Rohan Bail

[jabberwocky 2,301]

Has done it tougher than most with family issues and injury. He has played a few nice games and I have a feeling there is a lot of improvement left in him. If you were judging our list solely on our first three games of the season they would be about 6 left of AFL standard.

We need players of his type to come on. Lets let him get a bit of rhythm into his game and see what he can do. I see him as a bloke that will step up as his role increases.

Edited May 3, 2012 by dandeeman

[Guest José Mourinho]

His only glaring weakness is lack of penetration on his kicking, and there are plenty of very good players that you can say that about.

Looking forward to seeing him go from strength to strength.

[The Chazz 4,077]

His only glaring weakness is lack of penetration on his kicking, and there are plenty of very good players that you can say that about.

Looking forward to seeing him go from strength to strength.

His 48m pass to Petterd in the last seconds of the Collingwood game 2 years back didn't appear to lack penetration.

I hope Rohan can maintain his position in the team for the next few weeks. He had an improved showing on Saturday night (not on his own there), but to be averaging 12 possessions YTD is far from acceptable from one of our (potential) midfielders (he's not on his own there either). As I have previously posted, the sooner Blease, Strauss, Gysberts, et al start snapping at his heels, he would want to drastically improve his output otherwise a lengthy stint at Casey is on the cards.

[Guest José Mourinho]

His 48m pass to Petterd in the last seconds of the Collingwood game 2 years back didn't appear to lack penetration.

I hope Rohan can maintain his position in the team for the next few weeks. He had an improved showing on Saturday night (not on his own there), but to be averaging 12 possessions YTD is far from acceptable from one of our (potential) midfielders (he's not on his own there either). As I have previously posted, the sooner Blease, Strauss, Gysberts, et al start snapping at his heels, he would want to drastically improve his output otherwise a lengthy stint at Casey is on the cards.

I remember it well, and it did.

It really did.

[Nascent 8,652]

I am totally blown away by the amount of positive talk regading RB this year. I'm not trying to kick the bloke in the guts, but am I the only one who beleives his form to date has been poor?

I love his attitude, and his running ability, and he's not a bad looking bloke, but what are we judging here, a popularity contest or what we see on the footy field?

I was surprised he hasn't been subbed out of a few games to be honest. I rate him as a player and believe he'll be a solid best 22 player for us in years to come, but a few of his games so far have been pretty poor. A number of times he hangs onto the ball for too long and gets caught rather than taking the 1st option. My other main gripe has been him giving away unnecessary free kicks, particularly through poor tackling attempts. Kid can play though and I’m not calling for him to be dropped at this stage.

[Dr. Mubutu 778]

I remember it well, and it did.

It really did.

If only it had an extra 5m on it........

[Dr. Mubutu 778]

The thing that amazed me most from that article is that coming in to this season he'd only played 18 senior games. Feels like he's been around more than that and in my mind I'd always treated him like a 50 gamer, but really in terms of his footy career he's still just an apprentice.

Yep, I agree. Just seems to be very disciplined (for mine, anyway). Wouldn't be surprised if he's found a niche as a defensive small forward.......

[The Chazz 4,077]

I remember it well, and it did.

It really did.

As a pass it did not.

As a shot at goal, it did.

He wasn't having a shot at goal, and it was in the last sconds of the match (ie tired legs).

[ox_5 163]

As a pass it did not.

As a shot at goal, it did.

He wasn't having a shot at goal, and it was in the last sconds of the match (ie tired legs).

From memory it was off his left boot too?

[olisik 4,060]

Looking forward to see how he goes this week. Hope to see a goal or 2 from the fella

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,653]

His 48m pass to Petterd in the last seconds of the Collingwood game 2 years back didn't appear to lack penetration.

I hope Rohan can maintain his position in the team for the next few weeks. He had an improved showing on Saturday night (not on his own there), but to be averaging 12 possessions YTD is far from acceptable from one of our (potential) midfielders (he's not on his own there either). As I have previously posted, the sooner Blease, Strauss, Gysberts, et al start snapping at his heels, he would want to drastically improve his output otherwise a lengthy stint at Casey is on the cards.

He might be a 'potential midfielder', but he's not playing there yet. So 12 possessions in a forward line that doesn't get the ball delivered to them as often as we'd like is not a bad effort.

[The Chazz 4,077]

He might be a 'potential midfielder', but he's not playing there yet. So 12 possessions in a forward line that doesn't get the ball delivered to them as often as we'd like is not a bad effort.

