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THE CONTRACTS THREAD [with updates]

rpfc
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Not to be pedantic rpfc but Blease is signed to 2014 not 2015.

I think that last graphic was rpfc's 'wishlist', wasn't it? Or am I missing something.

The one above that (which wasn't updated for Blease yet) is the current picture.

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    Not to be pedantic rpfc but Blease is signed to 2014 not 2015.

    I think that last graphic was rpfc's 'wishlist', wasn't it? Or am I missing something.

    The one above that (which wasn't updated for Blease yet) is the current picture.

    Yeah, it was what I would do.

    And I only update the first post of this thread. That has the current Contracts picture as it stands now.

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    great work Sammy Blease!

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    2015

    Clark, Trengove, Jamar, Garland, McKenzie, Howe, Jones

    2014

    Frawley, Tapscott, McDonald, Blease,

    2013

    Watts, Sylvia, Davey, Gysberts, Morton, Grimes, Taggert, Gawn, Martin, Tynan, Fitzpatrick

    2012

    OOC (in number order)

    Batram, Bennell, Petterd, Strauss, Cook, Jurrah, MacDonald, Jetta, Davis, Spencer, Bail, Sellar

    Rookies (upgrade or delist)

    Nicholson ®, Evans ®, Lawrence ®

    Rookies (1 year option)

    Couch, Magner, Sheahan, Williams

    RFA

    Moloney

    UFA

    Green, Rivers, Bate, and Dunn.

    Primary List Vacancies - 4

    Rookie List Vacancies - 0

    *On assumption that there will be 40 on the Primary List (with Veterans List being abolished) and 6 on the Rookie List.

    Updated.

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    2015 will be an expensive year for us

    The only players we need to pay decent wage to is Grimes and Sylvia.

    Everyone else would be your basic average AFL wage

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    The only players we need to pay decent wage to is Grimes and Sylvia.

    Everyone else would be your basic average AFL wage

    Clark, Trengove, Jones and Howe out of contract this year. by then they will be tearing it apart I would think

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    Updated.

    suggestion - use colours for the movements e.g. red for gorn, green for trade-bait etc

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    suggestion - use colours for the movements e.g. red for gorn, green for trade-bait etc

    Going to be a lot of red on there DC

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    suggestion - use colours for the movements e.g. red for gorn, green for trade-bait etc

    Have a play around with it - but I am just going to use the OP as a definitive - 'this is the state of our list right now' piece.

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    THE CONTRACTS THREAD

    2015

    Clark, Trengove, Jamar, Garland, McKenzie, Howe, Jones, Hogan, Viney

    2014

    Frawley, Tapscott, McDonald, Blease, Byrnes, Barry

    2013

    Watts, Sylvia, Davey, Gysberts, Morton, Grimes, Taggert, Gawn, Martin, Tynan, Fitzpatrick

    2012

    OOC (in number order)

    Batram, Bennell, Petterd, Strauss, Cook, Jurrah, MacDonald, Jetta, Davis, Spencer, Bail, Sellar

    Rookies (upgrade or delist)

    Nicholson ®, Evans ®, Lawrence ®

    Rookies (1 year option)

    Couch, Magner, Sheahan, Williams

    RFA

    Moloney

    UFA

    Green, Rivers, Bate, and Dunn.

    Primary List Vacancies - 1

    Rookie List Vacancies - 0

    IN: Viney (ND26), Hogan (ND3), Barry (ND13), Byrnes (FA)

    OUT: Green, Moloney, Jurrah, Lawrence ®

    *On assumption that there will be 40 on the Primary List (with Veterans List being abolished) and 6 on the Rookie List.

    **On assumption Hogan is not one of the 40 for 2013.

    Updated and altered to reflect the state of the list rather than simply 'who is OOC.'

