Hi people,

I have read several posts and first thing that stands out is the diversity if opinion from who should be coach to the game style, current culture at the club, clearing out the current list, who to keep, who to trade.

I have also noticed topics are randomly locked while others are not. For example an anti Liam Jurrah comment that wouldn't be tolerated in mainstream media is tolerated here but other comments involving mass player cullings or critique of the coach or the direction the coach is taking us are seemingly locked or not tolerated.

Can we say it as we see it or must we go with the general flow or mood of our members?

myself have followed the Dees since my namesake dominated Melbourne's forward line.

a general lack of leadership/inspiration from top to bottom seems to be the crux of melbourne's current problem.

what do we all think about this issue and am i somewhere near the mark of the general consensus?

hi people,

have read several posts and first thing that stands out is the diversity if opinion from who should be coach to the game style, current culture at the club, clearing out the current list, who to keep, who to trade. Have also noticed topics are randomly locked while others are not. For example an anti Liam Jurrah comment that wouldn't be tolerated in mainstream media is tolerated here but other comments involving mass player cullings or critique of the coach or the direction the coach is taking us are seemingly locked or not tolerated.

can we say it as we see it or must we go with the general flow or mood of our members?

myself have followed the Dees since my namesake dominated Melbourne's forward line.

a general lack of leadership/inspiration from top to bottom seems to be the crux of melbourne's current problem.

what do we all think about this issue and am i somewhere near the mark of the general consensus?

I think it can be said as it's seen, no one's trying to stop the small group of anti-Neeld's for example, more add the other side to the debate which they seem to want to ignore.

Re your point, we've lacked this since Neitz retired.

It takes a while to get used to this place. Fair to say you need a thick skin and preparedness to be shouted down if your opinion is in the minority. But the positives outweigh the negatives. There are alot of very learned footy people here whose opinions I've fast come to respect. In fact I'd say you'd be hard pressed finding another forum with so many in the one place.

As for Neeld, plenty of threads on that but I'm trying to stay more reserved in my judgement of him til this time next year. I'm not as convinced as some are on here, but he's making the right noises.

hi viney

my point was more about the general etiquette of the site. agree totally about Neitz. lets hope clarke can fill his shoes?

The "anti" neeld posts I have read don't seem "anti" , more questioning the direction of his game style and player management.

take the time as i have to read all posts associated with Liam Jurrah, as it leaves a nasty taste to say the least.

hi people,

have read several posts and first thing that stands out is the diversity if opinion from who should be coach to the game style, current culture at the club, clearing out the current list, who to keep, who to trade. Have also noticed topics are randomly locked while others are not. For example an anti Liam Jurrah comment that wouldn't be tolerated in mainstream media is tolerated here but other comments involving mass player cullings or critique of the coach or the direction the coach is taking us are seemingly locked or not tolerated.

can we say it as we see it or must we go with the general flow or mood of our members?

myself have followed the Dees since my namesake dominated Melbourne's forward line.

a general lack of leadership/inspiration from top to bottom seems to be the crux of melbourne's current problem.

what do we all think about this issue and am i somewhere near the mark of the general consensus?

congrats D&P, most people here couldn't spell etiquette let alone know what it means. LOL

hi viney

my point was more about the general etiquette of the site. agree totally about Neitz. lets hope clarke can fill his shoes?

The "anti" neeld posts I have read don't seem "anti" , more questioning the direction of his game style and player management.

take the time as i have to read all posts associated with Liam Jurrah, as it leaves a nasty taste to say the least.

You can be as anti Neeld as you like as far as i am aware. Just be prepared to back it up with something would be my advice and as long as it is fair game, ie no personal attacks or anything you should be well fine to say what is on your mind.

The more diverse opinion the better as a far as i am concerned as long as you can have some substance to the arguement.

Welcome

Edited September 14, 201212 yr by Jordie_tackles

Welcome Dillon & Parke...you and i started supporting this beautiful rabble around the same time as the 2 afore jmentioned were early heroes of mine.

26 was the first number i had...

Good Luck in here it is a ride....

Welcome Dillon & Parke...you and i started supporting this beautiful rabble around the same time as the 2 afore jmentioned were early heroes of mine.

26 was the first number i had...

Good Luck in here it is a ride....

thx wyl!!

hi viney

my point was more about the general etiquette of the site. agree totally about Neitz. lets hope clarke can fill his shoes?

