Patrick Dangerfield ... Let's get him!

[Pennant St Dee 13,118]

Not 100% sure but think it was Mark Robinson on SEN today who said he'd heard rumours a Melbourne based club was looking at making an offer to Dangerfield at seasons end.

Robbo did not name the club but said he contacted the club and asked them, they confirmed his rumour and their interest but advised they were told he is likely to stay.

Could be true or could be a club trying to put something to bed until seasons end

[DEELIRIOUS 156]

Interesting. We will have money, we will have the compo picks, will HE want to come to us?

[Hardnut 327]

Anyone see Adelaide beat Sydney tonight - why would PD want to come to MFC?

[Chook 15,012]

Anyone see Adelaide beat Sydney tonight - why would PD want to come to MFC?

Money and the chance to hook back up with Neil Craig and Todd Viney?

[Lord Travis 10,698]

I was saying on here we should be trying to get him across. He is literally the perfect footballer to fill our greatest needs. Grunt at contests, pace for breaking from stoppages and spreading into space, and goal kicking ability from both midfield and can rest/be thrown forward. Give up first rounder picks, get him across and pop him straight into the leadership group. Kid leads by example. Injecting him and Viney directly into the midfield gives us more grunt, pace, and skill. It would be a perfect way to develop a stalling midfield.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Not 100% sure but think it was Mark Robinson on SEN today who said he'd heard rumours a Melbourne based club was looking at making an offer to Dangerfield at seasons end.

Robbo did not name the club but said he contacted the club and asked them, they confirmed his rumour and their interest but advised they were told he is likely to stay.

Could be true or could be a club trying to put something to bed until seasons end

Probably James Hird talking.

[Adam The God 30,134]

Payback for Scott Thompson

And Bassett, and Jarman.

[Adam The God 30,134]

What's our salary cap situation at the end of this year? Davey's big contract will have a year to run. Clark is on a biggie. Would we have enough space to offer him big money and not jeopardise any other important contracts in the next few years?

[GRUN DEE 69]

What's our salary cap situation at the end of this year? Davey's big contract will have a year to run. Clark is on a biggie. Would we have enough space to offer him big money and not jeopardise any other important contracts in the next few years?

Yes. We should have plenty of cap space. Not only for one but two gems I would think. There cant be too many on good brass at Melbourne. If there is then they need too go!!!

Jamar will be fielding good offers. Let him go if thats the case. He aint worth a pinch of salt.

Bate gone! Green?? Moloney??

[Buffalo 203]

Let's not limit ourselves to Dangerfield - both Harley Bennell and Josh Caddy haven't signed, and Harley is an absolute gun!!! We may have an advantage with his brother playing for us...

[Jack Attack 3]

Another potential midfielder to look at , that would come cheap , is Koby Stevens , from west coast , strong bodied , powerful , not getting a look in at west coast , may want to come home and has been starring in the WAFL had 38 possessions on the weekend !

[Pennant St Dee 13,118]

Let's not limit ourselves to Dangerfield - both Harley Bennell and Josh Caddy haven't signed, and Harley is an absolute gun!!! We may have an advantage with his brother playing for us...

It's not his brother its his cousin, and he is very homesick, West Coast and Freo will make very big plays for him

[hardtack 10,517]

It's not his brother its his cousin, and he is very homesick, West Coast and Freo will make very big plays for him

So was Clark - nothing ventured, nothing gained. Would love to see us get Bennell.

[Dee1987 277]

what about dion prestia or Josh Caddy?

[H_T 3,043]

"Getting him" is one thing, convincing him is another....

[DEELIRIOUS 156]

"Getting him" is one thing, convincing him is another....

Couldn't have said it any better. It's so true. Unless we win multiple games, and convincingly then we won't be able to pick these sorts of players up I feel

[MadAsHell 4,212]

If we're looking at trading then I reckon we could look at something like Moloney and our 1st first roud compo pick for Dangerfield & McKay who's been mentioned on another thread as someone we might be looking at and then Sylvia, Petterd and our 2nd first round compo pick for Prestia and an agreement Gold Coast wont nominate Viney in the draft?

We get two quality mids with pace who can play inside and out and a versatile McKay who can play a tagging role in the midfield or play off half back allowing Grimes to play in the middle more.

All hypotheticals though until seasons end and we know where we sit with draft picks...

[Range Rover 1,935]

If we're looking at trading then I reckon we could look at something like Moloney and our 1st first roud compo pick for Dangerfield & McKay who's been mentioned on another thread as someone we might be looking at and then Sylvia, Petterd and our 2nd first round compo pick for Prestia and an agreement Gold Coast wont nominate Viney in the draft?

