THE CONTRACTS THREAD [with updates]

[Dr. Gonzo 24,205]

Not to be pedantic rpfc but Blease is signed to 2014 not 2015.

[Undeeterred 3,123]

Not to be pedantic rpfc but Blease is signed to 2014 not 2015.

I think that last graphic was rpfc's 'wishlist', wasn't it? Or am I missing something.

The one above that (which wasn't updated for Blease yet) is the current picture.

[rpfc 28,359]

Not to be pedantic rpfc but Blease is signed to 2014 not 2015.

I think that last graphic was rpfc's 'wishlist', wasn't it? Or am I missing something.

The one above that (which wasn't updated for Blease yet) is the current picture.

Yeah, it was what I would do.

And I only update the first post of this thread. That has the current Contracts picture as it stands now.

[Undeeterred 3,123]

Ahh excellent.

Thanks.

[DemonWA 3,932]

great work Sammy Blease!

[rpfc 28,359]

2015

Clark, Trengove, Jamar, Garland, McKenzie, Howe, Jones

2014

Frawley, Tapscott, McDonald, Blease,

2013

Watts, Sylvia, Davey, Gysberts, Morton, Grimes, Taggert, Gawn, Martin, Tynan, Fitzpatrick

2012

OOC (in number order)

Batram, Bennell, Petterd, Strauss, Cook, Jurrah, MacDonald, Jetta, Davis, Spencer, Bail, Sellar

Rookies (upgrade or delist)

Nicholson ®, Evans ®, Lawrence ®

Rookies (1 year option)

Couch, Magner, Sheahan, Williams

RFA

Moloney

UFA

Green, Rivers, Bate, and Dunn.

Primary List Vacancies - 4

Rookie List Vacancies - 0

*On assumption that there will be 40 on the Primary List (with Veterans List being abolished) and 6 on the Rookie List.

Updated.

[olisik 4,060]

2015 will be an expensive year for us

[sylvinator 96]

2015 will be an expensive year for us

The only players we need to pay decent wage to is Grimes and Sylvia.

Everyone else would be your basic average AFL wage

[olisik 4,060]

The only players we need to pay decent wage to is Grimes and Sylvia.

Everyone else would be your basic average AFL wage

Clark, Trengove, Jones and Howe out of contract this year. by then they will be tearing it apart I would think

[daisycutter 29,612]

Updated.

suggestion - use colours for the movements e.g. red for gorn, green for trade-bait etc

[old dee 23,786]

suggestion - use colours for the movements e.g. red for gorn, green for trade-bait etc

Going to be a lot of red on there DC

[rpfc 28,359]

suggestion - use colours for the movements e.g. red for gorn, green for trade-bait etc

Have a play around with it - but I am just going to use the OP as a definitive - 'this is the state of our list right now' piece.

[DemonWA 3,932]

Interestingly, when Hardwick culled the tigers at the end of '09 he made 12 changes all up. http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-sport/polak-nine-others-delisted-by-richmond-20091030-hoxy.html

They shed more than 1100 games' experience.

[rpfc 28,359]

THE CONTRACTS THREAD

2015

Clark, Trengove, Jamar, Garland, McKenzie, Howe, Jones, Hogan, Viney

2014

Frawley, Tapscott, McDonald, Blease, Byrnes, Barry

2013

Watts, Sylvia, Davey, Gysberts, Morton, Grimes, Taggert, Gawn, Martin, Tynan, Fitzpatrick

2012

OOC (in number order)

Batram, Bennell, Petterd, Strauss, Cook, Jurrah, MacDonald, Jetta, Davis, Spencer, Bail, Sellar

Rookies (upgrade or delist)

Nicholson ®, Evans ®, Lawrence ®

Rookies (1 year option)

Couch, Magner, Sheahan, Williams

RFA

Moloney

UFA

Green, Rivers, Bate, and Dunn.

Primary List Vacancies - 1

Rookie List Vacancies - 0

IN: Viney (ND26), Hogan (ND3), Barry (ND13), Byrnes (FA)

OUT: Green, Moloney, Jurrah, Lawrence ®

*On assumption that there will be 40 on the Primary List (with Veterans List being abolished) and 6 on the Rookie List.