FFS La Dee. He kicked 2 goals agaisnt the Saints, prior to that he had kicked 1 goal in 4 games and he has had 2 Goal Assists for the season. He has given away 10 free kicks, but only got 3 in return.

What part of Rohan Bail's game this season has been satisfactory, especially from a stats point of view? Normally I'm not too fussed what sort of picture stats paint, but this lot of figures confirmed that my observations of his game this year has been terrible.

I really do hope he improves and he plays some very good footy in the coming games, otherwise blokes like Blease and Petterd will be pushing him out (hopefully they find form good enough to warrant that).

I appreciate, and have acknowledged that he is not on his own, but this is the Ro Bail thread.

[The Chazz 4,077]

Can anyone that saw the Casey game report on how Bail went this morning please?

[Outside fifty 967]

Non existant game today. I like Ro Bail but his form has been very disappointing this year. Maybe time for a spell at Casey and see how Nicholson or Blease a go.

[titan_uranus 24,654]

The negative comments towards Bail in this thread are unwarranted, unfounded, and pretty much just stupid.

That is all I have to say about this.

[The Chazz 4,077]

The negative comments towards Bail in this thread are unwarranted, unfounded, and pretty much just stupid.

That is all I have to say about this.

Why? What is unwarranted, unfounded and stupid? I have provided stats for season 2012, what have you provided? Jack shite.

[The Chazz 4,077]

7 possessions today Titan. Add that to his average of 12 for the season. 21 Dream Team points, which before today was averaging 50.

Casey calling.

[Nasher 33,607]

Definitely bombed today after an excellent game last week. I don't know what 'normal' is for him at the moment.

[titan_uranus 24,654]

Why? What is unwarranted, unfounded and stupid? I have provided stats for season 2012, what have you provided? Jack shite.

7 possessions today Titan. Add that to his average of 12 for the season. 21 Dream Team points, which before today was averaging 50.

Casey calling.

You're dropping him based on one game. Last week he was great. I've felt he's had an impact in every game he's played this year except this week. He's been chasing, tackling, running, manning up, linking up in important plays, and giving an effort where others weren't.

He had a bad one today, I'm not denying that. But that does not mean he should make way straight away. Others should go first (Dunn, Bate, Sellar, Sylvia).

[Guest José Mourinho]

Definitely bombed today after an excellent game last week. I don't know what 'normal' is for him at the moment.

I think he's trying to find that out too.

He's a very good complementary player, Bail.

I think his performance improves with the team, but he really depends on other players getting their roles right.

When they do, he can get into position to link play very well.

When it breaks down he has difficulty imposing himself on the contest.

[DeeSpencer 24,792]

What I don't get is that he's spending so much of games playing deep forward and no where near the ball when he has the attributes to move into the middle or half back.

Yes kicking is a bit shonky, but he's a step above Bartram. The other area I'd like to see him work on is giving away soft free kicks. He's an aggressive tackler but that doesn't mean tackling high or in the back.

The simple thing might be that he just doesn't have to the tricks to play as a forward in this forward line. Which is fair enough because not many do.

I'd drop him this week to give Petterd/Couch/Bennell a turn at either half forward/mid or back, but I'd hope for a quick bounce back in VFL form so Tapscott and Sylvia are on edge. No doubt Bail is a better game runner than those 2.

Edited May 6, 2012 by the master

[rhaz 342]

You're dropping him based on one game. Last week he was great. I've felt he's had an impact in every game he's played this year except this week. He's been chasing, tackling, running, manning up, linking up in important plays, and giving an effort where others weren't.

and he was crap every week before the saints game

[Micky Dee 11]

"The other area I'd like to see him work on is giving away soft free kicks. He's an aggressive tackler but that doesn't mean tackling high or in the back."

I've noticed quite a few times that his tackling awareness has been a bit out. He often tackles someone when the ball is long gone and gives away a free.

[jabberwocky 2,301]

I think he's trying to find that out too.

He's a very good complementary player, Bail.

I think his performance improves with the team, but he really depends on other players getting their roles right.

When they do, he can get into position to link play very well.

When it breaks down he has difficulty imposing himself on the contest.

Love your work Jose.

Keep posting in this fashion, most of your footy obs are first class, don't get sucked down by some other posters.

With Bail and a few others it will also depend on what defensive roles they have been set, even so I think Bail needs to go both ways and he has the tank to do it.

[rpfc 28,052]

Stunk yesterday but we persevere...

Good the week before.