The "anti" neeld posts I have read don't seem "anti" , more questioning the direction of his game style and player management.

take the time as i have to read all posts associated with Liam Jurrah, as it leaves a nasty taste to say the least.

The post's boasting the sentence "saaaaaaaaaaack neeld now" certainly are anti neeld and there's a handful of members pushing this barrow.

What specifically re the Jurrah posts have left a nasty taste?

And Clark has leadership, skill, courage etc. in spades. I eagerly await him delivering a bone crunching hip and shoulder, picking up the spilt ball and slotting a team lifting goal

hi viney

my point was more about the general etiquette of the site. agree totally about Neitz. lets hope clarke can fill his shoes?

The "anti" neeld posts I have read don't seem "anti" , more questioning the direction of his game style and player management.

take the time as i have to read all posts associated with Liam Jurrah, as it leaves a nasty taste to say the least.

D & P welcome, you'll learn to love the place.

RE: Jurrah, one of the downside of so many passionate people in one place is that things get heated, and sometimes the wrong things come out of people's mouths (fingers). Some had very absurd views on Liam, and in hindsight would take it back, some were thankful, some like me were frustrated. On Demonland you cannot take each post completely to heart because you'll be broken in a day. You'll learn to find posters you respect and posters you ignore- I'm sure for some members I'm on the respect list and for many I'm on the ignore. Regardless you won't find a better place for banter, or people who live and breath MFC more than us.

Clutch your breath and come on board. It's one hell of a ride.

hi people,

Hi yourself

as to etiquette; heres everything you would want to know http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/15-code-of-conduct-moderating-guide/#entry118

sometimes things get fudged a little however

Mods, lock this thread now.

Just kidding

Consider, re Jurrah, that that was the start of the great unknown that is this trading and drafting period. That alone can cause a surge in the blood pressure & emotions. It was also an unusual and, for a period of time, information-free exit which certainly compounded the issue. Then there's the love of the club. Desperately seeking improvement towards premierships does not sit well with losing a 40+ (at *worst*, IMO) goal a year player.

Then there are those that lack class, empathy, and yes etiquette.

Considering the absolute Garbage year the club & supporters we have had, i reckon this place has held together fairly well..

Imagine if Hawthorn won 30 games in 6 years....Like they used to 50-60 years ago.

Blood would be spilt Game of Thrones style!

Welcome Dillon & Parke...you and i started supporting this beautiful rabble around the same time as the 2 afore jmentioned were early heroes of mine.

26 was the first number i had...

Good Luck in here it is a ride....

Can we get Greg Parke to the MFC as our kicking coach ...ohh wait......

You can be as anti Neeld as you like as far as i am aware. Just be prepared to back it up with something would be my advice and as long as it is fair game, ie no personal attacks or anything you should be well fine to say what is on your mind.

The more diverse opinion the better as a far as i am concerned as long as you can have some substance to the arguement.

Welcome

hi Jordie!

thankx matey,

why are comments similar to the one below not questioned, blocked and seemingly tolerated? before i began to post i wanted to get a sense of the groups moods, what to say and not to say. Jurrah certainly seems a huge target and given all of the incidents involving him are alleged then how can demonlanders continue to post on the topic obvious to obvious slander of Liam?(please read post below) if I were Liam and happened to read this comment and many other anti liam threads then leaving the club would of be an easy decision to make.

anti Neeld posts can get a little boring I agree but lets face it melbourne only won 3 games this year and the general game style doesn't look great. its going to happen but not soon:) to put it out there i'm a Neeld man but do question many of the things he does. i feel Neeldy will warm into the job but it's going to be a long process and won't happen before 2015.

example of anti liam comment below

"6. Liam Jurrah - its pretty clear that he may be in jail in 2013, but if not I get strong feelings and indications that few under Neeld are happy with his work ethic.comments such as this one above do"

Edited September 14, 201212 yr by Dillon and Parke

hi Jordie!

thankx matey,

why are comments similar to the one below not questioned, blocked and seemingly tolerated? before i began to post i wanted to get a sense of the groups moods, what to say and not to say. Jurrah certainly seems a huge target and given all of the incidents involving him are alleged then how can demonlanders continue to post on the topic obvious to obvious slander of Liam?(please read post below) if I were Liam and happened to read this comment and many other anti liam threads then leaving the club would of be an easy decision to make. do we have any responsibility for the replies we make?

