On 13/08/2012 at 09:14, Redleg said:

Beamer has been a loyal servant and a good clubman. That said, he now plays rugby. Get ball, tuck under arm, take two steps, get tackled, try to break tackle, fail and fall to ground, free kick to opposition. We have no room in our side for a rugby player. Sad but true. One other talent, constantly pointing out to team mates where to go. That talent is not highly sought in rugby players.

in reality hes been a Rugger for quite a few years. He seems to have lost a yard and now struggles to get his other trademark, a booming kick off.

If Moloney goes then he will be snapped up quick smart by gold coast who have only said they want older midfielders.

  On 13/08/2012 at 09:14, Redleg said:

Beamer has been a loyal servant and a good clubman. That said, he HAS ALWAYS played rugby. Get ball, tuck under arm, take two steps, get tackled, try to break tackle, fail and fall to ground, free kick to opposition. We have no room in our side for a rugby player. Sad but true. One other talent, constantly pointing out to team mates where to go. That talent is not highly sought in rugby players.

Edited for accuracy.

  On 13/08/2012 at 09:17, Norm Smith said:

If Moloney goes then he will be snapped up quick smart by gold coast who have only said they want older midfielders.

Good on them.

It won't worry us.

But it will give us some nice compensation to use in the draft, probably a 2nd round pick.

  On 13/08/2012 at 09:08, ThePassenger said:

It says on your profile that you joined this year, Jose. So was that when you were e25 or Artie Bucco?

Not either of those at the time, I don't think.

But I try to be a good boy now, since bouncing around between profiles is boring for everyone involved.

  On 13/08/2012 at 09:10, Striker475 said:

Gold Coast could use his type for a one- or two-year stint. Shove him in the guts and tell him to clear, clear, clear.

Freo, too.

Or Sydney, they have a habit of recycling old players on the brink and bringing them around.

  On 13/08/2012 at 08:51, Stuie said:

I don't disagree. He's been terrible this year, but he has been trying, something just isn't clicking for him, which is bound to happen with a senior player struggling to grasp a new gameplan.

He may go freely, get traded, stick around... Whatever happens I think he's copped his fair share on here this year, and that is my point.

moloneys body language is a terrible look out on the field! he deserves every critism he gets for the [censored] poor attitude he has shown this year. just hope it doesn't rub off into the young players. i know for a fact beamer cannot wait till season finish so he can pack his bags and leave. good as gone.

  On 13/08/2012 at 09:42, waikikkamukau said:

Or Sydney, they have a habit of recycling old players on the brink and bringing them around.

Reckon he's too old for the Swans - most of those that they've 'recycled' have been around the 23-24 mark, not 29(?)

  On 13/08/2012 at 09:55, Striker475 said:

Reckon he's too old for the Swans - most of those that they've 'recycled' have been around the 23-24 mark, not 29(?)

Besides, that [censored] Roos couldn't pet name him....he's not a Mummy, or a Goodsy, or a Kirky.

Maybe a Brento? Brenty? Nah.....

If cook gets to stay and Maloney goes... Gys, morton, bate... The list goes on.

  On 13/08/2012 at 09:42, waikikkamukau said:

Or Sydney, they have a habit of recycling old players on the brink and bringing them around.

Whereas we have a habit of not getting the best out of our current players and rarely out of recycled players (Clark aside, though he's hardly 'recycled').

Keep Moloney, one year deal. He has experience, body size and has shown in the past that he can play well. A one year deal will say to him that if he doesn't lift his game, then he's gone, and no one would want him after two bad years in a row.

With Green's experience missing next year, I think Moloney needs to re-signed. Unless we can pick up some good FAs, Beamer is a required player.

Let's not eat our own, like some clubs do.

  On 13/08/2012 at 09:52, dazzledavey36 said:

moloneys body language is a terrible look out on the field! he deserves every critism he gets for the [censored] poor attitude he has shown this year. just hope it doesn't rub off into the young players. i know for a fact beamer cannot wait till season finish so he can pack his bags and leave. good as gone.

I think that is a harsh assessment although he does seem to spend more time barking orders than much else this season.

A fact? Care to clarify your source? Ive heard similar actually although my source is pretty scetchy (well not according to him, but he was wrong on Scully). A new bloke at my work is in the same golf course as Jack Watts and a few other demons including some of the non-field staff.

The running joke there is that they spend more time perfecting their golf game than their AFL, LOL. Harsh but easily said when we are going so badly.

Anyway Ive been starting to pump this bloke for info and he is sussing a few things out HOPEFULLY...

  On 13/08/2012 at 10:11, Moonshadow said:

With Green's experience missing next year, I think Moloney needs to re-signed. Unless we can pick up some good FAs, Beamer is a required player.

Let's not eat our own, like some clubs do.

While I tend to agree, I think we would have kept Green before we kept Moloney. Green could still work as a second option up forward parked in the goal square or pocket, whereas slow midfielders are struggling more and more.

I hope Moloney stays and turns it around but lets be honest - he wont play in a premiership at Melbourne.

  On 13/08/2012 at 10:09, Josh said:

If cook gets to stay and Maloney goes... Gys, morton, bate... The list goes on.

FMD its Moloney. He's only been at MFC 8 years.

