I'm not sugar coating anything - more like being fair minded - not venting

Are you suggesting I am not being fair minded?

Nothing could be fairer than examining his many years with the club and stating what the club thought of him - ie the B&F. You may of course continue to have a rose coloured rear view mirror if you wish but it's not reality.

can anyone remember what we got for Brent Grgic? I would have paid someone to take him off our hands

can anyone remember what we got for Brent Grgic? I would have paid someone to take him off our hands

Pick 56 - Brad Miller.

Are you suggesting I am not being fair minded?

Nothing could be fairer than examining his many years with the club and stating what the club thought of him - ie the B&F. You may of course continue to have a rose coloured rear view mirror if you wish but it's not reality.

Best we agree to disagree 'jnrmac'

Pick 56 - Brad Miller.

oh well, better than grgic

oh well, better than grgic

Both of them fit in to the "almost was" category I reckon.

Btw I heard a story - and I don't know how much truth there is to it - that a big contributor to Grgic's absolute collapse in form was due to the absolute incessant, relentless hounding he received online, at matches and in public. I know footy players are meant to be "tough" but they shouldn't be expected to be completely immune to the human side of things. The way Grgic got treated by so-called supporters in his latter years was shameful, and I don't think the reception Cale Morton gets is much better.

Both of them fit in to the "almost was" category I reckon.

Btw I heard a story - and I don't know how much truth there is to it - that a big contributor to Grgic's absolute collapse in form was due to the absolute incessant, relentless hounding he received online, at matches and in public. I know footy players are meant to be "tough" but they shouldn't be expected to be completely immune to the human side of things. The way Grgic got treated by so-called supporters in his latter years was shameful, and I don't think the reception Cale Morton gets is much better.

agreed, i know i sound like one of these guys but i have changed. i have started a tradition of wearing the badges of much maligned players on my scarff. it started with watts and this year i have picked up cales (i did ask if they would sell me the one that had cales name but moloneys picture but they wouldnt. Unfortunately i had a bit of trouble picking up one for juice.

Both of them fit in to the "almost was" category I reckon.

Btw I heard a story - and I don't know how much truth there is to it - that a big contributor to Grgic's absolute collapse in form was due to the absolute incessant, relentless hounding he received online, at matches and in public. I know footy players are meant to be "tough" but they shouldn't be expected to be completely immune to the human side of things. The way Grgic got treated by so-called supporters in his latter years was shameful, and I don't think the reception Cale Morton gets is much better.

This deserves a thread of it's own. From a couple of snippets out of interviews, I have absolutely no doubt that Cale Morton is not only aware of the [censored] he cops from supporters, but it also impacts negatively on him. (Btw - not trying to point the finger at anyone, as I have said some unpleasant things at times about him)

This deserves a thread of it's own. From a couple of snippets out of interviews, I have absolutely no doubt that Cale Morton is not only aware of the [censored] he cops from supporters, but it also impacts negatively on him. (Btw - not trying to point the finger at anyone, as I have said some unpleasant things at times about him)

would it be out of the question to create a love thread where the only comments allowed are praise towards players. we could call it a happy place

Edited July 5, 201213 yr by demonoid

I'm not sugar coating anything - more like being fair minded - not venting

TJ - Like many before him a huge waste of talent.

On his day he was so elite - His finest moment surely came in that 2003/2004? Semi - Final Versus Adelaide

40 points down at 1/4 time & he changed the game so dramatically with pin point passing & gut running.

15 points up at 3/4 time & sadly Trapper ran out of petrol & we lost.

Sums up his career really & The Dee's plight for a long time.

Despite all his short coming's he was definately one of my favourite Demons when on song.

TJ - Like many before him a huge waste of talent.

On his day he was so elite - His finest moment surely came in that 2003/2004? Semi - Final Versus Adelaide

40 points down at 1/4 time & he changed the game so dramatically with pin point passing & gut running.

15 points up at 3/4 time & sadly Trapper ran out of petrol & we lost.

Sums up his career really & The Dee's plight for a long time.

Despite all his short coming's he was definately one of my favourite Demons when on song.

Was as good a kick as I have every seen play at the MFC.

Was as good a kick as I have every seen play at the MFC.

Well since Alan Johnson for passing, but Jakovich and Bennett have claims too for Distance and Accuracy.

Neitz is the only one who never seems to cop it .

That bloke only managed to kick 631 goals from a total of 306 games.

Soft ! I tell ya.

On his day he was so elite - His finest moment surely came in that 2003/2004? Semi - Final Versus Adelaide

40 points down at 1/4 time & he changed the game so dramatically with pin point passing & gut running.

15 points up at 3/4 time & sadly Trapper ran out of petrol & we lost.

Sums up his career really & The Dee's plight for a long time.

Yep, remembered for a game he played well in for 2 qrs.

Have never seen a happier bloke in a post game interview after losing a Semi-final either.