anti Neeld posts can get a little boring I agree but lets face it melbourne only won 3 games this year and the general game style doesn't look great. its going to happen but not soon:) to put it out there i'm a Neeld man but do question many of the things he does. i feel Neeldy will warm into the job but it's going to be a long process and won't happen before 2015.

example of anti liam comment below

"6. Liam Jurrah - its pretty clear that he may be in jail in 2013, but if not I get strong feelings and indications that few under Neeld are happy with his work ethic.comments such as this one above do"

What's the slander of Liam there? It's one poster's opinion. He MAY be in jail and he FEELS Neeld and co. aren't happy with his work ethic

It's not necessarily true or a view shared by everyone but the poster in questions hasn't said "he's a lazy so and so who will be in jail"

D & P welcome, you'll learn to love the place.

RE: Jurrah, one of the downside of so many passionate people in one place is that things get heated, and sometimes the wrong things come out of people's mouths (fingers). Some had very absurd views on Liam, and in hindsight would take it back, some were thankful, some like me were frustrated. On Demonland you cannot take each post completely to heart because you'll be broken in a day. You'll learn to find posters you respect and posters you ignore- I'm sure for some members I'm on the respect list and for many I'm on the ignore. Regardless you won't find a better place for banter, or people who live and breath MFC more than us.

Clutch your breath and come on board. It's one hell of a ride.

intriguing:) to ignore posts is almost like a self censorship? the reason i'm here is to interact and to share diverse opinion not only respond to comments the respected

perhaps over time this sentiment will change.

General rule of thumb appears to be - if you dont under stand something or you think the poster is wrong - You

a/ scream he is an idiot and knows nothing about what he is talking about. Especially if you still read the newspapers, because many of the poster in here still read the newspapers.

b/ you scream to the mods to close the thread again because of a difference of opinion - again many times because they have not read it in the newspapers. Therefore it cant be possible.

c/ claim the site is going down hill or the threads are becoming un-readable - again you guessed it - it hasn't appeared in the newspapers.

d/ you will find some posters love self-censoring others by simple bullying tactics

Then they hit the ignore button.

However, other than that the glass is always half full and we are all really Demons supporters at heart.

So enjoy yourself

Edited September 14, 201212 yr by Rassilon

intriguing:) to ignore posts is almost like a self censorship? the reason i'm here is to interact and to share diverse opinion not only respond to comments the respected

perhaps over time this sentiment will change.

Welcome D&P.

I'm a relatively new member of 'Land and I came here because all of the people who I used to talk about the Dees with have given up or moved interstate (except for my brother, who has no choice because I buy his membership). I love this site because, frankly, I'll never give up on the Dees and I need somewhere to talk all things Demon without boring my non-Demon friends into avoiding me.

Like you, I followed the forum for a while before joining. There is a fair amount of vitriol here but that's simply because people are passionate. And that's what I love. I think that you'll find that anything that is simply ignorant or repugnant will be quickly pointed out and justly deestroyed by other posters. Stick at it. It's a lot of fun!

Wait till you meet Rhino.....

OP is starting to annoy me already.

Hi people,

I have read several posts and first thing that stands out is the diversity if opinion from who should be coach to the game style, current culture at the club, clearing out the current list, who to keep, who to trade.

I have also noticed topics are randomly locked while others are not. For example an anti Liam Jurrah comment that wouldn't be tolerated in mainstream media is tolerated here but other comments involving mass player cullings or critique of the coach or the direction the coach is taking us are seemingly locked or not tolerated.    

Can we say it as we see it or must we go with the general flow or mood of our members?

myself have followed the Dees since my namesake dominated Melbourne's forward line.

a general lack of leadership/inspiration from top to bottom seems to be the crux of melbourne's current problem.

what do we all think about this issue and am i somewhere near the mark of the general consensus?

Welcome D&P.

You might want to have a look at a few more threads to find the general consensus as to the crux of Melbourne's problems.

Leadership being one of them but clearly that's being addressed and whilst it's not where we'd want to be in terms of experience it shall improve with the two Jacks and the new LG now one season in.

Yes, if there's a place of diverse opinions you want, you've found the right place.

You can say it as you see it, but be sure to have the COC guidelines in mind is my suggestion.

Happy reading.

OP is starting to annoy me already.

LOL

OP is starting to annoy me already.

op?