We get two quality mids with pace who can play inside and out and a versatile McKay who can play a tagging role in the midfield or play off half back allowing Grimes to play in the middle more.

All hypotheticals though until seasons end and we know where we sit with draft picks...

I like where your thinking is headed TD.

Dangerfield would be a massive coup for the club. I don't agree with Deelerious above that you have to be winning games to snare the Big Fish. Players have shown they are prepared to move to lower clubs if the financial packages are attractive AND if they can sense the club is serious about assembling a decent footy team.

If I were Neeld and Co and I'd be tabling a 5-year, multi-million dollar deal to Dangerfield, something in the region of $3.5-4m over 5. Offer him long-term job security (as we did with Clark) and tell him we're serious about building a premiership midfield and he's going to be the centerpiece of it.

As for the Crows, they're not far off an assault on the top four. Offer them our first pick in this year's draft (say pick 4 or 5) and Colin Sylvia. Eight seasons in and approaching 27 years old, I think we've seen what we're going to get with Colin. Let him play out the year in the seniors, have his two or three obligatory blinders against Port Adelaide and Richmond ... and move him on to a new club where he might be able to play in some finals before his career finishes.

I'm also a big fan of the hard running, super-fit Prestia (33 possessions yesterday) and would go hard at him as well. Not sure what his contract status is but perhaps we can shake him loose after his first two years with the Suns with our other first round compo pick.

We need to go hard and we need to be bold at this year's trade table. Inject Dangerfield, Prestia and Jack Viney into our midfield mix, develop our outside running 'silk' players and suddenly we're a whole different side. A harder, more committed football team that plays "Neeld Football" week-in and week-out.

Neeld Football. Someone should trademark that.

I wouldn't be surprised if Moloney is not at the club next year, either. Removing him from the LG was a huge vote of no-confidence by Neeld, whichever way you want to slice it. He'll walk to his third club at the end of the season for mine. I don't think we should be too upset about that. He's not an A-grade mid and has proven that time and time again against quality opposition.

Edited May 6, 2012 by Range Rover

[Hardnut 327]

Just what is Neeld football?

Why do we keep looking for the magical player who will single-handedly return us to dominance? (We have done this for 40 years!)

Time to look at ourselves and ask why we could not even win the two possible games (Brisbane and Richmond) before Round 12.

Time to look at how we trained pre-season and how we train now - where are the skills? Why don't the players know each other well enough to know where they will be on the field without looking? (Geelong can do it.)

Yes, there are players who should go, but at the moment work with what we have got - isn't that what coaching is all about!?

Put simply, our performance so far this year is dismal and there are no excuses - time for everyone to step up!

[Sir Why You Little 36,987]

Just what is Neeld football?

Why do we keep looking for the magical player who will single-handedly return us to dominance? (We have done this for 40 years!)

Time to look at ourselves and ask why we could not even win the two possible games (Brisbane and Richmond) before Round 12.

Time to look at how we trained pre-season and how we train now - where are the skills? Why don't the players know each other well enough to know where they will be on the field without looking? (Geelong can do it.)

Yes, there are players who should go, but at the moment work with what we have got - isn't that what coaching is all about!?

Put simply, our performance so far this year is dismal and there are no excuses - time for everyone to step up!

Agree. The new coach and FD have been working full time together for 8 months now. We should be doing a lot better, no matter what the new gameplan is.

[Range Rover 1,935]

Just what is Neeld football?

Why do we keep looking for the magical player who will single-handedly return us to dominance? (We have done this for 40 years!)

Time to look at ourselves and ask why we could not even win the two possible games (Brisbane and Richmond) before Round 12.

Time to look at how we trained pre-season and how we train now - where are the skills? Why don't the players know each other well enough to know where they will be on the field without looking? (Geelong can do it.)

Yes, there are players who should go, but at the moment work with what we have got - isn't that what coaching is all about!?

Put simply, our performance so far this year is dismal and there are no excuses - time for everyone to step up!

Neeld Football ™ is a hard, accountable, no-frills brand that will stand up in finals. That's what it's about and we need the requisite group of players to carry out his instructions.

No single player will return us to dominance, but as Carlton have shown with Judd, the introduction of a top-tier elite midfielder can have a transformative effect on the rest of the list.

I agree with what you're saying but bottom line is we need an A-grade midfield if we're going to have any hope in this competition. And we need it now, not in 4 years time.We're averaging something like 100 less possessions per match than our opposition at the moment. That's the problem that needs to be fixed above all others.

Dangerfield to lead the way, Viney and Prestia into the middle. Suddenly Trengove, McKenzie and Jones have some quality to work alongside of and we're in business.