Beamer made a decision over the last few years to stay bulky and try to push through. Name another midfielder with his experience that's gone the same route? Everyone is trimming down and improving their ability to run for 3 hours.

He looks like a dinosaur now. I think he'll struggle to get much interest.

If GC want him can we trade him for Caddy, or does free agency prohibit it?

  On 13/08/2012 at 10:22, Norm Smith said:

I hope Moloney stays and turns it around but lets be honest - he wont play in a premiership at Melbourne.

The way we are going you could say this about most of the list.

  On 13/08/2012 at 11:16, The heart beats true said:

Beamer made a decision over the last few years to stay bulky and try to push through. Name another midfielder with his experience that's gone the same route? Everyone is trimming down and improving their ability to run for 3 hours.

He looks like a dinosaur now. I think he'll struggle to get much interest.

If GC want him can we trade him for Caddy, or does free agency prohibit it?

resticted free agents as per:

The player is eligible to field offers from all rival AFL clubs.

If he wishes to change clubs, the player must decide on the best offer of his choice from one rival club.

His club has the right to match the presented offer.

If the club matches the offer, he may choose to remain with his original club, seek a trade or enter the Draft.

If the club does not or can not match the offer, the player can move to the new club of his choice.

His original club will receive a compensation pick for the loss of the player, on an AFL-determined formula to apply where clubs lose more free agents than they gain in any single transfer period.

  On 13/08/2012 at 08:20, Stuie said:

Right, so you have faith in a coach who has been around a few months but want to wack our (albeit out of form) current BnF who has been around 8 years?

Exactly right. To get rid of Beamer would show disgraceful club culture. Enough to make me not renew my membership, and feel footy is nothing but a business.

Footy is a lot more than just cold business, there are fundamental human qualities like loyalty and decency that form the backbone of a great club culture. Rrov, your philosophy is full of holes. Beamer is the reigning b&f, a beast of a man that is coming to grips with a new game plan.

Seriously, some of you blokes would sell out there mothers.

Moloney stays.

Davey stays.

Rivers stays.

And I hope green wasn't pushed.

Really, neeld makes excuses about experience and if he forces these blokes out, I will be completed dumbfounded.

Even having green play 5 games for the season and the rest at Casey is better than not having him at all. Look at gws, young guys need older fellas to look up to.

Anyway, I really hope neeld dosnt strip our soul bare, and replace it with mercenaries.

Time will tell.

Of course footy is a business . You want the smaltzy homliness of a suburban or country footy club... go there.

Funny how you want folk to forget these 'professionals" are paid a hell of a lot of money to do their work.

What barbie world do you actually live in ? oh thats right ...the one where folk live under bridges !!

Never has one players stocks decreased so rapidly 19 brownlow votes doubt he'll get one this year.

Could he be injured?

If not than i hold grave concerns for a favourite player of mine.

At times he looks lost out there he has lost all instinct for the game.

  On 13/08/2012 at 11:48, tonatopia said:

Seriously, some of you blokes would sell out there mothers.

Is that an offer? I'll throw in my sister and a couple of 'project player' nephews too.

  On 13/08/2012 at 11:48, tonatopia said:

Seriously, some of you blokes would sell out there mothers.

Moloney stays.

Davey stays.

Rivers stays.

And I hope green wasn't pushed.

Really, neeld makes excuses about experience and if he forces these blokes out, I will be completed dumbfounded.

Even having green play 5 games for the season and the rest at Casey is better than not having him at all. Look at gws, young guys need older fellas to look up to.

Anyway, I really hope neeld dosnt strip our soul bare, and replace it with mercenaries.

Time will tell.

So you want another 3 wins in 2013 Topia??

Moloney and Davey are cooked. Finished. Physically and Mentally. Time for the boys to move on.

  On 13/08/2012 at 11:53, Diablo Deemon said:

Never has one players stocks decreased so rapidly 19 brownlow votes doubt he'll get one this year.

Could he be injured?

If not than i hold grave concerns for a favourite player of mine.

At times he looks lost out there he has lost all instinct for the game.

I think youre on to something but i dont htink its physical. He's lost the 'will" in a fashion. He doesnt beleive, whether its in himself, the club, its coach or the way forward where'ever .... Footy is so much between the ears and hes not in a good place.

Some may think many of us heartless as we seem tosome to overlook the humanity of the game, or any endeavour but its not the case. There is hte person and there is the game. I acknowledge the person but its the game im interested in. You only have to take your eye off the ball a smidge and itll pass you by.

hes at the crossroads. As a person I wish him well..As to the clubs fortunes we simply need players of ability who buy in. If he cant, hes moved on, thats life.

  On 13/08/2012 at 10:20, Norm Smith said:

I think that is a harsh assessment although he does seem to spend more time barking orders than much else this season.

A fact? Care to clarify your source? Ive heard similar actually although my source is pretty scetchy (well not according to him, but he was wrong on Scully). A new bloke at my work is in the same golf course as Jack Watts and a few other demons including some of the non-field staff.

The running joke there is that they spend more time perfecting their golf game than their AFL, LOL. Harsh but easily said when we are going so badly.

Anyway Ive been starting to pump this bloke for info and he is sussing a few things out HOPEFULLY...

Moloney has always barked instructions. It's usually been because he's been too lazy to do the work himself.