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    Next year 2013 with be very interesting. If Davey, Morton and Gysberts are still on the list they are the only ones that would be a chance of being delisted. Watts, Sylvia, Gawn, Taggert, Tynan, Fitzpatrick and Grimes are unlikely to delisted. I believe Sylvia will a restricted FA but from all reports he is not likely to leave the MFC.

    Should Morton or Gysberts be traded this year as expected there are few options available to the Club to delist a minimum of 3 players as required by the AFL. Players like Sellar, Bartram and Strauss could agree to one year only contracts, The first two might but I doubt Strauss would.

    List management next year could be very interesting.

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    Interestingly, when Hardwick culled the tigers at the end of '09 he made 12 changes all up. http://news.theage.c...91030-hoxy.html

    They shed more than 1100 games' experience.

    'changing the culture, to a new one'...

    Blight did it @ the crows... I don't know how many..

    We need to change the failing ways of more than 15 + years...

    a cleanout is a must.

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    We have 1 list vacancy as it stands now. Hogan will not be apart of the 40 for 2013. Choose your deletions/re-signings but remember that we may pick up a couple senior bodies before the draft, may upgrade Nicholson, and may get a comp pick.

    IN: ND4, ND21, ND48, ND49 (comp pick), ND70, PSD3, Player Traded In (may take ND pick), Delisted FA

    That's another 7 spots to open up. Martin, Gysberts, and Morton may be traded but they all are contracted for 2013.

    OOC

    Batram, Bennell, Petterd, Strauss, Cook, MacDonald, Jetta, Davis, Spencer, Bail, Sellar

    UFA

    Rivers, Bate, and Dunn.

    They are those that I think will go but not my preference - I would prefer to let Dunn go and keep Davis.

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    I think that we may only take Pick 4, Viney and Pick 48ish from the draft in terms of kids (or anyone if we use Delisted FA more than pick up state league players).

    With one vacancy on the list at the minute we would have a preference similar to this in terms of who we would want to keep compared to who we would want to bring in.

    OUT

    1. Bennell

    2. Petterd

    3. Cook

    4. MacDonald

    5. Bate

    6. Martin (likely to be traded)

    7. Rivers (likely to go through FA)

    8. Sellar

    9. Dunn

    10. Batram (possible rookie-ing?)

    11. Gysberts (possible trade)

    12. Spencer

    13. Strauss

    14. Bail

    IN (Viney, Byrnes, and Barry already counted, Hogan doesn't go on list yet)

    1. Pick 4

    2. Pick 48ish

    3. Dawes

    4. Pedersen

    5. Ray

    6. PSD3

    7. Nicholson

    8. Pick 68ish

    9. Banner

    10. Rodan

    You can put those 'outs' in any order you wish and when you get to the point that whatever we get in will be just as speculative as what we get in - you stop cutting people.

    I would probably stop around 7 more deletions from here (remember that Green, Moloney, Jurrah, and the vacancy from the abolishment of the VL are already counted). That would mean 10 names gone and 11 new players on the primary list with Hogan waiting in the wings.

    That's quite a change...

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    I think that we may only take Pick 4, Viney and Pick 48ish from the draft in terms of kids (or anyone if we use Delisted FA more than pick up state league players).

    With one vacancy on the list at the minute we would have a preference similar to this in terms of who we would want to keep compared to who we would want to bring in.

    OUT

    1. Bennell

    2. Petterd

    3. Cook

    4. MacDonald

    5. Bate

    6. Martin (likely to be traded)

    7. Rivers (likely to go through FA)

    8. Sellar

    9. Dunn

    10. Batram (possible rookie-ing?)

    11. Gysberts (possible trade)

    12. Spencer

    13. Strauss

    14. Bail

    IN (Viney, Byrnes, and Barry already counted, Hogan doesn't go on list yet)

    1. Pick 4

    2. Pick 48ish

    3. Dawes

    4. Pedersen

    5. Ray

    6. PSD3

    7. Nicholson

    8. Pick 68ish

    9. Banner

    10. Rodan

    You can put those 'outs' in any order you wish and when you get to the point that whatever we get in will be just as speculative as what we get in - you stop cutting people.