Edited May 6, 2012 by Range Rover

[Hardnut 327]

Neeld Football ™ is hard, accountable, no-frills brand that will stand up in finals. That's what it's about and we need the requisite group of players to carry out his instructions.

No single player will return us to dominance, but as Carlton have shown with Judd, the introduction of a top-tier elite midfielder can have a transformative effect on the rest of the list.

I agree with what you're saying but bottom line is we need an A-grade midfield if we're going to have any hope in this competition. And we need it now, not in 4 years time.We're averaging something like 100 less possessions per match than our opposition at the moment. That's the problem that needs to be fixed above all others.

Dangerfield to lead the way, Viney and Prestia into the middle. Suddenly Trengove, McKenzie and Jones have some quality to work alongside of and we're in business.

I like the humour in your TM RR!

You say you agree with me, (and I agree with your comment about a midfield), but it will not happen overnight - it will take a few years, and I would be wary of using Judd and Carlton as an example!

I see no evidence of Neeld Football working at MFC and IMO it is an out of date Magpie concept - look at the way West Coast, Adelaide, let alone Geelong, play!

We have a list that is predominantly an attacking group - yes, we need to be accountable, but in a new way that extends the successful Geelong model, not one that goes backwards to a failed model - success in modern football lies in innovation, not in copying others.

[Pennant St Dee 13,118]

Just what is Neeld football?

Why do we keep looking for the magical player who will single-handedly return us to dominance? (We have done this for 40 years!)

Time to look at ourselves and ask why we could not even win the two possible games (Brisbane and Richmond) before Round 12.

Time to look at how we trained pre-season and how we train now - where are the skills? Why don't the players know each other well enough to know where they will be on the field without looking? (Geelong can do it.)

Yes, there are players who should go, but at the moment work with what we have got - isn't that what coaching is all about!?

Put simply, our performance so far this year is dismal and there are no excuses - time for everyone to step up!

I understand somewhat of what your saying hardnut but Geelong have been doing it for a long time, 1999-2003 they were a basket case when a lot of their current playing group were new to the big league. They have been playing that gamestyle for 8 years now whilst we have been at ours for 8 months.

I do agree however that not one magical player will turn us around, I think we are 3 to 4 short of becoming a decent unit. Dangerfield will be expensive and he will be an immediate success along with Viney, but on the other hand maybe targetting two from the Suns and start being proactive and hitting up boys well in advance at GWS who will be out of contract at the end od 2013. On that note very impressed with Toby Green today

[H_T 3,043]

I like where your thinking is headed TD.

Dangerfield would be a massive coup for the club. I don't agree with Deelerious above that you have to be winning games to snare the Big Fish. Players have shown they are prepared to move to lower clubs if the financial packages are attractive AND if they can sense the club is serious about assembling a decent footy team.

If I were Neeld and Co and I'd be tabling a 5-year, multi-million dollar deal to Dangerfield, something in the region of $3.5-4m over 5. Offer him long-term job security (as we did with Clark) and tell him we're serious about building a premiership midfield and he's going to be the centerpiece of it.

As for the Crows, they're not far off an assault on the top four. Offer them our first pick in this year's draft (say pick 4 or 5) and Colin Sylvia. Eight seasons in and approaching 27 years old, I think we've seen what we're going to get with Colin. Let him play out the year in the seniors, have his two or three obligatory blinders against Port Adelaide and Richmond ... and move him on to a new club where he might be able to play in some finals before his career finishes.

I'm also a big fan of the hard running, super-fit Prestia (33 possessions yesterday) and would go hard at him as well. Not sure what his contract status is but perhaps we can shake him loose after his first two years with the Suns with our other first round compo pick.

We need to go hard and we need to be bold at this year's trade table. Inject Dangerfield, Prestia and Jack Viney into our midfield mix, develop our outside running 'silk' players and suddenly we're a whole different side. A harder, more committed football team that plays "Neeld Football" week-in and week-out.

Neeld Football. Someone should trademark that.

I wouldn't be surprised if Moloney is not at the club next year, either. Removing him from the LG was a huge vote of no-confidence by Neeld, whichever way you want to slice it. He'll walk to his third club at the end of the season for mine. I don't think we should be too upset about that. He's not an A-grade mid and has proven that time and time again against quality opposition.

Five marks and a gold star for initiative.

I like the targets, anyway.

[Carlos Danger 380]

I'm also a big fan of the hard running, super-fit Prestia (33 possessions yesterday) and would go hard at him as well. Not sure what his contract status is but perhaps we can shake him loose after his first two years with the Suns with our other first round compo pick.

Would love to get Prestia on the list. Makes up for size with tremendous workrate and ticker, also grew up a MFC supporter.

Edited May 6, 2012 by Deez Nutz