**On assumption Hogan is not one of the 40 for 2013.

Updated and altered to reflect the state of the list rather than simply 'who is OOC.'

[Theo 272]

Next year 2013 with be very interesting. If Davey, Morton and Gysberts are still on the list they are the only ones that would be a chance of being delisted. Watts, Sylvia, Gawn, Taggert, Tynan, Fitzpatrick and Grimes are unlikely to delisted. I believe Sylvia will a restricted FA but from all reports he is not likely to leave the MFC.

Should Morton or Gysberts be traded this year as expected there are few options available to the Club to delist a minimum of 3 players as required by the AFL. Players like Sellar, Bartram and Strauss could agree to one year only contracts, The first two might but I doubt Strauss would.

List management next year could be very interesting.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Interestingly, when Hardwick culled the tigers at the end of '09 he made 12 changes all up. http://news.theage.c...91030-hoxy.html

They shed more than 1100 games' experience.

'changing the culture, to a new one'...

Blight did it @ the crows... I don't know how many..

We need to change the failing ways of more than 15 + years...

a cleanout is a must.

[rpfc 28,359]

We have 1 list vacancy as it stands now. Hogan will not be apart of the 40 for 2013. Choose your deletions/re-signings but remember that we may pick up a couple senior bodies before the draft, may upgrade Nicholson, and may get a comp pick.

IN: ND4, ND21, ND48, ND49 (comp pick), ND70, PSD3, Player Traded In (may take ND pick), Delisted FA

That's another 7 spots to open up. Martin, Gysberts, and Morton may be traded but they all are contracted for 2013.

OOC

Batram, Bennell, Petterd, Strauss, Cook, MacDonald, Jetta, Davis, Spencer, Bail, Sellar

UFA

Rivers, Bate, and Dunn.

They are those that I think will go but not my preference - I would prefer to let Dunn go and keep Davis.

[rpfc 28,359]

I think that we may only take Pick 4, Viney and Pick 48ish from the draft in terms of kids (or anyone if we use Delisted FA more than pick up state league players).

With one vacancy on the list at the minute we would have a preference similar to this in terms of who we would want to keep compared to who we would want to bring in.

OUT

1. Bennell

2. Petterd

3. Cook

4. MacDonald

5. Bate

6. Martin (likely to be traded)

7. Rivers (likely to go through FA)

8. Sellar

9. Dunn

10. Batram (possible rookie-ing?)

11. Gysberts (possible trade)

12. Spencer

13. Strauss

14. Bail

IN (Viney, Byrnes, and Barry already counted, Hogan doesn't go on list yet)

1. Pick 4

2. Pick 48ish

3. Dawes

4. Pedersen

5. Ray

6. PSD3

7. Nicholson

8. Pick 68ish

9. Banner

10. Rodan

You can put those 'outs' in any order you wish and when you get to the point that whatever we get in will be just as speculative as what we get in - you stop cutting people.

I would probably stop around 7 more deletions from here (remember that Green, Moloney, Jurrah, and the vacancy from the abolishment of the VL are already counted). That would mean 10 names gone and 11 new players on the primary list with Hogan waiting in the wings.

That's quite a change...

[Footynut 302]

I think that we may only take Pick 4, Viney and Pick 48ish from the draft in terms of kids (or anyone if we use Delisted FA more than pick up state league players).

With one vacancy on the list at the minute we would have a preference similar to this in terms of who we would want to keep compared to who we would want to bring in.

OUT

1. Bennell

2. Petterd

3. Cook

4. MacDonald

5. Bate

6. Martin (likely to be traded)

7. Rivers (likely to go through FA)

8. Sellar

9. Dunn

10. Batram (possible rookie-ing?)

11. Gysberts (possible trade)

12. Spencer

13. Strauss

14. Bail

IN (Viney, Byrnes, and Barry already counted, Hogan doesn't go on list yet)

1. Pick 4

2. Pick 48ish

3. Dawes

4. Pedersen

5. Ray

6. PSD3

7. Nicholson

8. Pick 68ish

9. Banner

10. Rodan

You can put those 'outs' in any order you wish and when you get to the point that whatever we get in will be just as speculative as what we get in - you stop cutting people.