    I would probably stop around 7 more deletions from here (remember that Green, Moloney, Jurrah, and the vacancy from the abolishment of the VL are already counted). That would mean 10 names gone and 11 new players on the primary list with Hogan waiting in the wings.

    That's quite a change...

    Just to clarify Evans and Nicholson had Iron Clad contracts committing to being upgraded signed prior to Neelds arrival this happen this year. Therefore regardless they both will be elevated to the senior list. So you need to factor in 2 rookie upgrades to the senior list. I also think this is one factor why we were happy to take Hogan as we could keep one spot on the list open for one of our current players for one more year while still adding a player to commence with us the year after.

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    1. Pick 4

    2. Pick 48ish

    3. Dawes

    4. Pedersen

    5. Ray

    6. PSD3

    7. Nicholson

    8. Pick 68ish

    9. Banner

    10. Rodan

    That's quite a change...

    Bringing in a bunch of poo to replace poo.

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    'changing the culture, to a new one'...

    Blight did it @ the crows... I don't know how many..

    We need to change the failing ways of more than 15 + years...

    a cleanout is a must.

    I have spoken to Neeld personally about this and his view was Hardwick saw Clarkson go through 'hell' by not culling when he first got to Hawthorn and therefore decided to go hard first year. Neeld said he could have done this first year but wanted to give players an opportunity. I think halfway through last year he was regretting that decision as he was let down badly by certain players and their level of commitment and ability.

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    Bringing in a bunch of poo to replace poo.

    Pick 4 is poo? You already know who it is and you have seen them play in red and blue on the G?

    I'm looking forward to round one. But I'll need to spend a bit of time learning the new numbers before I go to the game. Otherwise I'll have to ask 'who's that?' for every second kick.

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    Pick 4 is poo? You already know who it is and you have seen them play in red and blue on the G?

    I'm looking forward to round one. But I'll need to spend a bit of time learning the new numbers before I go to the game. Otherwise I'll have to ask 'who's that?' for every second kick.

    Further to that Jack Viney is Poo is he? Clarke was certainly poo last year so we can assume Dawes will be too right?

    Great logic...What is amazing is how quickly some people turn these threads to poo..

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    Bringing in a bunch of poo to replace poo.

    Pick 4, Dawes, Pedersen, Nicholson and Ray would be an improvement on those that leave the primary list.

    I don't agree with your sentiment at all.

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    THE CONTRACTS THREAD

    2016

    Dawes

    2015

    Clark, Trengove, Jamar, Garland, McKenzie, Howe, Jones, Hogan, Viney

    2014

    Frawley, Tapscott, McDonald, Blease, Byrnes, Barry

    2013

    Watts, Sylvia, Davey, Gysberts, Morton, Grimes, Taggert, Gawn, Martin, Tynan, Fitzpatrick

    2012

    OOC (in number order)

    Batram, Bennell, Petterd, Strauss, Cook, Jurrah, MacDonald, Jetta, Davis, Spencer, Bail, Sellar

    Rookies (upgrade or delist)

    Nicholson ®, Evans ®, Lawrence ®

    Rookies (1 year option)

    Couch, Magner, Sheahan, Williams

    RFA

    Moloney

    UFA

    Green, Rivers, Bate, and Dunn.

    Primary List Vacancies - 0

    Rookie List Vacancies - 0

    IN: Viney (ND26), Hogan, Barry, Byrnes (FA), Dawes

    ND4, ND58ish, ND65ish

    PSD3

    OUT: Green, Moloney, Jurrah, Lawrence ®

    *On assumption that there will be 40 on the Primary List (with Veterans List being abolished) and 6 on the Rookie List.

    **On assumption Hogan is not one of the 40 for 2013.

    Updated.

    We are officially out of free list spots. Deletions to come for the potential use of ND4, ND58, ND64, PSD3, and any Delisted FA.

    Edited by rpfc

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