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I'm not sugar coating anything - more like being fair minded - not venting

Are you suggesting I am not being fair minded?

Nothing could be fairer than examining his many years with the club and stating what the club thought of him - ie the B&F. You may of course continue to have a rose coloured rear view mirror if you wish but it's not reality.

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    can anyone remember what we got for Brent Grgic? I would have paid someone to take him off our hands

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    Are you suggesting I am not being fair minded?

    Nothing could be fairer than examining his many years with the club and stating what the club thought of him - ie the B&F. You may of course continue to have a rose coloured rear view mirror if you wish but it's not reality.

    Best we agree to disagree 'jnrmac'

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    oh well, better than grgic

    Both of them fit in to the "almost was" category I reckon.

    Btw I heard a story - and I don't know how much truth there is to it - that a big contributor to Grgic's absolute collapse in form was due to the absolute incessant, relentless hounding he received online, at matches and in public. I know footy players are meant to be "tough" but they shouldn't be expected to be completely immune to the human side of things. The way Grgic got treated by so-called supporters in his latter years was shameful, and I don't think the reception Cale Morton gets is much better.

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    Both of them fit in to the "almost was" category I reckon.

    Btw I heard a story - and I don't know how much truth there is to it - that a big contributor to Grgic's absolute collapse in form was due to the absolute incessant, relentless hounding he received online, at matches and in public. I know footy players are meant to be "tough" but they shouldn't be expected to be completely immune to the human side of things. The way Grgic got treated by so-called supporters in his latter years was shameful, and I don't think the reception Cale Morton gets is much better.

    agreed, i know i sound like one of these guys but i have changed. i have started a tradition of wearing the badges of much maligned players on my scarff. it started with watts and this year i have picked up cales (i did ask if they would sell me the one that had cales name but moloneys picture but they wouldnt. Unfortunately i had a bit of trouble picking up one for juice.
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    Both of them fit in to the "almost was" category I reckon.

    Btw I heard a story - and I don't know how much truth there is to it - that a big contributor to Grgic's absolute collapse in form was due to the absolute incessant, relentless hounding he received online, at matches and in public. I know footy players are meant to be "tough" but they shouldn't be expected to be completely immune to the human side of things. The way Grgic got treated by so-called supporters in his latter years was shameful, and I don't think the reception Cale Morton gets is much better.

    This deserves a thread of it's own. From a couple of snippets out of interviews, I have absolutely no doubt that Cale Morton is not only aware of the [censored] he cops from supporters, but it also impacts negatively on him. (Btw - not trying to point the finger at anyone, as I have said some unpleasant things at times about him)

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    This deserves a thread of it's own. From a couple of snippets out of interviews, I have absolutely no doubt that Cale Morton is not only aware of the [censored] he cops from supporters, but it also impacts negatively on him. (Btw - not trying to point the finger at anyone, as I have said some unpleasant things at times about him)

    would it be out of the question to create a love thread where the only comments allowed are praise towards players. we could call it a happy place

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    I'm not sugar coating anything - more like being fair minded - not venting

    TJ - Like many before him a huge waste of talent.

    On his day he was so elite - His finest moment surely came in that 2003/2004? Semi - Final Versus Adelaide

    40 points down at 1/4 time & he changed the game so dramatically with pin point passing & gut running.

    15 points up at 3/4 time & sadly Trapper ran out of petrol & we lost.

    Sums up his career really & The Dee's plight for a long time.

    Despite all his short coming's he was definately one of my favourite Demons when on song.

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    TJ - Like many before him a huge waste of talent.

    On his day he was so elite - His finest moment surely came in that 2003/2004? Semi - Final Versus Adelaide

    40 points down at 1/4 time & he changed the game so dramatically with pin point passing & gut running.

    15 points up at 3/4 time & sadly Trapper ran out of petrol & we lost.

    Sums up his career really & The Dee's plight for a long time.

    Despite all his short coming's he was definately one of my favourite Demons when on song.

    Was as good a kick as I have every seen play at the MFC.

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    Was as good a kick as I have every seen play at the MFC.

    Well since Alan Johnson for passing, but Jakovich and Bennett have claims too for Distance and Accuracy.

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    Neitz is the only one who never seems to cop it .

    That bloke only managed to kick 631 goals from a total of 306 games.

    Soft ! I tell ya.

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    On his day he was so elite - His finest moment surely came in that 2003/2004? Semi - Final Versus Adelaide

    40 points down at 1/4 time & he changed the game so dramatically with pin point passing & gut running.

    15 points up at 3/4 time & sadly Trapper ran out of petrol & we lost.

    Sums up his career really & The Dee's plight for a long time.

    Yep, remembered for a game he played well in for 2 qrs.

    Have never seen a happier bloke in a post game interview after losing a Semi-final either.

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