I would probably stop around 7 more deletions from here (remember that Green, Moloney, Jurrah, and the vacancy from the abolishment of the VL are already counted). That would mean 10 names gone and 11 new players on the primary list with Hogan waiting in the wings.

That's quite a change...

Just to clarify Evans and Nicholson had Iron Clad contracts committing to being upgraded signed prior to Neelds arrival this happen this year. Therefore regardless they both will be elevated to the senior list. So you need to factor in 2 rookie upgrades to the senior list. I also think this is one factor why we were happy to take Hogan as we could keep one spot on the list open for one of our current players for one more year while still adding a player to commence with us the year after.

[rhaz 342]

1. Pick 4

2. Pick 48ish

3. Dawes

4. Pedersen

5. Ray

6. PSD3

7. Nicholson

8. Pick 68ish

9. Banner

10. Rodan

That's quite a change...

Bringing in a bunch of poo to replace poo.

[Footynut 302]

'changing the culture, to a new one'...

Blight did it @ the crows... I don't know how many..

We need to change the failing ways of more than 15 + years...

a cleanout is a must.

I have spoken to Neeld personally about this and his view was Hardwick saw Clarkson go through 'hell' by not culling when he first got to Hawthorn and therefore decided to go hard first year. Neeld said he could have done this first year but wanted to give players an opportunity. I think halfway through last year he was regretting that decision as he was let down badly by certain players and their level of commitment and ability.

[Brian Wilson 331]

Bringing in a bunch of poo to replace poo.

Pick 4 is poo? You already know who it is and you have seen them play in red and blue on the G?

I'm looking forward to round one. But I'll need to spend a bit of time learning the new numbers before I go to the game. Otherwise I'll have to ask 'who's that?' for every second kick.

[Footynut 302]

Pick 4 is poo? You already know who it is and you have seen them play in red and blue on the G?

I'm looking forward to round one. But I'll need to spend a bit of time learning the new numbers before I go to the game. Otherwise I'll have to ask 'who's that?' for every second kick.

Further to that Jack Viney is Poo is he? Clarke was certainly poo last year so we can assume Dawes will be too right?

Great logic...What is amazing is how quickly some people turn these threads to poo..

[rpfc 28,359]

Bringing in a bunch of poo to replace poo.

Pick 4, Dawes, Pedersen, Nicholson and Ray would be an improvement on those that leave the primary list.

I don't agree with your sentiment at all.

[rpfc 28,359]

THE CONTRACTS THREAD

2016

Dawes

2015

Clark, Trengove, Jamar, Garland, McKenzie, Howe, Jones, Hogan, Viney

2014

Frawley, Tapscott, McDonald, Blease, Byrnes, Barry

2013

Watts, Sylvia, Davey, Gysberts, Morton, Grimes, Taggert, Gawn, Martin, Tynan, Fitzpatrick

2012

OOC (in number order)

Batram, Bennell, Petterd, Strauss, Cook, Jurrah, MacDonald, Jetta, Davis, Spencer, Bail, Sellar

Rookies (upgrade or delist)

Nicholson ®, Evans ®, Lawrence ®

Rookies (1 year option)

Couch, Magner, Sheahan, Williams

RFA

Moloney

UFA

Green, Rivers, Bate, and Dunn.

Primary List Vacancies - 0

Rookie List Vacancies - 0

IN: Viney (ND26), Hogan, Barry, Byrnes (FA), Dawes

ND4, ND58ish, ND65ish

PSD3

OUT: Green, Moloney, Jurrah, Lawrence ®

*On assumption that there will be 40 on the Primary List (with Veterans List being abolished) and 6 on the Rookie List.

**On assumption Hogan is not one of the 40 for 2013.

Updated.

We are officially out of free list spots. Deletions to come for the potential use of ND4, ND58, ND64, PSD3, and any Delisted FA.

Edited October 16, 2012 by rpfc