect this deal to favour us or be equitable. The minimum we pay will be 3 for Hogan - we'll be the ones adding something I suspect.

I know what you are getting at, but also look at the price for top MD pick was ND pick 2 with something back. Can't see us paying more for ND pick 2 even with a side benefit.

Actually the benefit may be with the other two, as they get their deals done.

[Axis of Bob 11,841]

Tim Harrington (on Jesse Hogan):

"We rate him extremely highly. We think he's going to be someone you can really develop a team around and with. That's a big statement about a 17-year-old, but he's impressed us no end."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/149385/default.aspx

[olisik 4,060]

I think pick 3 and pick 45 for Hogan and pick 20 would be fair.

Though we do need some late picks to pickup some small forwards...

[Born to Run 204]

I think it is possible that we could get 20 and hogan. The important thing is that GWS need / want badly pick 3. To have a monopoly on the elite players in teh draft this year is key. If they didnt have to trade MD2, they probably wouldnt, as that would also suit them, but they do.

[dee-luded 2,959]

IMO Grundy could well be even a more damaging player than Hogan?

I think its a 50/50 between the two.

Please, No more than P3....

[markc 975]

can Anyone confirm which team Hogan supported ? I have read it was melbourne but unsure ??

[JTR 2,855]

Here is the big question.

WHAT DO GC GET OUT OF ALL THIS?

Caddy doesnt want to know us? what is their sweetener? no rumour nothing? no players to trade?

Gold Coast obviously rate Martin more than they do Viney.

Maybe we got wind of this, feigned a bit of interest in Martin and told them if they nominated Viney at #2 we'd pass and use #3 for Martin?

[jayceebee31 761]

If we get Pedersen and Hogan, I would think Dawes may go on the backburner unless a swap of players or a cheap pick. Still have Clark, Fitzy and Watts plus Howe and Sylvia who can play forward.

Agree- I think Dawes for pick 13 would be a huge mistake,especially when you think Lynch whom you would not pick up for a 3rd round pick is ahead of him.

[dee-luded 2,959]

I think it is possible that we could get 20 and hogan. The important thing is that GWS need / want badly pick 3. To have a monopoly on the elite players in teh draft this year is key. If they didnt have to trade MD2, they probably wouldnt, as that would also suit them, but they do.

This is they're GWS last crack at the 4 mini draft picks. Gonski after this.

P3, take it or leave it... If they want P5++, they miss Grundy or Toumpas or others.

Edited October 8, 2012 by dee-luded